UK pedo caught by DSi. Confesses to sex (multiple times) with girl (9-11), Gets 3.5 years. Wat.

[Robert Ewing]

Hurray for the British Justice system being too much of a pussy again!

Just a little hint for anyone who wants to come over here and commit a murder. Say it was a crime of passion, you get 10 years off your sentence free. And if you add 'Satan/God told me to do it' That's another 7 years off. Seriously, look up that shit.

We're too lenient...

 

[Woodsey]

Apparently no-one here has the ability to read secondary sources, because they alone have said that the abuser has borderline learning disabilities, and is getting a whole lot of treatment that goes far beyond 3.5 years.

You don't need to go to jail for hundreds of years to have effective punishment/rehabilitation.

Please, you don't expect people to read, do you? I guess we're lucky people like this fellow aren't the ones making up the rules:

Bloody Hell, this is a complete f**king travesty of justice. He needs to be castrated, painfully.

And we should cut off thieves' hands too, am I right? You know, like a civilised society. Overblown, emotional responses help precisely no one.

Children are taught to react to situations and issues (relative to their age, obviously) better than you just have.

 

[Robert Ewing]

wow, you fucking brits need to shut your ugly pie faces for second.

sure, pedo, pretty disgusting if you ask me but what makes that any wronger than any other criminal, sure his sentenace should have been longer but lifetime imprisonment, torture and death are being suggested, what fucking medieval law system are you employing here? Hes a fucking pedophile not satan you pussys, just shove him in some secluded area where he can work and live with out raping the kids and everythings fine, no reason to blow a fuse as if this dude has ruined humanity.

guess what, this kind of shit probably happend on a regular basis back in the past, happens in the middle east and africa to this DAY and its nothing new.

so you best come up with a better idea for dealing it which isnt backward and barbaric instead of just shouting "KILL THEM HURR DURR", for this so called "civilised" country we live in where we would threaten to kill people who put cats in bins (even though cats/animals fuck young animals and kill them aswell).

>>Insult British people.
>>Expect British people to agree with you anyway.
>>Implies the death penalty doesn't have some merit. Since some of the most advanced and civilized countries to ever exist have it in place.

I'm guessing you're a liberal.

 

[Daystar Clarion]

This is normal for this sort of crime, and jail time is just that.

Jail time. He'll have to attend all manner of groups and rehabilitation units for years afterwards.

Rehab has always been a better alternative than locking people away for 30 years, but hey, get kids involved and it apparently becomes okay to advocate the wholesale murder of people.

Quite funny, don't you think?

penology has such a phenomenal failure rate that it still amazes me any rational person is naive enough to think it's a better or even worthwhile alternative... imprisonment as punishment at least pretty much always achieves it's objectives of punishment and removing them from society where as rehab almost never achieves any of it's goals

I say drop him in general pop in the prison and make sure the guards inform the other inmates of his crimes... he will be dealt with accordingly

Penology still has a long way to go, and is finding more success in some countries (namely, Scandinavian nations) than others.

But only through its failures can we make it better. I don't consider every criminal a viable subject for rehab, but it's certainly an area worthy of investment.

After watching The Shawshank Redemption, I simply can't advocate the idea that a person should be punished their entire lives for a very stupid mistake.

Not everyone can be redeemed, but we should certainly try.

you're seriously letting your opinion on this real world issue be swayed by a movie? don't get me wrong The Shawshank Redemption is an awesome movie but it's not really an accurate depiction or an unbiased one... it's meant as entertainment not to be informative...

also think of it this way... prison is not only punishment and deterrent to the criminal being charged it is also meant to serve as an abject lesson and threat to those contemplating such actions... it does what it is meant to do very well in both the punishment department and the prevention department... now sure rehab for lesser crimes should be looked into so that one day it is viable... but it would be a horrible idea to remove strict punishment as a deterrent because prevention is obviously the best choice

I'm aware that the movie is a romanticism, but I believe the message is the same.

