Ubisoft Details New Anti-Piracy Plan

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Not Gonna Get Me

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A. Everybody has access to the internet;
This argument annoys me. Every time I see it I'm thinking "Right, so driving is unfair now because some people don't have a car?".

Its a stupid argument. If you don't have internet, bully for you.

The whole downtime arguments are fine though, those aren't the fault of the "USER".

At least people who don't have cars have alternatives, busses, taxies etc. What do gamers have now? No internet = no game.
 

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Fighting against pirates, fine. But storing saved data on a remote server? That's just stupid. Then there's also the fact that not all gaming rigs have an internet connection, as some people want to protect their computer that way from viruses, so authenticating a game online is, once again, a bad idea.

Nice try, fellas. Better luck next time?
you're saying any time a computer is online its under threat of a virus? this is a good idea, and if you have access to internet (which you do) then don't complain for other people.
There's always a chance someone will get in hitching a ride on an automatic update or for shits and giggles. And why shouldn't I complain for other people?
sorry four sounding mean heh. I don't see a valid reason to dislike the system if someone uses Steam a lot, they're almost the same. And just saying something negative even if you secretly like it makes you sound like a hater. Not you specifically though, sorry about that.
 

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Not Gonna Get Me said:
At least people who don't have cars have alternatives, busses, taxies etc. What do gamers have now? No internet = no game.
Well they have the option of piracy, and I assume many will take it. Ubisoft has made the mistake of thinking that just because most gamers have internet connections that they have access to an internet connection all the time. Even ignoring issues like server/ISP downtime, the fact is that there are a lot of situations where people want to play games because they don't have access to the internet, or are in a place where there is no internet connection.

So Ubisoft basically thinks the solution to piracy is reducing the number of legitimate options available to consumers...
 

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I am in the Beta and think this system works well.

I guess if you have an issue having a 24/7 internet connection then you are SOL. You are also in the minority, so umm you dont count 8)

I like it.
 

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Not sure if anyone mentioned this but what happens when the server gets full does that make a single player game worthless?
 

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Douk said:
Sev said:
Douk said:
Sev said:
Fighting against pirates, fine. But storing saved data on a remote server? That's just stupid. Then there's also the fact that not all gaming rigs have an internet connection, as some people want to protect their computer that way from viruses, so authenticating a game online is, once again, a bad idea.

Nice try, fellas. Better luck next time?
you're saying any time a computer is online its under threat of a virus? this is a good idea, and if you have access to internet (which you do) then don't complain for other people.
There's always a chance someone will get in hitching a ride on an automatic update or for shits and giggles. And why shouldn't I complain for other people?
sorry four sounding mean heh. I don't see a valid reason to dislike the system if someone uses Steam a lot, they're almost the same. And just saying something negative even if you secretly like it makes you sound like a hater. Not you specifically though, sorry about that.
'T is alright. Just that most steam games can be purchased with a hard copy. Don't know about the recent games but all my steam games I can install and play even without it. So I wouldn't need an internet connection. And here they go and make it a requirement, whilst the internet is subjective to a lot like downtime, lag, hacking and more. ^^
 

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sorry four sounding mean heh. I don't see a valid reason to dislike the system if someone uses Steam a lot, they're almost the same.
A. Steam allows you to play offline;
B. Steam doesn't use a save system that's based on foreign servers. When you save a game, that save is on your damn computer.
 

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I'll be blunt.

[HEADING=1]I WILL PIRATE ANY GAME THAT HAS THIS FEATURE.[/HEADING]
Agreed. There is no way in hell I'm using another "service" that requires me to be signed in to an online service to play single player games.

Steam, Ok- no online saves, works ok etc.
GFWL, Pushing it.
Now this shit? this can FUCK. RIGHT. OFF.
 

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And it was going so well...

Ubisoft, you had a great idea there. Get rid of the bad DRM, introduce reasonable stuff. And then, you need an internet connection to play? Meaning that Server problems anywhere along the line, and suddenly the single player game is unplayable. I use my Laptop in places without internet, and my connection occasionally goes down, and this would be a huge pain. Thanks Ubisoft for trying to improve things, and coming up with new ideas. You failed, go and come up with a better one.

Actually, really, why is this a problem? Steam is all the anti piracy you need. If a person is willing to go to the lengths required to pirate a non-DRM Steam version, then there going to pirate it. It's just going to happen, and you are not going to stop it. The best way to prevent piracy is to not use DRM that encourages people to pirate the game. I mean seriously, I'm used to companies making dick moves towards there consumer, but no where else in the world have I seen companies go to such great lengths to UNDENIABLY reduce their own sales.
 

