Unexpected News: The Wachowski Sisters! Second Wachowski Sibling Comes Out As Trans.

[KyuubiNoKitsune-Hime]

So the other sibling of the infamous Wachowski siblings, best known for their work on the Matrix series, has come out as trans and now goes by the name Lilly. [http://www.windycitymediagroup.com/lgbt/Second-Wachowski-filmmaker-sibling-comes-out-as-trans-/54509.html]

Unfortunately she had to come out as a trans woman before she was ready. This is because The Daily FailMail threatened to out her in their tabloid, forcing Lilly to have to come out early. As Lilly put it in her own words in the article mentioned above:

Then last night while getting ready to go out for dinner my doorbell rang. Standing on my front porch was a man I did not recognize.

"This might be a little awkward," he said in an English accent.

I remember sighing.

Sometimes it's really tough work to be an optimist.

He proceeded to explain he was a journalist from the Daily Mail, which was the largest news service in the UK and was most definitely not a tabloid. And that I really had to sit down with him tomorrow or the next day or next week so that I could have my picture taken and tell my story which was so inspirational! And that I really didn't want to have someone from the National Enquirer following me around, did I? BTW?The Daily Mail is so definitely not a tabloid.

My sister Lana and I have largely avoided the press. I find talking about my art frustratingly tedious and talking about myself a wholly mortifying experience. I knew at some point I would have to come out publicly. You know, when you're living as an out transgender person it's ? kind of difficult to hide. I just wanted?needed some time to get my head right, to feel comfortable.

But apparently I don't get to decide this.

After he had given me his card, and I closed the door it began to dawn on me where I had heard of the Daily Mail. It was the "news" organization that had played a huge part in the national public outing of Lucy Meadows, an elementary school teacher and trans woman in the UK. An editorial in the "not-a-tabloid" demonized her as a damaging influence on the children's delicate innocence and summarized "he's not only trapped in the wrong body, he's in the wrong job." The reason I knew about her wasn't because she was transgender it was because three months after the Daily Mail article came out, Lucy committed suicide.

And now here they were, at my front door, almost as if to say?

"There's another one! Let's drag 'em out in the open so we can all have a look!"

Anyways this is surprising news, it's not often you hear of two siblings who both happen to be transgender. Still in spite of her having to come out before she was ready, still I'm glad she was able to preempt the tabloid piece.

Source one [http://www.windycitymediagroup.com/lgbt/Second-Wachowski-filmmaker-sibling-comes-out-as-trans-/54509.html] and source two [http://www.glaad.org/releases/tip-sheet-transgender-terminology-and-tips-covering-lilly-wachowski]

Edit: As a side note there is some huge unintentional irony tied to this. The "RedPill" movement composed of men calling them selves "Red-Pillers" who reject feminism. This movement takes it's namesake from the choice of the red pill to be awakened to reality outside the matrix, or the blue pill to remain int he fantasy. Ironic because the namesake has come from two people who rejected being labeled as men, then transitioned to being women. These two are Lana and Lilly Wachowski.

 

[Ten Foot Bunny]

"The Wachowski Sisters" sounds a whole lot better than "The Wachowski Siblings." Good for Lilly!

Also, The Daily Mail can piss right off.

 

[DudeistBelieve]

Well, right on. Kinda a dick move on the newspapers part. Still what are the odds both of them would be? Then again, what are the odds they'd both be successful film makers? Funny old world, ain't it?

On a unrelated note: Can we fucking not just automatically subscribe the red pill/blue pill analogy with a group of jackasses on reddit? Like can we really fucking not? I can't wear a beard, I can't wear a fancy hat, I can't eat motherfucking cheetos, now I need to give up the modern interpretation of Plato's Cave? Fucking aye.

 

[KyuubiNoKitsune-Hime]

Well, right on. Kinda a dick move on the newspapers part. Still what are the odds both of them would be? Then again, what are the odds they'd both be successful film makers? Funny old world, ain't it?

On a unrelated note: Can we fucking not just automatically subscribe the red pill/blue pill analogy with a group of jackasses on reddit? Like can we really fucking not? I can't wear a beard, I can't wear a fancy hat, I can't eat motherfucking cheetos, now I need to give up the modern interpretation of Plato's Cave? Fucking aye.

Yeah, I wouldn't call the Daily Fail Mail a news paper, they're a shit-rag tabloid on some level lower than the defunct Weekly World News. I dunno the odds of siblings being trans, but it must be minuscule with the low odds of being trans at all, plus the odds of being a successful anything.