I'm not suggesting that we get rid of prisons, there needs to be place to put dangerous people, there is no argument there. Some people are just a threat to society and should never be released.

 

[Phasmal]

wow, you fucking brits need to shut your ugly pie faces for second.

sure, pedo, pretty disgusting if you ask me but what makes that any wronger than any other criminal, sure his sentenace should have been longer but lifetime imprisonment, torture and death are being suggested, what fucking medieval law system are you employing here? Hes a fucking pedophile not satan you pussys, just shove him in some secluded area where he can work and live with out raping the kids and everythings fine, no reason to blow a fuse as if this dude has ruined humanity.

guess what, this kind of shit probably happend on a regular basis back in the past, happens in the middle east and africa to this DAY and its nothing new.

so you best come up with a better idea for dealing it which isnt backward and barbaric instead of just shouting "KILL THEM HURR DURR", for this so called "civilised" country we live in where we would threaten to kill people who put cats in bins (even though cats/animals fuck young animals and kill them aswell).

What makes you think every person calling for this guy to die is British and everyone who isn't calling for his death ISN'T British?
I'm pretty British and I didn't call for him to die.
Massive generalisations don't help your argument, they make you look stupid.

EDIT: Okay, I checked, people who are calling for torture/murder/wishing bad things on this dude-

American: 3
Non Specified:1
British:2
Australian:1

So.. you were saying?

 

[BNguyen]

Prison is supposed to be a punishment, and that punishment should end when your prison sentence ends. Sex Offender Registries and the like carry the punishment so much longer that the ex-cons will never be able to live freely again, and so will be far, far more likely to turn to crime again, seeing as they can't work their way up the ladder legally anymore.

When you decide to effectively ruin other peoples' lives through theft, rape, murder, etc. you deserve to have your life thoroughly ruined in return - just because you spent a few years in a building doesn't mean that you have made up for what you've done to individuals as well as society.

 

[Woodsey]

>>Implies the death penalty doesn't have some merit. Since some of the most advanced and civilized countries to ever exist have it in place.

I'm guessing you're a liberal.

Like where? Have you ever looked at the list of countries that accompany America in making use of the death penalty? Let's name a few: China, Iran, North Korea, Saudi Arabia and Libya, Somalia, Iraq. Even most of America doesn't use it.

 

[chadachada123]

Look at the first post again: admitted two offences of assault by penetration. PENETRATION. I think that counts as Pedophilia. And it started when the kid was 9, even with all the hormones in food I doubt Puberty started THAT early.

I'm not arguing that he's EDIT: NOT sexually attracted to kids (way) under the age of consent, no, he's definitely a child molester. I was only questioning the pedophilic aspect of it, but I forgot that it started at 9, which would almost-definitely be pre-pubescent, you're right. I just tire of seeing "14 year old blah blah blah pedophilia" in the media and elsewhere constantly, as if ephebophilia and hebephilia were the same as pedophilia.

That is true, but we still feel he should be in prison for a little bit longer. At least then he might just go insane or something. The longer he stays away from the normal world and causing trouble again, the better

While I'd love to see him go insane too, I just question the point of it. Normal prison time is meant to be a punishment to deter criminals from committing crimes. Barring that, it's to keep them off the streets. If he's able to be rehabilitated and prevented from harming children again, then we should do that. If he's unable to be rehabilitated, and is considered to always be a danger to society no matter what, then releasing him at any point would be wrong, I feel.

 

[Phasmal]

What makes you think every person calling for this guy to die is British and everyone who isn't calling for his death ISN'T British?
I'm pretty British and I didn't call for him to die.
Massive generalisations don't help your argument, they make you look stupid.

Hell, I am british and I know too many brits that feel similar about how they should be dealt with by the law, and I get sick of it.

Im not saying americans heartfully embrace pedophilia but I dont think of them as pedophilia haters, or to the extent of the british who appear to be calling all out genocide and torture of pedophiles, and thats no way to bring justice.

