UK Scientist Inches Closer To Living Metal

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theultimateend

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NinjaDeathSlap said:
I hat to be that guy but... How can this possibly benefit us? Is it really a good idea?
Almost nothing you appreciate that has made your life easier came about because someone said "How can we make life better?"

Basically someone tries to make a bomb or is doing something totally random and during the process invents something wonderful.

cookyy2k said:
The Chernobyl disaster happened more fundamentally because of soviet reactor design as opposed to american designs. The disaster never would have occurred if the reactor was as an American design even if the same set of circumstances existed. Soviet reactors had positive void coefficients whereas American designs had negative void coefficients.

In simple terms this means in the soviet design as the heat of the coolant increased so did the nuclear reaction rate forcing a cycle that was always going to lead to a disaster, the American (and now all reactors) however slows the reaction as the heat rises causing the coolant to cool again and the reaction to raise and cycle in that fashion.

The Chernobyl disaster as did happen just wouldn't have if the soviets used the safer but less efficient American designs, the reaction rate would have slowed and everything would have righted itself. The whole thing was a result of the government putting power over safety. Every soviet reactor of the time was a ticking time bomb and really anyone could have set a positive feedback cycle in motion, the control rod design of the soviet reactors was also shoddy but cheap.

OT, this is nothing more than a metallic cell that simulates life, sorry to tell you all but new scientist sensationalises everything so much you'd think they were starting a tabloid.
This was one of the sexiest things I've read in days.

Don't you stop being you :p.
 

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dickywebster said:
If they create necrons, it will an awesome end of the world :3
Not for us. We would either be killed or turned into zombie like creatures.

OT: And then the metal being will rise up, AND METAL SLIMES SHALL WALK THE EARTH!
 

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RHINOS! RHINOS! OUR ENEMIES HIDE IN METAHL BAWKSES! THE COWARDS! THE FOOLS! Well...we will just have to take away their METAHL BAWKSES.

I'll get my coat.
 

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The Night Shade said:
Dorian6 said:
The Night Shade said:
Dorian6 said:
Oh no! They're creating Dr Nye's Bronze men from that movie, Clones of Bruce Lee!

Someone get me some poisonous grass!
I can't believe you referenced that movie

OT: Next Step T-1000
Ha! You scoff now, but we'll see who's laughing when you're getting punched to death by bronze men and I'm shoving deadly deadly grass in their faces which they inexplicably eat.

I'll then retrieve the gold I've been smuggling (by hiding it in the ground) and I'll live like a king!
That's not gold smuggling that's gold hidding
but....but burying it there was a clever move...
 

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NinjaDeathSlap said:
I love science (even though I'm not particularly good at it), and there are few things I despise more than unnecessary scaremongering about science, especially when people use the 'Frankenstein' comparison (because for one thing, Frankenstein never actually happened).

But you know what did happen when a bunch of scientists were just given complete free reign to dick around with a technology they didn't fully understand for no more reason than "because they could"?

Chernobyl happened.
I sincerely hope this was just a terrible attempt at trolling.

Because if not ... wow. I just don't even know what to say to this.

If anyone needs me, I'll be in the corner weeping for the state of humanity.
Save some room there for me please!

won't somebody please think of the children!!?
 

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Wouldn't they have to be able to replicate in order to evolve like they want them to? (Answer: yes very)
 

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Da Orky Man said:
This is starting to sound a bit too much like Necrons...
Exterminatus Y/N? Y
Method? Two Stage Cyclonic Torpedo
*mashes launch button* this is creepy science

while passably useful, 'living metal' is not a good thing for our rather squishy asses to have around
 

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Earnest Cavalli said:
UK Scientist Inches Closer To Living Metal



Lee Cronin, a scientist at the University of Glasgow, has created cells made of metal that he believes are capable of replicating organic life.

"I am 100 per cent positive that we can get evolution to work outside organic biology," Cronin tells New Scientist.

In pursuit of his dream, Cronin and his colleagues have crafted microscopic bubbles that they have dubbed "iCHELLs." New Scientist explains:

His building blocks are large "polyoxometalates" made of a range of metal atoms - most recently tungsten - linked to oxygen and phosphorus. By simply mixing them in solution, he can get them to self-assemble into cell-like spheres.

