Unpopular Gaming Opinions
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The Wind Waker is my favorite Zelda game, and the art style and story were leagues above Twilight Princess. (I still love Ocarina, but I played it to death. Link to the Past was OK.)
HALO: Reach was the best HALO game in the series by miles. ODST would be the runner up.
The Elder Scrolls are all horribly overrated. The world of Morrowind was interesting, but the game wasn't very fun. Skill based leveling doesn't work very well in my opinion, especially when monsters scale with you (yeah, I'm talking to YOU, Oblivion). Skyrim was NOT the RPG to rule all others; it wasn't even a very fun game.
Dark Souls > Skyrim in every aspect except marketing hype and graphics (I prefer DS art style, though).
GTA4 is one of the worst games I've played this generation. I made it about halfway through the story, but even that was a chore.
I also loved Bulletstorm, but thought it could have been better.
Diablo 1 is still the best in the series.
HALO: Reach was the best HALO game in the series by miles. ODST would be the runner up.
The Elder Scrolls are all horribly overrated. The world of Morrowind was interesting, but the game wasn't very fun. Skill based leveling doesn't work very well in my opinion, especially when monsters scale with you (yeah, I'm talking to YOU, Oblivion). Skyrim was NOT the RPG to rule all others; it wasn't even a very fun game.
Dark Souls > Skyrim in every aspect except marketing hype and graphics (I prefer DS art style, though).
GTA4 is one of the worst games I've played this generation. I made it about halfway through the story, but even that was a chore.
I also loved Bulletstorm, but thought it could have been better.
Diablo 1 is still the best in the series.
-Consoles are trying to be crappy PC's;
-Ubisoft is just as bad as Activision and EA;
-I think MGS4 is the best game of all time;
-Crysis is one of the best shooters of all time;
-God of War III is an amazing experience;
-Gears of War and Halo are both pretty good, but not great;
-The GTA-series are average at best;
-Call of Duty is a great series, but will not appeal to anyone because of it's design choices;
-However, I would like the old shooters to come back;
-The mainstream Batman games have clunky, mostly-not functioning combat;
-Dragon Age: Origin(s), LIMBO, VVVVVV, Borderlands, NFS: Hot Pursuit and Magicka are among the worst games I've ever played in my life (no, seriously);
-Any competitive game: Why would you play a game where your opponent senses you will come out at a certain point and can predict with perfect accuracy when to shoot?
-Free to Play games are beyond bad;
-I don't like any of Nintendo's franchises;
-I don't mind bad graphics;
...and there are so many more.
-Ubisoft is just as bad as Activision and EA;
-I think MGS4 is the best game of all time;
-Crysis is one of the best shooters of all time;
-God of War III is an amazing experience;
-Gears of War and Halo are both pretty good, but not great;
-The GTA-series are average at best;
-Call of Duty is a great series, but will not appeal to anyone because of it's design choices;
-However, I would like the old shooters to come back;
-The mainstream Batman games have clunky, mostly-not functioning combat;
-Dragon Age: Origin(s), LIMBO, VVVVVV, Borderlands, NFS: Hot Pursuit and Magicka are among the worst games I've ever played in my life (no, seriously);
-Any competitive game: Why would you play a game where your opponent senses you will come out at a certain point and can predict with perfect accuracy when to shoot?
-Free to Play games are beyond bad;
-I don't like any of Nintendo's franchises;
-I don't mind bad graphics;
...and there are so many more.
Looking through this thread, I see the following things:
Fallout 3 is better than New Vegas;
New Vegas is better than Fallout 3;
Skyrim was better than Oblivion;
Oblivion was better than Skyrim;
Mass Effect was the worst game in the series;
Mass Effect was the best game in the series;
GTA IV was awful;
GTA IV was brilliant;
ME2 sucked;
ME2 was great;
Heavy Rain sucked;
We need more games like Heavy Rain.
Clearly, the only conclusion that can be drawn is that opinions are unpopular in gaming.
