Under-age Sex in The UK (Looking for open discussion).

[userwhoquitthesite]

Also, what would your view be on not telling the other that you had/have an STD/STI? Would that make it a form of rape? Is there any cases on that or other?

In america, at least, if you know you have an std, and have sex with someone and don't tell them, it is a criminal offense.
EDIT: i THINK that's because of the guy who was giving AIDS to every person he could, but I'm not sure, and don't feel like doing research

 

[zumbledum]

well i suspect most laws about age and sex come from religious pressure particularly in the europe/america area. that explains why sex with boys isnt a crime ;0

not telling someone about a std i think would be more along the lines of assault than rape, and i seem to recall several publicised cases of people who were HIV+ being charged with manslaughter/murder for not telling people then having unprotected sex with them.

 

[DazZ.]

what the fuck does banned by request mean?
can i request to have people banned?

not cool mods.... very not cool

It means he requested himself to be banned.

 

[Draxz]

Also, what would your view be on not telling the other that you had/have an STD/STI? Would that make it a form of rape? Is there any cases on that or other?

In america, at least, if you know you have an std, and have sex with someone and don't tell them, it is a criminal offense.
EDIT: i THINK that's because of the guy who was giving AIDS to every person he could, but I'm not sure, and don't feel like doing research

Hahah! Your edit made my day! :')

what the fuck does banned by request mean?
can i request to have people banned?

not cool mods.... very not cool

It means he requested himself to be banned.

Deep...

well i suspect most laws about age and sex come from religious pressure particularly in the europe/america area. that explains why sex with boys isnt a crime ;0

As I recall, in the more modern days of religion, people were getting married and if not having sex at 13~ Though... That might just be Britain's fucked up version, that France never seemed to lose. (Legal age for sex in France is 13).

 

[KingsGambit_v1legacy]

But it still sounds like a 16 year old would be charged for having sex with a 15 year old, even if they are only months apart. Unless I missed something of course.

Potentially, yes, someone of 16 could be prosecuted for breaking the law for sleeping with someone 15 or younger, but the judge is very unlikely to convict with that age difference. I don't know of a single case where such a thing has happened. In general terms, someone of 16-18 has some lee-way in the eyes of the court.

I think you misunderstood what I've been saying.

But I have taken what you've said into account.

Also, my 'facts' are correct.

Actually they're not entirely accurate. There is no distinction below 16 (where you suggested there were several distinct brackets) and there is no distinction between boys and girls (you suggested boys specifically as facing harsher punishment). An overage girl would be charged for precisely the same crime as an overage boy would be for sleeping with an underage partner. Please see my comment above.

You specifically wrote:

But the rules should EQUALLY be the same, instead of this vast difference

They are equal in every way. There is no distinction between male and female in this regard.
NB. You could've just used "equal" OR "the same" as they have the same meaning in this context.

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I will give you all another interesting tidbit. While it's perfectly legal to have sex with anyone at age 16 in the UK, it is illegal to video or photograph it if the subject is below 18. Anyone below 18 is still covered by the child pornographic laws.
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A further talking point. The legal age of consent for homosexual sex in the UK was 18 (until very recently, perhaps 2-3 years). Even though discriminating based on sexual preference has been against the law for many years, the ages of consent were different. My understanding it was the government's way of giving homosexual/not-sure/bi-curious teens an extra two years to "think it through".

 

[Draxz]

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I'm gonna have to reply later... All I can see is Justin Bieber ._.

 

[Treblaine]

I'd like an adjustment with the absolute age raised to 18 with no statutory limits, with conditional age lowered to 14.

That is if two people who are very young and there is no abuse or manipulation, then the age of consent is 14, though the police have a right to investigate any relationship with a mandate to prosecute with anyone over the age of 30 being involved with anyone under 16 and really 14 is only with other similarly young teenagers.

It's what's it called, a "close in" age of consent. Mainly there so that you don't have to worry about school-college age people having relations.

But 18 years or older. That's the "full age of consent" where unless a part actually claims abuse then the law should not get involved as long as both are 18 years old or older.

If the age of consent is not raised to 18, then the voting age and other rights should be lowered to 16.

 

[someonehairy-ish]

Kids should not be having sex, period. Kids should enjoy the time they have as kids and worry about sex after they turn 18. Then, they are free to explore their sexuality, experiment, have an active sex life, if they choose to, etc. etc.

Your average sixteen year old's reaction to that:
"Yay, I only have to repress my sexuality for another couple of years so I can be all sweet and innocent because some condescending arse thinks I should be."

Nobody has any control over what age they start having a sex drive, so it's entirely nonsensical to assign some arbitrary lower age limit on when they can start doing it. It's also utterly misguided to believe that, for those people who do want to have sex before 18, that it's even possible to just 'not worry about it' entirely. That would be like asking a starving man not to want to eat the sandwich right in front of him, because it isn't tea-time yet.

Obviously, I'm aware that very young people attempting it are likely to make some stupid blunder. That said, your first time has to be sometime unless you plan to become a nun. Delaying it until you 'know better' probably isn't going to do you a whole lot of good besides possibly avoiding some embarrassment, assuming your country's sex education program is any good and has brought you up to a decent level of informed-ness before you ever get socially adept enough to get a girlfriend/boyfriend.
So be aware that, even though this probably seems like a reasonable statement to you, to other people it seems utterly frustrating and stupid.

OT:Everything that Evilthecat said in Post 35 (bottom of page 1) is valid. Go and read it. Also, boo, why isn't the age of consent for homosexual people the same as it is for heterosexual people? Surely homosexual sex requires less maturity because any responsibilities involving contraception are unneccessary?
Your law is bad, and you should feel bad!

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Hang on, so when I had sex with my 16 year old girlfriend (I was 16) after four months in a relationship that ended up lasting about 18 months, the police should have had any authority to investigate either of us?
Oh lordy, I used to hate age limits on everything so much. I'm so happy none of them apply any more -.-

Addendum:
If anyone is wondering why I'm so touchy on the subject, it's because I was a pretty early developer, especially for a guy (6 foot tall and facial hair at 13) - and the entirety of my early teenage years was spent feeling utterly frustrated that the only things I were allowed to do and that the curriculum said I should be doing seemed utterly childish and dull, with no challenge. Now that I've stopped growing and accumulating hair so quickly and people have had a chance to catch up, I'm ok, but the issue of arbitrary age limits will forever be my berserk button.