Uk Goverment still wants 1984 possibly.

[kawligia]

Yep. At this rate, England will look like something out of "1984" or "V for Vendetta" within the next 10 years.

I think Obama wants to follow suit in the US.

 

[Overlord_Dave]

Be prepared for a rant people...

*ahem*

I couldn't care less whether someone monitors my internet traffic.

I couldn't care less if CCTV cameras watch my every move while I'm outside, in a public place where anybody could be watching me anyway.

Have any of you actually read 1984? Do realise how dystopian it is? Do you realise how RIDICULOUS it is saying "oooh noo wez gonna be all like 1984 and have telescreens and victory gin"? Actually think about what you're saying for a minute.

Anyway...

Sorry for the rant, but people need to be more realistic and less sensationalist. Sure, it's reducing our personal privacy slightly (even if you're not a criminal then you have no reason to mind), but if it improves security, then why not?

Any government's duty is to protect its citizens. If you can think of a way to do that without seeing what your citizens are doing, then you're either kidding yourself or stupid.

I quote this from the article (from the Home Secretary herself):

Advances in communications mean that there are ever more sophisticated ways to communicate and we need to ensure that we keep up with the technology being used by those who seek to do us harm.

It is essential that the police and other crime fighting agencies have the tools they need to do their job...

I couldn't a agree more.

EDIT: and another thing...

Is it just a load of crap to allow the government to control us in every way, your thoughts?

How is seeing what we're doing on the internet controlling what we're doing on the internet? Short answer is it isn't. Think about what you're saying.

Yep. At this rate, England will look like something out of "1984" or "V for Vendetta" within the next 10 years.

Do you realise how expensive a totalitarian government is to run? As long as this country needs capitalism to survive (which it most certainly does) then this will never EVER happen. Not in 10 years, not in 100 years.

 

[Evilmonkeysniper0182]

What we need is afew AK47 and the keys to the Houses of Parliment. Who's with me?

Wait no, we'll have to call it off, MI6 just pulled up outside.

NO im with you, they are all a bunch of over paid spunk bubbles, i swear to god we are all one step away from england falling in on itself

 

[Evilmonkeysniper0182]

Its because all the goverment are silver spoon tits, who grew up not knowing what a hard days work was, l mean come on, in place of they second home allowance, gordan brown wants to pay these people something like £150 A DAY to turn up to work.

If i got offered that just to turn up to work id be smiling all the way to the bank

I wouldnt pay the goverment 15p to wipe my bum

As anyone who read this might tell by know im not over keen on the goverment lol, esp a scotish guy running england, thats right people, england, not united kingdom, but england

 

[psychedelic2]

Lets all raise our Victory Gin and Cigarettes to Big Brother, more recently known as the Labour Government.

While i agree that the security of the nation is a good plan, it is almost becoming totallitarian in the way the government are spying on us all the time. However, i have never had a problem with CCTV cameras, they do help solve crimes, as shown in the case of the 2 French students that were murdered in London, they caught the guy by seeing the CCTV footage of him using the students bank cards. Did you hear they thought about monitoring ALL phone conversations too?

I know i wont be voting Labour at the next election.


See you all at the 2 Minutes hate!

 

[H.R.Shovenstuff]

Soon the information will be given to ISPs, leading to them target advertising, even more than they do now.
This could lead to monitoring what sites have the most traffic, allowing the ISPs to make TV-esque 'bundles'.
End of internet.
You've all heard it before, but I mean seriously this shit is stupid.

 

[Kushan101]

The worrying thing is, I hear this kind of shit and I'm not even surprised anymore. The Government seems to be determined to not only make us think they are incompetant and out of touch, but to prove it. They'll catch terrorists on facebook. Yes.
To think these idiots get paid to come up with this.

Come on Queenie, dissolve parliament and make these wasters do a honest days work for once.

 

[TheRightToArmBears]

YAY FOR THE MELTDOWN OF SOCIETY

lets celebrate.. cake?

EDIT: If someone tells me the cake is a lie... I swear... *shakes fist*

You pretty much asked for it.
The cake is a lie.



