Ubisoft's DRM Servers Attacked Again

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brewbeard

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JinxyKatte said:
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Ubisoft has no one to blame but themselves. They introduced an idiotic DRM scheme, and now it's coming back to bite them. Maybe now they'll get the message...but I doubt it.
Next way to beat pirates will be not actually letting people get a hold of the game. Instead you will have to connect to a server and it will stream you the game while your playing it. I know it can be done cos I remember WoW doing that last time I played a trial of it.

I have all but given up on pc gaming now, although not for any specific reason. I got an xbox towards the end of last year and originally I did plan to keep playing both. But I guess a lack of money has caused me to cut back on buying as many games as I have in the past. But I have not bought a new pc game since getting my xbox (maybe champions online, although I have hardly played that) and seeing the way pc gaming is going im kinda glad I have stopped.

Oh FF13 is out today and I will be buying that. I cant wait.
There's at least one company looking at doing just that, though not for DRM. It's only a matter of time before they fail to get permission from game publishers to host titles on their servers and turn to whatever they can make fast cash off of, though.

You can read about it here:

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/98828-Cloud-Gaming-Could-Lower-the-Barrier-for-New-Gamers
 

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I've seen sheep before, but wow. Just wow. [http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/4721051016/m/1801034838]
Holy fuck... I read the first couple of comments and I can't believe what I'm reading: They'd rather keep the DRM! What the fucking KFVMNBJSDH!>@#>< W
One guy even said Ubisoft:1 Pirates:0 ...
They're 4chaners. But, watch Ubisoft turn around and claim popular support of their DRM solution because of a bunch of 4chaners trolling for the lulz.
 

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Caliostro said:
People bought this?


...Wow...
I don't know, I've got some disks kicking around with Starforce on them. Not everyone out there understands what DRMs are, or knows what the DRM for AssCreed2 requires. (To be fair to myself, I just didn't know about starforce when I bought them. Today, in light of the facts, I kinda don't care about that one.
 

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Do you think the guys over at Ubisoft Montreal are pulling their hair out over what's happening with their beloved game that they wasted a couple years of their lives working on? Or are they on board with this like the rest of the idiots at Ubisoft?
 
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GnomeThief said:
Do you think the guys over at Ubisoft Montreal are pulling their hair out over what's happening with their beloved game that they wasted a couple years of their lives working on? Or are they on board with this like the rest of the idiots at Ubisoft?
Meh, quite a few of them resent the decision made by the upper-ups in Paris but at least it's not like the game is a PC exclusive. Now they'd be pissed. But since it has been out on consoles for a while, money was made and people saw the game. It's important to remember how big Ubi is. There are the devs and then there are the publisher. It's two different entities. It's like the people saying "hur hur Ubi makes so many bad [something]z games". No they don't. They just publish them.

This whole thing could go three ways; they are hard-headed, try to fix it and keep status quo, they remove the DRM from the game, they just stop making game for the PC market or at the very least support them a lot less if assholes just hack their servers over DRM.

I have nothing against being genuinely pissed at this DRM (I would be if I was a PC gamer) but hacking servers and ruining everyone's fun is just being a douche.
 

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PhunkyPhazon said:
It's not piracy if you've bought it and just downloaded the crack.

Heck, if you ask me that isn't piracy at all.
I'm sure that'll hold up real well in court :p
kibayasu said:
Assuming attacks, and I have every reason to believe it is given the responses in this thread and across the internet, this is one of the most counter-intuitive protests ever.

So since this is most likely an attack on Ubisoft servers, who exactly should I be blaming here? You can go on and on and on about how "Ubi should have expected this" but that doesn't matter at all. It is not Ubisoft that is stopping people from playing their games.
Sure it is. If I give you a gun and you kill a man with it, I may not have pulled the trigger or even told you to fire (in Ubisoft's case, though, they more or less double dared the hackers), but I'm still at least partially responsible. Likewise, if Ubisoft didn't have such a hard-on for counter-piracy measures, they (most likely) wouldn't have pissed anyone off bad enough to hack them and there would be no single-player server to kill in the first place. Both parties are trying to teach the other a lesson and both parties are at fault--especially for thinking that the other will listen.
ShadowKirby said:
I have nothing against being genuinely pissed at this DRM (I would be if I was a PC gamer) but hacking servers and ruining everyone's fun is just being a douche.
Second. And for all of you out there saying, "I'm going to stick it to Ubisoft by torrenting the game," just don't. Your anger is justified, but considering how industry bigwigs tend to handle this kind of shit, they'll likely ignore the part that they played in this and use the increase in piracy to support their DRM crusade. Then again, if you actually listen to me and piracy goes down, they'll likely say it was because the DRM works so well... Hm...
 

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It's disgraceful that a single player game is vulnerable to an attack on servers not even under our control. It doesn't matter why the servers are down, the fact that they are down and stopping your customers from playing is Ubisoft's fault, and Ubisoft's responsibility. They should never have put us in this position.
 

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My thoughts: Ubisoft has successfully taken the worst aspects of an MMO and integrated them into a single-player game:

1) Downtime due to misjudging server capacity.
2) Griefers ruining it for everyone.

