Under-age Sex in The UK (Looking for open discussion).

[Draxz]

How I found this and wondered: I heard from a friend in Northern Ireland that the legal to have sex, have been dropped to '14'. Now, I doubted this, so I did some research. In said 'Research' I found that the age was still 16 (Northern Ireland, 17) BUT! I also found something that I wasn't sure on whether or not I agreed on.

"
A boy who has sex with a girl under 16 (17 in NI) is breaking the law. Even if she agrees.
If she is 13-15, the boy could go to prison for two years.
If she is under 13 he could be sentenced to life imprisonment.
A girl age 16 or over who has sex with a boy under 16 can be prosecuted for indecent assault.
"

I should also mention a fact (that isn't displayed) that, if a male of 17 has sex with a female of 16 (legal age), he can also be imprisoned or "prosecuted for indecent assault".

My thoughts were that, I know it's not a wide chance that a male will get raped by a female. But the rules should EQUALLY be the same, instead of this vast difference, that makes out that MOST males are (in sense) rapists, in the concept of "statutory rape".

Please look more into this if you wish, I'm only looking for peoples' views and opinions on this subject.

NOTE: I haven't said whether or not I agree or disagree with this.

UPDATE: At least 47,000 adult women are raped every year in the UK. Though, there are not many reports (at least in large enough numbers to create a proper percentage) of females raping males.

Though, for a male's penis to be erect, it doesn't require him to be willing as was said from " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_by_gender#Rape_of_males_by_females ".

I will also look more deeper into articles on other pages if threads continue.

UPDATE 2: Also, what would your view be on not telling the other that you had/have an STD/STI? Would that make it a form of rape? Is there any cases on that or other?

 

[Lieju]

It should be the same.
Also for heterosexual and homosexual sex, in a lot of countries the legal age for the latter is higher.

My thoughts were that, I know it's not a wide chance that a male will get raped by a female.

You got any statistics on that? Since when it comes to things like this, it's not about physically forcing yourself on the other, which would be labeled assault (I think).
While these kinds of age limits exist to protect children from being influenced by people before they can really make an informed decision.

As for what that age-limit should be, I don't know. But the age of both people involved definitely should be taken into account.

 

[Thaluikhain]

My thoughts were that, I know it's not a wide chance that a male will get raped by a female. But the rules should EQUALLY be the same, instead of this vast difference, that makes out that MOST males are (in sense) rapists, in the concept of "statutory rape".

I dunno. While a flat law would seem to make logical sense, laws have to reflect the reality of the situation. If there are inequalities in society, the laws of that society must take this into account.

In this case I'd probably go for it being the same though, but I don't see it as changing any time soon.

 

[CrimsonBlaze]

Kids should not be having sex, period. Kids should enjoy the time they have as kids and worry about sex after they turn 18. Then, they are free to explore their sexuality, experiment, have an active sex life, if they choose to, etc. etc.

I know that that's wishful thinking, but a lot of kids try to act like adults minus any responsibility or accountability and what will result from that is adults with no responsibility or accountability for their actions.

 

[Iyon]

I feel like I should be running away from this thread, but against my better judgement...

I'll just say that I think the punishment for a crime should be be determined by the act itself and the circumstances surrounding it. Gender shouldn't come into play. At least, I can't think of a reason why gender would matter.

Though this is assuming that, if I've understood you correctly, these laws only apply to a male having sex with a younger female and don't exist for a female having sex with a younger male.

 

[Mr Cwtchy]

This thread will go well.

I would go over the likely milestones that this thread may achieve but come on people, we know the song and dance already.

This. Urgh.

OT: I concur that the rules should be the same across all genders and sexualities. Exactly why they are different for homosexuals at all is beyond me.

 

[Draxz]

It should be the same.
Also for heterosexual and homosexual sex, in a lot of countries the legal age for the latter is higher.

My thoughts were that, I know it's not a wide chance that a male will get raped by a female.

You got any statistics on that? Since when it comes to things like this, it's not about physically forcing yourself on the other, which would be labeled assault (I think).
While these kinds of age limits exist to protect children from being influenced by people before they can really make an informed decision.

As for what that age-limit should be, I don't know. But the age of both people involved definitely should be taken into account.

I don't have stats, but I shall find out now.

NEWS: "Incidence: At least 47,000 adult women are raped every year in the UK."
As for Males being raped by Females (in the UK) there weren't too many cases. In fact, I couldn't find a direct number. I believe that (or rather take it as) females are raped more frequently than males.

 

[Draxz]

This thread will go well.

I would go over the likely milestones that this thread may achieve but come on people, we know the song and dance already.

OT: I concur that the rules should be the same across all genders and sexualities. Exactly why they are different for homosexuals at all is beyond me.

The age for homosexual sex and heterosexual sex is the same.

 

[Draxz]

Though this is assuming that, if I've understood you correctly, these laws only apply to a male having sex with a younger female and don't exist for a female having sex with a younger male.

That is correct (practically). Though, it seems like a rather sexist judgement, or am I wrong? (Quote?)

 

[DevilWithaHalo]

But the rules should EQUALLY be the same, instead of this vast difference, that makes out that MOST males are (in sense) rapists, in the concept of "statutory rape".

Agreed completely. A little tired of seeing female teachers having sex with underage boys treated as confused and sent to rehab while the reverse are vilified as rapists and may never see the light of day. Double standards people; they're fucking retarded. And this, coming from a society that expounds the ideology of "rape culture". Delicious irony.