Somebody shoot Gordon Brown. Please?

 

[Rolling Thunder]

Sod this, I'm not voting.

Labour wants to restrict my freedoms.
The conservatives will put me out of a job.
And I wouldn't trust the Lib Dems to organise a pissup in a brewery.

 

[razer17]

see im not sure how i feel about it. they are only going to be monitoring communication between you and others. they wont even read 99.9% of it, unless something is flagged up, (my assumption based on the fact they can't really read all communication). also the government has been watching us for years.
on the other hand where can they go after this? if they begin by watching our chats online, when will they start watchiing every click we make on the internet?

 

[Ghost]

*moves to canada*

 

[Sgt. Dante]

*moves to canada*

Agreed
*packs case*

 

[Pyre00]

By the way everyone is talking it seems you all think that they are going to have a person assigned JUST to you to watch your every move online.

Seriously, 99.9999999% of that information will be totally ignored.

 

[Simalacrum]

I've heard someone say before that when the governments need to monitor us and take our freedom away in fear of terrorism, the terrorists have already won.

i tend to agree with that person.

 

[Simalacrum]

Sod this, I'm not voting.

Labour wants to restrict my freedoms.
The conservatives will put me out of a job.
And I wouldn't trust the Lib Dems to organise a pissup in a brewery.

well if your not going to vote, then just vote for The Official Monster Raving Looney Party instead!

 

[Xvito]

Those who would trade freedom for some temporary security, deserves neither freedom nor security.

That's a good quote, I'll be sure to remember that one.

Also, I think that it's pretty scary were the worlds been headed during the last few years.

 

[Wicky_42]

Be prepared for a rant people...

*ahem*
*wants everyone to be watched day and night, 24/7 for no good reason*

Seriously? You say, "How is seeing what we're doing on the internet controlling what we're doing on the internet? Short answer is it isn't. Think about what you're saying." - but don't you realise that here you are the one not thinking? How do China and North Korea keep their populations in check? They monitor them and prevent them from receiving anything that differs from the party line. Now, suppose that a less than congenial government came into power in Britain with the power to monitor and record EVERYONE in the country's communications - they would have the ability to completely manipulate and suppress the population. They would be able to see what political sites you visited, monitor your funds, profile you, and, when they were ready, excise the portions of the population that didn't suit them.

Think that unlikely? There's plenty of intolerant assholes around who wouldn't mind seeing the back of some minority group or another - Jews, Muslims, Communists, Gays - you name it, someone will hate it. In an extreme time (say, economic collapse, or the outbreak of a virulent virus (or both >.>)) extreme parties can potentially gain power, and if we start signing away our civil liberties and protection now, there will be no opportunity to get them back to defend ourselves against the government in the future. America has its guns, but in Britain we only have our faith in the system to protect us from an oppressive regime.

Hell, even if this whole extreme doom-and-gloom thing is far fetched, I don't want my every activity monitored. I want to be able to talk to people without my every word recoded - and the knowledge that government agencies monitor internet traffic for 'key words' anyway is an infringement on our privacy. I don't trust a government enough to give it complete access to my life - I don't trust even my friends enough to tell them everything about myself - and as far as I can see the government doesn't have a good argument for why it should do something like this.

It is people like you, Overlord_Dave, who are part of the problem - too short-sighted to see potential problems looming until it's too late.

 

[Pandalisk]

What we need is afew AK47 and the keys to the Houses of Parliment. Who's with me?

Wait no, we'll have to call it off, MI6 just pulled up outside.

Relaaaaax The IRA we'll do it i assume.

Besides if you all go back into the dark ages and have this totalism crap us irish shall do what we did last time to get you out of it, spread...religion? yea your fucked if it happens

FIGHT THE POWER! and all that shit

 

[Rooster Cogburn]

If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy - James Madison

Since the general civilization of mankind, I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpation - James Madison

What's the worst that could happen?

 

[SyphonX]

By the way everyone is talking it seems you all think that they are going to have a person assigned JUST to you to watch your every move online.

Seriously, 99.9999999% of that information will be totally ignored.

That's not the point. Don't be an imbecile.