Congrats to Ubisoft for successfully bringing the buggy MMO experience to everyone!
 

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I can just see all the tech guys cussing out every higher up in the entire building for this. Only a minority are peeved but they forgot that that minority is a minority that honestly has nothing better to do they attack others to fill there own empty souls.
 

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Once the American script kiddies get access to Ubi's servers, I fully expect them to go critical within an hour of release. There are just too many pissed off people + people that are motivated by Ubisoft's confidence in its faulty DRM.

Heres a pretty simple equation for how I think this will play out:

(People that are exceedingly angry with Ubisoft + People motivated to prove Ubisoft wrong) / any overlap between stated groups = All hell breaks loose at Ubi server central.

PhunkyPhazon said:
Off Topic: I clicked that forum link given in the article. One thread in particular caught my eye. I've seen sheep before, but wow. Just wow. [http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/4721051016/m/1801034838] Anyone who honestly thinks that this DRM-scratch that, ANY DRM actually helps against piracy clearly doesn't know a single god damn thing about piracy.
The comments on that forum made my eyes bleed from the concentration of stupidity and terrible grammer.
 

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Maybe this was just a Ubisoft conspiracy to get bad publicity in the highly coveted realm of IT security...

http://www.sophos.com/blogs/gc/g/2010/03/08/plug-pulled-video-game-players-ubisoft-drm-servers-attacked/
 

Formica Archonis

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matrix3509 said:
PhunkyPhazon said:
Off Topic: I clicked that forum link given in the article. One thread in particular caught my eye. I've seen sheep before, but wow. Just wow. [http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/4721051016/m/1801034838] Anyone who honestly thinks that this DRM-scratch that, ANY DRM actually helps against piracy clearly doesn't know a single god damn thing about piracy.
The comments on that forum made my eyes bleed from the concentration of stupidity and terrible grammer.
There's a lot of trolling going on, though. Lot of low low post counts and, c'mon, someone posting as the Sonichu guy? Really?
 

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Formica Archonis said:
There's a lot of trolling going on, though. Lot of low low post counts and, c'mon, someone posting as the Sonichu guy? Really?
It's a 4chan raid, homeslice. Simple as that.
 

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I wanted to buy AC2 for PC, as I do not own an xbox 360 or a PS3.

I'm waiting till they ditch the constant internet connection requirement though.

By the looks of it, hopefully I won't have to wait long.
 

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Funkysandwich said:
I wanted to buy AC2 for PC, as I do not own an xbox 360 or a PS3.

I'm waiting till they ditch the constant internet connection requirement though.

By the looks of it, hopefully I won't have to wait long.
I'm rooting for you, buddy. Still, I can't shake the feeling that this is all going to drastically backfire somehow. I mean, crafting a newer, more restrictive method of DRM apparently seemed like a logical step from Ubisoft's warped perspective, so wouldn't it make sense for them to try and force a harsher method in response to all this?
 

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commasplice said:
Funkysandwich said:
I wanted to buy AC2 for PC, as I do not own an xbox 360 or a PS3.

I'm waiting till they ditch the constant internet connection requirement though.

By the looks of it, hopefully I won't have to wait long.
I'm rooting for you, buddy. Still, I can't shake the feeling that this is all going to drastically backfire somehow. I mean, crafting a newer, more restrictive method of DRM apparently seemed like a logical step from Ubisoft's warped perspective, so wouldn't it make sense for them to try and force a harsher method in response to all this?
Yeah, I suppose eventually when you go to buy a Ubisoft game they won't actually give you a copy at all.
 

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commasplice said:
I mean, crafting a newer, more restrictive method of DRM apparently seemed like a logical step from Ubisoft's warped perspective, so wouldn't it make sense for them to try and force a harsher method in response to all this?
WORSE? Good lord, it hardly seems possible. What's worse than selling a game it's impossible to legally play? They'd have to kill your DVD drive, root your box, take pictures of you with your webcam, make your fans spin backwards and your videocard vomit sparks, delete your porn and music, AND send a guy around every Tuesday to kick you in the nuts.
 

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The DRM was designed to protect sales in the first few weeks, how's that working for you UBI?



If I was designing a tool to attack this DRM I would simply copy the connection code from the game and build an app to send the same connection attempt as a legit game starting up (rather than a traditional DDOS type like teardrop or SYN attack).

Simply overwork the DRM server at a time it is under peak (lifetime) load.

There is no way for UBI to stop this form of attack as it simply uses the DRM servers own functionality (and lack of redundancy).
 

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Formica Archonis said:
WORSE? Good lord, it hardly seems possible. What's worse than selling a game it's impossible to legally play? They'd have to kill your DVD drive, root your box, take pictures of you with your webcam, make your fans spin backwards and your videocard vomit sparks, delete your porn and music, AND send a guy around every Tuesday to kick you in the nuts.
I hear that's the DRM they are going to use in Prince of Persia Forgotten Sands.
...wait... HOW DO YOU KNOW ABOUT MY PORN?!