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Sebenko said:
dududf said:
I'll be blunt.

[HEADING=1]I WILL PIRATE ANY GAME THAT HAS THIS FEATURE.[/HEADING]
Agreed. There is no way in hell I'm using another "service" that requires me to be signed in to an online service to play single player games.

Steam, Ok- no online saves, works ok etc.
GFWL, Pushing it.
Now this shit? this can FUCK. RIGHT. OFF.
I just realized I should probably put "Feature" in brackets...
 

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AndyFromMonday said:
Douk said:
sorry four sounding mean heh. I don't see a valid reason to dislike the system if someone uses Steam a lot, they're almost the same.
A. Steam allows you to play offline;
B. Steam doesn't use a save system that's based on foreign servers. When you save a game, that save is on your damn computer.
After more though I realized I was wrong haha. hope nobody else quotes me on this.
 

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Sounds like an annoyance waiting to happen. They are correct that most gamers are dedicated to the internet. However, if I am playing a single player game, the great advantage was always... ALWAYS... that if my internet service cut out, I could still play my game. Now, if the internet cuts out... I cannot play my internet games, and I cannot plan my single player games.

*shrug*

I am not impressed.
 

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dogstile said:
AndyFromMonday said:
A. Everybody has access to the internet;
This argument annoys me. Every time I see it I'm thinking "Right, so driving is unfair now because some people don't have a car?".

Its a stupid argument. If you don't have internet, bully for you.

The whole downtime arguments are fine though, those aren't the fault of the "USER".
As far as I'm concerned, it's not a stupid argument. If I'm in somewhere where the internet is patchy and can't get a connection, I can't play games, despite the fact that I bought them and they don't require any online interaction whatsoever. Same goes if someone's going through a particularly messy switch of ISPs or can't pay their internet bills, as is pretty common nowadays.

In summary, the driving being unfair thing isn't a fair analogy. I can look through my PC library and find loads of stuff I can play offline. Suddenly breaking from that and making it so that I have to hotfoot around when I'm taking a break to look for a connection in order to play something I payed 40 fucking quid for takes the cake.

Just because I can't drive doesn't mean I can't walk on the pavement.
 

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Another system that will punish legitimate users, while probably leaving pirates unscathed
 

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Why is everyone complain about 'what if the servers go down" I don't think its that big of a deal if you can't play for a few hours.
 

Adzma

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Ah good luck to you Ubisoft. It will fail miserably, but it might work for a couple of days.
 

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It might be able to fly, were the saved games data *synchronized* instead of stored ONLY on the hosted servers. That'd render the level of punishment for offline gaming pretty minor (there's still a local copy), but open up the level of annoyance at letting loose the account code YOU bought to the wild internet effectively making your saved games unplayable: every saved game you have is available to every other yob you're sharing an account with with the opportunity to loot your stuff, foul your stats, kill your character, give the avatar funny make-up, or whatever stupid stuff they feel like doing that the game engine allows.
 

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Desert Tiger said:
dogstile said:
AndyFromMonday said:
A. Everybody has access to the internet;
This argument annoys me. Every time I see it I'm thinking "Right, so driving is unfair now because some people don't have a car?".

Its a stupid argument. If you don't have internet, bully for you.

The whole downtime arguments are fine though, those aren't the fault of the "USER".
something I payed 40 fucking quid for takes the cake.
Fine, don't pay for it. Buy something you can play. I don't complain when I can't play something when i know i couldn't play it in the first place.

Not Gonna Get Me said:
At least people who don't have cars have alternatives, busses, taxies etc. What do gamers have now? No internet = no game.
Buy a different game then. That's your alternative, right there. Being a gamer means you have TONNES of different games to try out.

AndyFromMonday said:
dogstile said:
AndyFromMonday said:
A. Everybody has access to the internet;
This argument annoys me. Every time I see it I'm thinking "Right, so driving is unfair now because some people don't have a car?".

Its a stupid argument. If you don't have internet, bully for you.

The whole downtime arguments are fine though, those aren't the fault of the "USER".
It's more like "In order to drive a car, you will now need to have a radio installed and at all times on. If it ever goes off, if the batteries ever run out of power then the car will stop. Those who do not have a radio installed will not be able to use their car"

By the way, your analogy doesn't make sense. How will letting people with no internet or limited access to internet play the game affect those who have internet? It won't affect them at all; your analogy fails.
What I mean is, If you don't have internet or patchy internet, then its not for you, then try a different developer. Its not like ubisoft is the only developer out there.
 

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Or how about I crack the game so I can save whenever I dam well please?
I've just had half a year of my net cutting out randomly