 

[Mr Cwtchy]

This thread will go well.

I would go over the likely milestones that this thread may achieve but come on people, we know the song and dance already.

OT: I concur that the rules should be the same across all genders and sexualities. Exactly why they are different for homosexuals at all is beyond me.

The age for homosexual sex and heterosexual sex is the same.

That's what I get for not doing the research.

Used to be higher for them though. Stupid really.

 

[Iyon]

Though this is assuming that, if I've understood you correctly, these laws only apply to a male having sex with a younger female and don't exist for a female having sex with a younger male.

That is correct (practically). Though, it seems like a rather sexist judgement, or am I wrong? (Quote?)

I don't know, for some reason I don't want to call it "sexist". I think these laws were created based on the belief that there are more occurrences of males taking advantage of females, which isn't really sexist if it's true. I do think it's wrong though since I believe the punishment should be based on the crime itself rather than the overall frequency of the crime.

 

[Lieju]

It should be the same.
Also for heterosexual and homosexual sex, in a lot of countries the legal age for the latter is higher.

My thoughts were that, I know it's not a wide chance that a male will get raped by a female.

You got any statistics on that? Since when it comes to things like this, it's not about physically forcing yourself on the other, which would be labeled assault (I think).
While these kinds of age limits exist to protect children from being influenced by people before they can really make an informed decision.

As for what that age-limit should be, I don't know. But the age of both people involved definitely should be taken into account.

I don't have stats, but I shall find out now.

NEWS: "Incidence: At least 47,000 adult women are raped every year in the UK."
As for Males being raped by Females (in the UK) there weren't too many cases. In fact, I couldn't find a direct number. I believe that (or rather take it as) females are raped more frequently than males.

But does that hold true for statutory rape? Since that's a different circumstance from rape generally, and it's about the minor giving consent, but the society stepping in and telling them they aren't old enough to do so.

 

[Draxz]

It should be the same.
Also for heterosexual and homosexual sex, in a lot of countries the legal age for the latter is higher.

My thoughts were that, I know it's not a wide chance that a male will get raped by a female.

You got any statistics on that? Since when it comes to things like this, it's not about physically forcing yourself on the other, which would be labeled assault (I think).
While these kinds of age limits exist to protect children from being influenced by people before they can really make an informed decision.

As for what that age-limit should be, I don't know. But the age of both people involved definitely should be taken into account.

I don't have stats, but I shall find out now.

NEWS: "Incidence: At least 47,000 adult women are raped every year in the UK."
As for Males being raped by Females (in the UK) there weren't too many cases. In fact, I couldn't find a direct number. I believe that (or rather take it as) females are raped more frequently than males.

But does that hold true for statutory rape? Since that's a different circumstance from rape generally, and it's about the minor giving consent, but the society stepping in and telling them they aren't old enough to do so.

Touché... I shall look more into that.

 

[Draxz]

Though this is assuming that, if I've understood you correctly, these laws only apply to a male having sex with a younger female and don't exist for a female having sex with a younger male.

That is correct (practically). Though, it seems like a rather sexist judgement, or am I wrong? (Quote?)

I don't know, for some reason I don't want to call it "sexist". I think these laws were created based on the belief that there are more occurrences of males taking advantage of females, which isn't really sexist if it's true. I do think it's wrong though since I believe the punishment should be based on the crime itself rather than the overall frequency of the crime.

So do you believe there should be some kind of lea-way?

 

[Draxz]

This thread will go well.

I would go over the likely milestones that this thread may achieve but come on people, we know the song and dance already.

OT: I concur that the rules should be the same across all genders and sexualities. Exactly why they are different for homosexuals at all is beyond me.

The age for homosexual sex and heterosexual sex is the same.

That's what I get for not doing the research.

Used to be higher for them though. Stupid really.

No, it's fine, it used to be 18 for homosexuals but they called against it, for it to be the same. Though, numerous jokes were saying that: Nobody saw 16 year olds walking with the Gay Pride march to legalize it to 16.

Though, I'm bisexual and I don't really see why homosexual sex 'should' be higher... I mean, unlike heterosexual sex (apart from the obvious STI/STD's, there's less of a life-risk at hand. Due to homosexuals not being able to inpregnant one-an-other.

 

[DirtyJunkieScum]

As with a lot of British laws "could face up to" generally means "will not get anywhere near". The CPS traditionally only prosecutes when there is need to protect the public or individuals (although in recent years that's become less true as pressure to achieve targets has increased) and prosecuting a 17 year old boy for sleeping with his 15 year old girlfriend has generally not been seen as in the public interest, basically the CPS see it as job for the social workers, not the justice system.

However from what I can tell you are referring to the fact that in law, a male of 16+ having sex with a female under 16 can be charged with statutory rape whereas a female of 16+ having sex with a male under 16 can only be charged with indecent assault, a much less serious crime?

 

[Draxz]

As with a lot of British laws "could face up to" generally means "will not get anywhere near". The CPS traditionally only prosecutes when there is need to protect the public or individuals (although in recent years that's become less true as pressure to achieve targets has increased) and prosecuting a 17 year old boy for sleeping with his 15 year old girlfriend has generally not been seen as in the public interest, basically the CPS see it as job for the social workers, not the justice system.

However from what I can tell you are referring to the fact that in law, a male of 16+ having sex with a female under 16 can be charged with statutory rape whereas a female of 16+ having sex with a male under 16 can only be charged with indecent assault, a much less serious crime?

Yes, that's what I did mean?..