Universal Porn Filter Coming to the U.K.

[II2]

I'm all for blocking access to rape and child porn

I'm not.

Because I don't know what they mean by 'rape porn',and I doubt they know either.

Pretty much every 'rape porn' movie on the internet would be better described as badly-acted-and-unconvincingly-rough-for-the-first-few-minutes porn... but based on the way the government defined 'extreme' porn a few years ago I expect a vague and dangerously broad definition for 'rape' porn. If neither the government, nor the police, nor judges nor juries are exact in their definition then people will have their lives ruined when they go on the sex offender list and/or go to jail for possession of entirely consensual pornography.

Agreed.

Though I find it distasteful, personally, 'rape porn' is a scary sounding headline well picked for political weight, but in practice, it is 99% consenting adults performing BDSM scenes, their success with the audience reliant on a convincing illusion of it being non-consensual. It's an edgy, taboo fantasy affair, for the most part.

Real instances of it have been called out by both the victims and the ethical participants of the audience that consume such material, with video evidence ready for court. Commerical porno sites are a business and hosting illegal material is an express invitation to getting shut down, or worse, having their assests frozen and arrested for criminal conspirarcy. They police themselves.

 

[EeveeElectro]

PORN IS THE WORST THING IN THE WORLD! HIDE YO' WIFE, HIDE YO' KIDS!
They're probably going to slip some sneaky law in while this and the royal baby thing is distracting us. ;~;

It should be up to the households to get their own adult block with their internet. Most providers ask you when you set up with them! You probably shouldn't get Internet if you have young kids and are completely ignorant to the horrors online...

Banning illegal porn I definitely agree with. I don't see what this will achieve because I don't know what's so terrible about porn. ;_;

 

[Johnson McGee]

Seems to me that politicians seem to go after the things they think about or fear the most. For example, that U.S. Republican who railed against homosexuality and was then found soliciting a homosexual prostitute in an airport bathroom. I would not be the least bit surprised if those politicians supporting this bill were the most voracious consumers of the same pornography they claim to abhor so thoroughly.

There needs to be a memetic law for this sort of thing, like Godwin's Law.

OT: This idea is just dumb in every sense. Putting aside all the obvious censorship and infringement of personal liberty, it's just a very poor way of addressing the 'problem'. The amount of money and effort to put this filter into place (properly) would be much better spent in various education programs and law enforcement initiatives to address the problems directly. Cameron's justification of targeting illegal child or 'rape porn' is blatantly false, if this was the aim there would be no opt-out of the filter. This whole exercise is a transparent political ploy.

P.S. Still waiting for a politician that campaigns for the rights of singles to save us from the oppressive yoke of those evil children and families. I want a law that classifies un-immunized children as biological weapons!

 

[mirage202]

Bullshit. This whole thing is bullshit. Let the parents in this country do some parenting for a change.

Not possible, the parents this shit is aimed at are too busy picking up the latest edition of the Daily Mail, or sitting down the job center waiting their turn to sign on, where are they possibly going to find the spare time to raise the little welfare earners?

 

[vallorn]

Isn't Cameron the guy who's butchering the UK's health system (NHS, I believe it's called) and who is also cutting funding for schools?

How the hell can he possibly say he's protecting the children with a straight face?

Except neither of those are true. The NHS hasn't suffered any budget cuts under this government (On the contrary actually) and the Education Secretary is working on reforming the school system to allow for more parent choice as well as removing money from bureaucrats and giving it directly to the schools themselves.

On this though Cameron is utterly and completely barking mad.

Wait, this guy is conservative? Aren't conservatives supposed to be against empowering the government more than it already is?

Regardless, I have a feeling Google DNS is going to become very popular in the UK very quickly.

US conservative =/= UK conservative. Also he's in coalition with the Lib Dems who are as far from being liberal and democratic as can possibly be (unless you agree with their every opinion).

 

[Irridium]

Isn't Cameron the guy who's butchering the UK's health system (NHS, I believe it's called) and who is also cutting funding for schools?

How the hell can he possibly say he's protecting the children with a straight face?

Except neither of those are true. The NHS hasn't suffered any budget cuts under this government (On the contrary actually) and the Education Secretary is working on reforming the school system to allow for more parent choice as well as removing money from bureaucrats and giving it directly to the schools themselves.

Really? Interesting. Thanks for the info.

 

[wizzy555]

Well the NHS has been restructured with more emphasis on private contractors.

 

[Sir Thomas Sean Connery]

PORNOGRAPHY IS RUINING OUR CHILDREN!!

That's actually true. Porn addiction is a real thing. And every study about porn users so far had revealed that it can be quite damaging. I will refer you to this set of videos titled "Your brain on porn". It's very interesting and educational. And it will change your perspective on porn.

Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aS9vumF6JMU
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxrG6QZ-G0M
Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOsF81sC4vo
Part 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGwIrmF1Z6k
Part 5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQgUzACfTHI
Part 6: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQQRHdPri2s

Even though I don't like censorship, this isn't actually a bad thing.