Well, as I put above in my edit, if you look on the profiles of the people calling for death/mutliation they are not all British. So obviously there are American kiddy-fiddler haters.

I'm really not interested in what happens to the guy. I dont want to waste my time thinking about him, I'm interested in the girl and hoping she is getting the support she needs. She's obviously brave and clever to get him caught out so I'm hopeful that she won't let this ruin her life.

 

[Daystar Clarion]

This is normal for this sort of crime, and jail time is just that.

Jail time. He'll have to attend all manner of groups and rehabilitation units for years afterwards.

Rehab has always been a better alternative than locking people away for 30 years, but hey, get kids involved and it apparently becomes okay to advocate the wholesale murder of people.

Quite funny, don't you think?

penology has such a phenomenal failure rate that it still amazes me any rational person is naive enough to think it's a better or even worthwhile alternative... imprisonment as punishment at least pretty much always achieves it's objectives of punishment and removing them from society where as rehab almost never achieves any of it's goals

I say drop him in general pop in the prison and make sure the guards inform the other inmates of his crimes... he will be dealt with accordingly

Penology still has a long way to go, and is finding more success in some countries (namely, Scandinavian nations) than others.

But only through its failures can we make it better. I don't consider every criminal a viable subject for rehab, but it's certainly an area worthy of investment.

After watching The Shawshank Redemption, I simply can't advocate the idea that a person should be punished their entire lives for a very stupid mistake.

Not everyone can be redeemed, but we should certainly try.

you're seriously letting your opinion on this real world issue be swayed by a movie? don't get me wrong The Shawshank Redemption is an awesome movie but it's not really an accurate depiction or an unbiased one... it's meant as entertainment not to be informative...

also think of it this way... prison is not only punishment and deterrent to the criminal being charged it is also meant to serve as an abject lesson and threat to those contemplating such actions... it does what it is meant to do very well in both the punishment department and the prevention department... now sure rehab for lesser crimes should be looked into so that one day it is viable... but it would be a horrible idea to remove strict punishment as a deterrent because prevention is obviously the best choice

I'm aware that the movie is a romanticism, but I believe the message is the same.

I'm not suggesting that we get rid of prisons, there needs to be place to put dangerous people, there is no argument there. Some people are just a threat to society and should never be released.

also don't forget for punishment to work it has to outweigh the crime... if the punishment equals the crime (you steal 100 dollars we make you pay 100 dollars back) sure the criminal gains nothing but he also looses nothing so it is neither effective to dissuade the criminal from repeating it nor from dissuading others to commit the same crime... the punishment, to be effective, HAS to cost the criminal more and by a rather large margin... things like punishment for major crimes have very little to do with what the criminal actually deserves and a whole lot to do with what is the best for the entire populous

Risk assessment

I believe it works, 99% of the time.

There are always the idiots who think they can get away with it, so they're made an example of.

 

[Esotera]

You assuming those who posted that give a crap about the abuser. I for one don't. I don't care about 'rehabilitation' I don't care if he was handicapped. I don't care if he gets shanked in prison. I don't care about him period. And as for pedophilia being 'fixed' Where's your source on that? Cause as far as I know there's no cure or fix. I know people who live their life's fighting the urges and don't give in but I have am not now nor was I ever aware of a 'cure' for this. The only cure is a bullet to the head.

So I suppose we should just take everyone with a mental illness that can be treated out back & put a bullet in their skull? Literally two minutes on wikipedia would show that paedophilia can be managed in the same way as any other disease. Leave it to the professionals to decide the best course of treatment.

WELL YA SEE BOYS WAT YA DO IS U TAKE UR SHOTGUN AND SHOOT HIS BALLS OFF

DAMN PEDOS IN MY COUNTRY, THEY DONT DESERVE TO LIVE

Brilliant summary of this entire thread. It's surprising to see so many respones like this on here.