Cronin and his team begin by creating salts from negatively charged ions of the large metal oxides bound to a small positively charged ion such as hydrogen or sodium. A solution of this salt is squirted into another salt solution made of large, positively charged organic ions bound to small negative ones.

When the two salts meet, they swap parts and the large metal oxides end up partnered with the large organic ions. The new salt is insoluble in water: it precipitates as a shell around the injected solution.

Once created, Cronin claims that he can force the resulting iCHELL to mimic various features of actual organic cells by slightly altering their "metal oxide backbone." For instance, he can build a porous membrane by creating "an oxide with a hole as part of its structure," or imbue the iCHELL with a capacity for photosynthesis by adding light-sensitive dyes and a membrane that can separate hydrogen and oxygen.

Taking a page from Charles Darwin's Thunderdome, Cronin's team plans to spend the next seven months dividing up a huge batch of mass-produced iCHELLs, and exposing them to various chemical elements. The goal, he claims, is to cull the weak iCHELLs, leaving only the strongest, fittest examples of metallic life.

"If the pH is too low and they dissolve then those droplets will have died," Cronin says. "I think we have just shown the first droplets that can evolve."

If this all sounds like a plot to breed a race of unstoppable metal supermen, don't worry; Cronin's initial plans seem much more benign (if no less geeky). "There is every possibility that there are life forms out there which aren't based on carbon," he says.

Yes Virginia, this entire thing is a proof of concept test for freaky aliens. The unstoppable metal supermen will just have to wait.

Source: New Scientist [http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn20906-lifelike-cells-are-made-of-metal.html]
(Image [http://www.myspace.com/bsmario81/photos/51159122])

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I think that's a more fitting (if more predictable) caption image.

But don't worry, It's not like he can turn into a bomb or something, only "knives unt stabbing vepons"
 

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NinjaDeathSlap said:
I hat to be that guy but... How can this possibly benefit us? Is it really a good idea?

There is your answer.
Alternatively,

Science has no use for silly things like "benefits" and whether or not something is "good". It just does because why not?
 

Palademon

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Looks like I'm the only one to think of the more obscure response of the ELSES from the Gundam 00 Movie.

I find the idea of being absorbed by something more terrifying than simply be killed by it.
 

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Da Orky Man said:
This is starting to sound a bit too much like Necrons...
Okay, everybody now, hands up if you think this bloke just ninja'd/spoke-for about 75% of the people who had a look at this article?

Necrons indeed my friend.

 

Jak LesStrange

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And now we are two steps closer to becoming Necrons. Great. I can hear the voice of the C'tan on the breeze... eternal servitude, here we come :)
 

GeorgW

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Oh, I can think of a lot of fun uses with these... Oh yes.
This has the potential to be self-replicating and evolving, but at the moment they don't have an intelligent though process. That's where I come in.
I have no problem with creating skynet, it's just a little misunderstood.
 

008Zulu_v1legacy

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Making a race out of living metal sounds pretty cool to me. Be another nail in the religious coffin that is "We are the only sapient life in the universe." If it can happen, it has happened somewhere.
 

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Capt. Crankypants said:
Da Orky Man said:
This is starting to sound a bit too much like Necrons...
Okay, everybody now, hands up if you think this bloke just ninja'd/spoke-for about 75% of the people who had a look at this article?

Necrons indeed my friend.

Argh! I have been ninja'd so many times...

OT: And they are a 100% sure that this won't come back and bite us in the ass somehow?

Still just to be safe...I for one welcome our new Necron/C'tan overlords. All hail the C'tan!
 

Prof. Monkeypox

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It's very cool, if it works- in fact I'm looking forward to seeing how it all works out.

But I still find it hilarious that he made a porous membrane by drilling a hole in it. That definitely sounds like cheating to me.
 

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First thought: "Giving intelligence to metal, however little, does not seem wise."

Second thought: "I am, however, fully behind a renewable, regenerating metal that could help conserve world resources."