On that unrelated note: I did mention "The Red Pill" which is a PUA sub-reddit, that's as far as I know where they started. So don't blame me blame the jackasses who started the sub-reddit for wannabe "alpha-males" who have never seen a real live woman naked.

 

[DudeistBelieve]

Well, right on. Kinda a dick move on the newspapers part. Still what are the odds both of them would be? Then again, what are the odds they'd both be successful film makers? Funny old world, ain't it?

On a unrelated note: Can we fucking not just automatically subscribe the red pill/blue pill analogy with a group of jackasses on reddit? Like can we really fucking not? I can't wear a beard, I can't wear a fancy hat, I can't eat motherfucking cheetos, now I need to give up the modern interpretation of Plato's Cave? Fucking aye.

Yeah, I wouldn't call the Daily Fail Mail a news paper, they're a shit-rag tabloid on some level lower than the defunct Weekly World News. I dunno the odds of siblings being trans, but it must be minuscule with the low odds of being trans at all, plus the odds of being a successful anything.

On that unrelated note: I did mention "The Red Pill" which is a PUA sub-reddit, that's as far as I know where they started. So don't blame me blame the jackasses who started the sub-reddit for wannabe "alpha-males" who have never seen a real live woman naked.

Oh no, I blame all of societies and life's ills upon you. You are the sole cause of Donald Trump. You have to live with that.

That was more my bitching to the internet populace in general, not you particularly. It was a few years back I made some sort of argument and breifly referred to the red pills, as in ya know The Matrix Red Pills, and another user thought I was referring to the reddit and it... was just a mess really. We've let them take away a great analogy of a movie and that's a bummer.

I've read different things about the odds of being Trans, If I have to fancy an uneducated guess I would put money on more than miniscule since we barely even know the reason why it happens in the first place beyond brain formation during pregnancy. But hell if I know really, heard someone on Tumblr talk about Trans-Activation once. Is that a thing? Don't know. Maybe having her sister go through with it allowed Lilly to come to terms with their own personal feelings? Again, me talking out of my ass.

Who the hell keeps buying that newspaper then? Is that the UK's Fox News? Cause American's have an excuse. We're mostly morons. We built Monster Trucks because we were bored. But the UKers should know better.

(Edited, pronouns are a ************)

 

[Fox12]

Well, right on. Kinda a dick move on the newspapers part. Still what are the odds both of them would be? Then again, what are the odds they'd both be successful film makers? Funny old world, ain't it?

On a unrelated note: Can we fucking not just automatically subscribe the red pill/blue pill analogy with a group of jackasses on reddit? Like can we really fucking not? I can't wear a beard, I can't wear a fancy hat, I can't eat motherfucking cheetos, now I need to give up the modern interpretation of Plato's Cave? Fucking aye.

I think it's statistically more likely for siblings. The rates go up with things like twins. There's probably something genetic that makes people predisposed towards things like that.

OT: Good for them. I'm sure this wasn't easy. It's sad that she was betrayed by some scummy newspaper. I can't imagine what it would be like to have some stranger come to your door and declare that. Did they think they were being ethical by giving her some warning? How awful.

 

[JoJo]

Huh, good for her, I hadn't heard before that the first sibling had transitioned.

And fuck the Daily Mail.

 

[Superbeast]

All I can really say is what I said on Facebook:

Fuck the Daily Mail.

To add, as noted in Lily's article, they have a history of this reprehensible shit.

I don't really know what else to say - I wish Lily well and want to say "good for her", yet publicly coming out was not her decision thanks to the scumbags at the Fail so it feels inappropriate.

 

[Parasondox]

The Daily Mail can go fuck themselves with rust infected fork. They are scum among news and I don't even count them as a news outlet. They are just a "paper", for narcissistic arseholes, narrow-minded fools and People who are just filled with hate and anger. Pathetic fucks.

 

[FirstNameLastName]

Is there something I'm missing here? If she wasn't already out then how did the Daily Mail know she's trans? What's more, why does she say ...

...

My sister Lana and I have largely avoided the press. I find talking about my art frustratingly tedious and talking about myself a wholly mortifying experience. I knew at some point I would have to come out publicly. You know, when you're living as an out transgender person it's ? kind of difficult to hide. I just wanted?needed some time to get my head right, to feel comfortable.

...

So was she already in the process of transitioning or something? Has she already made it know to friends and family? I understand what "out" means in terms of a verb, but I'm not really getting what is meant by "out" in this circumstance since it apparently doesn't mean "known to the public" as I would expect. Does it just mean "out" to a small portion of people?

