Ubisoft DRM Authentication Servers Go Down

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lacktheknack

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Marq said:
Hubilub said:
First the PS3, now the PC.
Not at all! My pirated version works perfectly!
And thus lies the heinous irony, sitting upon the head of Ubisoft like a monstrous toupee made of yarn.

(No, I don't know where that came from.)
 

commasplice

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SenseOfTumour said:
New point, new post...

People keep knocking Steam but once installed, you pretty much can set it to offline and it'll never connect again and you'll have full access to all your games.

On top of that, you get things like 'Defense Grid' the great tower defense game, recently self patched itself for me, in doing so adding support for future DLC. Oh great, another way to try to sell me stuff. Except in doing so they've added extra functions and 4 free levels, months after the game was done released and sold. Portal also has been getting upgraded and I think these stories might have taken longer to break if it hadn't been for the simplicity of upgrades Steam offers.

Ok, Portal can be called a simple marketing ploy that wasn't asked for, but I think Defense Grid and the still constant support of games like Team Fortress 2 are a fine example of good coming from Steam, and things many people would have missed if they are like me and have a few dozen games and had to visit nearly 50 sites a month to see if there was anything new that needed manually downloading and installing.

Also, Steam (from my viewpoint at least) is a great outlet for indie games, and as sales have shown, it's better to get 50,000 sales at $5 than maybe 2,000 at $20, especially when the overheads are so low, in terms of no production costs, shipping etc.

I don't know if I'm alone, but I'm a sucker for the bundle packs, when you see say 7 indie games for £10, it's almost too cheap to say no even if you haven't played any of them.
Eh, you make some good points, but A: I find it annoying that Steam even has to start up for me to run a completely different program (back when I first got The Orange Box, it'd slow my computer down som'n fierce before letting me play, but I've since reformatted, so maybe it'll be a little nicer to me) and B: a lot of the games are priced around the same as their physical counterparts on other systems, which is a huuuuge turn off for me. I don't like paying the same price to lease that other pay to own. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to hate on Steam or anything. I own it, I've used it, I don't hate it; I just wish some things were different.
 
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I (and probably everyone else who has done work on Internet based applications) knew this was gonna happen. I just didn't know it would happen this quickly.

It's abundantly clear Ubisoft doesn't have adequate disaster recovery plan in place (I would've bet good money on this)...10 hours into a server crash, and they don't have a workaround? Unacceptable at any company I've ever worked with. People would've been fired.

It's also abundantly clear Ubisoft had no idea about the volume of traffic their servers would expect. The lack of planning is unbelievable. I'm 100% sure they had VERY accurate sales forecasts based on pre-orders, and they STILL didn't get it right. WTF?

Amateur hour (which was a given).

So anyone have a crack yet?
 

DonTsetsi

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I think this is the best thing that could have happened! Now even the average consumer will learn of this horrendous DRM system. Hopefully that will increase the player's impact on Ubisoft's policies.
 

SenseOfTumour

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commasplice said:
Eh, you make some good points, but A: I find it annoying that Steam even has to start up for me to run a completely different program (back when I first got The Orange Box, it'd slow my computer down som'n fierce before letting me play, but I've since reformatted, so maybe it'll be a little nicer to me) and B: a lot of the games are priced around the same as their physical counterparts on other systems, which is a huuuuge turn off for me. I don't like paying the same price to lease that other pay to own. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to hate on Steam or anything. I own it, I've used it, I don't hate it; I just wish some things were different.
I can't say I've noticed any real performance hit from having Steam running, its fairly small and inoffensive really, but that's in my opinion. However I'm in agreement on your second point, but I tend to mainly buy games from the midweek and weekend sales, and the xmas and annual sales, where it's at least 50% and more likely to be be 75-90% off. It's just a case of being a savvy customer, shopping around and not buying from Steam if it's cheaper elsewhere :D
 

CopperBoom

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commasplice said:
CopperBoom said:
Lukeje said:
May I be the first to call `sabotage'? This all seems a little too convenient...
First thing I thought, though it really was bound to happen naturally at some point.
Gamers steal though, what can be done to fight that?
Correction: people steal.
That is true. Still the question of how can companies combat human nature of "if you can, do" in terms of piracy.
 

zamble

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Hubilub said:
First the PS3, now the PC.

Now we just have to wait for every 360 in the world to stop working and the circle is complete!

...oh wait.
No no no, when 360 stops working, it doesn't complete a cricle, just 3/4 of it become red... hence it doesn't make 360=circle...

Bad joke, isn't it?
 

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It does beg the question that what are you actually buying when you purchase a game these days? I remember once upon a time that when you bought a game it meant you could actually play it when and where you wanted.
 

commasplice

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Oh, hey, shitstorm going down on the Ubisoft forums.
Yoom21 said:
In amazon AC2 is lower than "Chuzzle" by pop cap games. Ubisof, I think you just ****ed yourself up.

no. 81 in the bestsellers for one of the most anticipated games of the year. Wonderful.
Kandid- said:
Anyone who buys your games with this online "service" is a lab rat, testing an incomplete, hopeless system.

You WILL succumb and remove it. Resistance is futile.
Throwaway85 said:
Congratulations Ubisoft. You've just told all of your customers that if they want a working version of the game, they should pirate it. If they want one crippled by retarded DRM that everyone hates and was predicted to fail, then buy it from you.