Yes it is a bad thing, no it didn't change my perspective and if you're the type of person that accepts censorship because of one video series, you're a very, very silly fellow.

OT:
I would thank something or other that I don't live in the UK, but I know this type of crap will start spreading. Hopefully the UK will realize just how pointless it is and give up before really enforcing it.

 

[Daverson]

And to think, not less than 70 years Britain was the last bastion against Fascism in Europe...

I like how many people are saying the conservatives are supposed to be for small government... newsflash people, the only things the big 3 parties stand for lying to get votes and lining their own pockets once their in power. You can bet your arse some lobbyist group is behind this bullshit. It's exactly the same shit they're trying to pull in the US with "won't someone think about the children" plastered over the front of it.

 

[Guilherme Zoldan]

This is really a token gesture to appease conservative soccer moms. It won't do anything more then just embarass some adults and inconvenience some kids who want porn.
I don't like the idea behind it though, in two ways.
The idea that the government should do parents' jobs for them and the puritan bullshit that motivates this hatred towards porn. Our society has this revulsion towards sex, seeing it as a bad thing we should protect our kids from.
You can't just shove a child in a bubble until he is eighteen years old, shutting them off from their own and everyone else's sexuality.
Sexual repression is harmfull and doesnt work.

 

[wizzy555]

US conservative =/= UK conservative. Also he's in coalition with the Lib Dems who are as far from being liberal and democratic as can possibly be (unless you agree with their every opinion).

UK conservatives are like weedy ineffectual, polite, republicans but without the constitution holding them back. Except in UK, republican means you want to get rid of the monarchy and UK conservatives are usually pro-monarchy. Conservatives tend not to be keen on the European union, although some are bitterly divided on this.

Labour was rather hardcore socialist before Blair moderated it in the 90s. Now it's fairly centrist at least by UK standards.

The liberal democrats are rather hard to describe as they haven't had real power before and tend to be more of mix of protest votes. Typically very pro Europe, somewhat moderate individualist on economic issues and socially liberal.

Not all that much different between them really.

 

[The White Hunter]

This move by the government to step in and ban porn is brought to you by the Conservatives, the Party that has always argued for small government and for the state to not interfere in day to day life.

Funny that. Conservatives have a massive problem with the state stepping in to make sure welfare is provided to families living below the poverty line, they have a massive problem with the state stepping in to make sure free healthcare is provided to al, but they have no problem with the state stepping in and enforcing a block on porn which specifically requires citizens to ask permission to circumvent it.

Porn is the right of every free, adult citizen in the UK. It is not something we should have to ask permission for. This is the latest move from a colossal fuckhead, and his government of fuckheads.

Know what I'm for in this stupid country? People actually having a say in anything that fucking happens here.

 

[The Funslinger]

The biggest wanker in the country wants to ban porn.

There's something ironic about that.

Just another example of the nanny state taking responsibility from stupid parents so the rest of us have to suffer. Why an opt out system? Why not make it an opt in system, it makes no goddamn sense.

This, basically. That said, maybe him and Piers Morgan wouldn't be such massive wankers if they'd just realize they'd have so much fun sucking each other off instead.

 

[MammothBlade]

Cameron called upon Google, Bing and other search engines to blacklist sites provided to them by the government,

I don't think serious perverts use mainstream search engines.

 

[SerBrittanicus]

Because communism is an economic model and "Nazi" is generally short-hand for fascist?

What in the hell are you talking about. In that case I could argue that National Socialism is an economic model as well. The very basis of Communism necessitates a political component, which many people and governments are a part of. In any case I don't know why anybody would use Nazi as shorthand for Fascism since they aren't the same thing and unlike Nazism Fascism isn't inherently bad as many people who hold left wing political beliefs like to believe.

 

[deathzero021]

f*** this guy and his stupid @$$ idea. it'll never work. Internet = Porn. and i really hate these child worshipers, children aren't innocent, they are barbaric selfish beasts that need to be disciplined into civilization. I saw porn when i was six years old (on video!) and it didn't corrupt me and turn me into a rampaging sex machine. instead it did absolutely nothing. i didn't have sex until i was nearly 18 years old and i've been with the same person ever since. (and i've watched a lot of porn too)

captcha: lost love.
... lol.

 

[Toilet]

The kids will find porn whether it be on the internet or not, my first "What are these AWESOME pictures and what is my penis doing?" prepubescent erection was to some collectible pornographic playing cards. Either way this is some serious nanny state shit that pisses me off, on the other hand it'll probably cut down my masturbation habits by a lot and maybe give me the incentive to reconnect with my roots.

 

[Immortal_Engines]

The Conservative Party -It's not the nanny state when we do it!

 

[Ruley]

This won't pass, Labour party will get in and postpone a lot of the unpopular notions of the conservatives, most notably the EU referendum.

I think something has to be done, but something can already be done, the tools are already at parents disposal to take steps to prevent children seeing porn but most seem to lazy to do it. (parental control internet/OS programs)

Another act of the government taking choices and responsibilities away from parents.