Edit: Okay, according to the linked article.

So yeah, I'm transgender.

And yeah, I've transitioned.

I'm out to my friends and family. Most people at work know too.

 

[Zhukov]

Man, total dick move on the part of the Daily Mail there.

I realise that publishing stuff that the subjects don't want published is a common part of journalism, but aren't they supposed to keep that to things that are "in the public interest" or some such?

This seems like a personal thing that really isn't any of the public's business.

 

[Zykon TheLich_v1legacy]

Man, total dick move on the part of the Daily Mail there.

I realise that publishing stuff that the subjects don't want published is a common part of journalism, but aren't they supposed to keep that to things that are "in the public interest" or some such?

This seems like a personal thing that really isn't any of the public's business.

You expect any different from the Daily Fail?

 

[Zhukov]

Man, total dick move on the part of the Daily Mail there.

I realise that publishing stuff that the subjects don't want published is a common part of journalism, but aren't they supposed to keep that to things that are "in the public interest" or some such?

This seems like a personal thing that really isn't any of the public's business.

You expect any different from the Daily Fail?

I suppose. I'm not actually all that familiar with them.

I just know them as That UK Newspaper That Does Shit Things. Like, every time one hears about a shit thing being done by journalists in the UK they're always from the Daily Mail. Every time.

 

[Casual Shinji]

Maybe now their movies will finally be good again. Maybe they just needed to be on the same page.

 

[Zykon TheLich_v1legacy]

[quote="DudeistBelieve

 

[GrumbleGrump]

Oh hey! Does this mean they'll give me back my money for Jupiter Asceding?

 

[Pseudonym]

That 'journalist' and the daily mail can go fuck themselves. There is no reason to make a story out of this against the explicit wishes of the subject. It is in nobodies interest. I don't even know who cares that a bottom-tier public figure who made a popular few movies once is now a woman, but if you really care about it that much you can write your tabloid nonsense about somebody who hasn't asked you not to.

 

[Something Amyss]

Aaaaaaand red pillers are now named after a movie made by TWO transwomen. Epic.

Unfortunate about the situation, though, kinda know how that feels (though nowhere near on the same scale)

"The Wachowski Sisters" sounds a whole lot better than "The Wachowski Siblings." Good for Lilly!

Also, The Daily Mail can piss right off.

"Wachowskis" works for all occasions.

On a unrelated note: Can we fucking not just automatically subscribe the red pill/blue pill analogy with a group of jackasses on reddit? Like can we really fucking not? I can't wear a beard, I can't wear a fancy hat, I can't eat motherfucking cheetos, now I need to give up the modern interpretation of Plato's Cave? Fucking aye.

Weird. I still wear a fedora.

I mean, I'm not interested in Cheetos or a beard, but still. I imagine I'd rock those if I wanted to. Also, Linkara wears such a hat, and he's vilified as an evil feminist SJW. And HE IS A M...nah, that meme seems silly. How is it people let these things shape them so?

I understand what "out" means in terms of a verb, but I'm not really getting what is meant by "out" in this circumstance since it apparently doesn't mean "known to the public" as I would expect.

I know you already got your answer, but just to tack on:

coming out is generally a process. It's a process I imagine is greatly complicated by having the level of game Lana and Lilly have. Most people come out in essentially dribs and drabs, based on things like "who I think I can trust" and "who needs to know." And the main reason I imagine that those are complicated is that the stakes are higher if you're wrong. They could, for example, not just gossip about you or say something which endangers your life, but they could got to say, the Daily Fail and then THEY could start in with material that could endanger your life on a whole new scale.

I doubt they want their lives turned into a circus, either. In fact, she pretty much stated that's why they avoid the public. It can be super uncomfortable confiding in people and worse when it comes to being more open. Not that I know anything about this sort of anxiety or anything. >.<

Now if only we could get Caitlyn Jenner to do the same.

I realise that publishing stuff that the subjects don't want published is a common part of journalism, but aren't they supposed to keep that to things that are "in the public interest" or some such?

And minimising harm. But this is a discussion of journalistic ethics, and I'm pretty sure it has no place here.

 

[PainInTheAssInternet]

Wow. What a bunch of asswipes.

Makes sense. Apparently if one sibling is homosexual, bisexual, transgender etc. then the other siblings will have a higher chance of being the same.

 

[Something Amyss]

Wow. What a bunch of asswipes.

Makes sense. Apparently if one sibling is homosexual, bisexual, transgender etc. then the other siblings will have a higher chance of being the same.

And now I just wait for my sibling to come out.