You make it so easy to be an honest PC Gamer. I mean, really. At the end of the day, I just want a product that works. If that means ripping you off to get a superior product, I'm willing to do so. I'm even eager to do so in light of the contempt with which you treat your customers.

You should see if you can hire some of those pirates. They know how to put out a better product than you.
I'm honestly interested to know whether Ubisoft is going to try and play this off as no big deal or if they're going to throw someone under the bus and stage a public execution. I'm hoping on the latter just because I know that that guy is going to end up getting some of the most hilarious hate mail in the world and I'm hoping he'll have the stones to post it on the internet.

Edit: My favorite so far:
ErodeTheSoul said:
ms-kleaneasy said:
Like I said, we're trying to get to the bottom of it, we're as much at a loss as you guys right now I'm afraid
And that would be the reason why (or at least one of the many reasons why) this system is ridiculous. You don't know what's going on? Then maybe you shouldn't have made the ability to play the game rely on you so much.

The fact that it is not working -- that people are unable to play their SINGLE PLAYER games -- and you have no idea why is just a testament to how unfairly this system treats its actual customers.

Something Ubi doesn't seem to understand is that, in order for this DRM to be even close to the realm of okay, you needed to have 100% perfect, flawless, no issues connecting, never-ever-going-to-crash-or-go-down (thus-making-my-game-unplayable) implementation on your end; and you needed to be completely aware of every possible scenario involving the loss of ability to play.

Impossible? Quite. But your system of shackling my single player experience to your ability to keep things running on your end dictates that this is your responsibility. If you can't keep up with your end of the bargain, maybe it's time you let the customers have their single player games back.
 

Autofaux

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I somehow manage to avoid all these disasters. The Mass Effect DRM malarky, the PS3 glitch and, since I got ACII on PS3, this hilarious PR disaster. :)
 

Hiphophippo

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SavingPrincess said:
commasplice said:
Personally, I don't care how non-invasive Steam pretends to be. Sure, it's convenient to a certain degree, but the days when all I had to do was enter in a CD Key during install are still fresh in my mind. Why can't we revert back to that system? The DRM's just as effective and at least then, they can still pretend to be doing something about piracy, just like they're pretending right now.
I have never looked at Steam as a DRM system... I always saw it as a digital distribution system. It's interesting to me that people view it as a DRM system.
Actually, I feel exactly the same way. I understand that it is a DRM system on some level, but it's never been anything but convenient for me. The only real DRM I see in steam is the initial activation, but it seems to me that if I'm willing to buy a game online I don't have much room to ***** about having to authenticate it for 2 seconds when I download it.
 

Zer_

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Hiphophippo said:
SavingPrincess said:
commasplice said:
Personally, I don't care how non-invasive Steam pretends to be. Sure, it's convenient to a certain degree, but the days when all I had to do was enter in a CD Key during install are still fresh in my mind. Why can't we revert back to that system? The DRM's just as effective and at least then, they can still pretend to be doing something about piracy, just like they're pretending right now.
I have never looked at Steam as a DRM system... I always saw it as a digital distribution system. It's interesting to me that people view it as a DRM system.
Actually, I feel exactly the same way. I understand that it is a DRM system on some level, but it's never been anything but convenient for me. The only real DRM I see in steam is the initial activation, but it seems to me that if I'm willing to buy a game online I don't have much room to ***** about having to authenticate it for 2 seconds when I download it.
I also assume that if Valve at some point decides to take down their oldest games from the servers (you know, HL1, CS 1.6), then they'd allow customers to back them all up on CD's and DVD's. I doubt they'd ever do that though. Both HL1 and CS 1.6 are still quite popular. Thus far the master server is also blazing fast after so many years.
 

scotth266

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Smooth move, Ex-Lax.

I mean, I've defended the right for companies to put DRM in their games before, but this system is just something completely indefensible.
 

fix-the-spade

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Oh dear, looks like someone forgot to check the damn system actually works.

Or possibly, are authentication servers particularly vulnerable to DDoS attacks? I'd assume they were and I wouldn't put suc hthings past pissed off pc gamers.

Which Ubisoft game will be the most pirated of 2010?
 

Starke

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SenseOfTumour said:
There's a very simple fix, everyone who has paid for the game, go pirate it and play the unfettered version without the fuckery attached.

After all, are you not legally allowed to make one copy for your own backup needs?

I really can't see them actively hunting down their own customers for downloading their game after buying it.

Note I'm not advocating piracy (even tho I have done before), but once you've paid, I think you're entitled to do whatever you like to enjoy what you've paid for.

Breaking News, Assassin's 3 found to have anthrax inside the case of every retail copy, and the leaked version on torrent sites found to have a code for a free pizza at Dominos!

An Ubisoft rep made the statement 'The anthrax was to prevent shoplifters and the free pizza is to make those who would steal our product overweight and less attractive, hopefully leading to less pirates in the next generation.'

Industry leaders are unanimous in praising this form of DRM as an overwhelming success.
Bravo. That was actually pretty damn funny in an angry kinda way.
 

BlindMessiah94

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Woodsey said:
AHAHAHAHAAHAHA!

I knew it! I fucking knew it!

Idiots.

Petition here: http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?ew15dl94&1
Yeah because online petitions always accomplish something.

Ooh I know next let's "boycott" ubisoft.

OT: Actually, it serves them right for this drm nonsense, but at worst I see a drop in sales for a bit. If its not a recurring problem I'm sure people will forget it soon enough once the servers are back up. It's not like it was a worldwide blackout.