Fallout 3 is better than New Vegas;
New Vegas is better than Fallout 3;
Skyrim was better than Oblivion;
Oblivion was better than Skyrim;
Mass Effect was the worst game in the series;
Mass Effect was the best game in the series;
GTA IV was awful;
GTA IV was brilliant;
ME2 sucked;
ME2 was great;
Heavy Rain sucked;
We need more games like Heavy Rain.
Clearly, the only conclusion that can be drawn is that opinions are unpopular in gaming.
The best you can say is that gamers' opinions are inconsistent. That this thread is five pages and that every other gamer seems to be an amateur reviewer and that gamers listen to reviews at all suggests that opinions about games, as inconsistent as they may be, are, in fact, very popular.Redingold said:
-Dragon Age 2 was a good game, even with its glaring flaws.
-The Halo series doesn't get enough credit amongst critics.
-Final Fantasy 7 isn't even in the top 5 of the best Final Fantasy games (Tactics 1 is the #1 for me).
-KOTOR II was better then the first.
-Paradox games complexity is over stated.
-MovieBob is the best contribute on this site.
-The Halo series doesn't get enough credit amongst critics.
-Final Fantasy 7 isn't even in the top 5 of the best Final Fantasy games (Tactics 1 is the #1 for me).
-KOTOR II was better then the first.
-Paradox games complexity is over stated.
-MovieBob is the best contribute on this site.
The conclusion I draw is that the people here aren't the unique flowers they all think they are. This is all the common stuff that usually divides us. Nothing new, nothing fascinating.Redingold said:
We won't see an unpopular opinion by Escapists' standards until someone comes out and says all games suck and all gamers are losers. And that is not an unpopular opinion in the wider world either.
I like Raiden. I don't see why people hate him. The only reason I can see is that he is not an emotionless, psychotic killing machine, which I don't think is a bad thing. Plus, he was badass in MGS4
I like Metroid Other M. Even though the characterisation of Samus was terrible, some of the story threads were interesting and I genuinely enjoy the gameplay.
I like Metroid Other M. Even though the characterisation of Samus was terrible, some of the story threads were interesting and I genuinely enjoy the gameplay.
*Super Mario 2 (old) was the most fun I have ever had with a platformer -multiple playable characters, each with distinctly different handling, people didn't like it because Mario looked like a generic chump next to Luigi's mad jumping skills and peach's floating.
*FF7 only holds its position in legend because of the jump in graphics and cut scenes that blew our minds at the time.
*Secret of Mana is the best game Square ever put out, and is the only "jrpg" I've played that didn't feel like I was navigating Office menus that all result in the same crappy .wav file.
*Dragon Wars had the best rpg plot I've ever played, awesome take on the Enuma Elish.
*Wing Commander: Privateer has done open world better than 99% of all open world games, side with any faction you want, side with none of them, smuggle, trade, explore, all with no end.
*First person "platforming" is WHY mirror's edge is one of the best games ever released, the idea of a third person version of that..god help us all.
*Black Ops doesn't need any maps but jungle, nuketown, and firing range, in fact I could be happy with just jungle.
*XCOM 1&2 were probably the pinnacle of tactical strategy, and while it makes me a little sad we won't get a new one, I am happy we aren't getting a half-assed attempt but rather an fps with its name.
*Shadowrun (Xbox 360) like above, I expected an RPG like SNES & Sega versions, but still think of it as the most fun counterstrike mod I've ever played.
*Bioware games are interesting, but the inability to jump really destroys my ability to get into it.
*FF7 only holds its position in legend because of the jump in graphics and cut scenes that blew our minds at the time.
*Secret of Mana is the best game Square ever put out, and is the only "jrpg" I've played that didn't feel like I was navigating Office menus that all result in the same crappy .wav file.
*Dragon Wars had the best rpg plot I've ever played, awesome take on the Enuma Elish.
*Wing Commander: Privateer has done open world better than 99% of all open world games, side with any faction you want, side with none of them, smuggle, trade, explore, all with no end.
*First person "platforming" is WHY mirror's edge is one of the best games ever released, the idea of a third person version of that..god help us all.
*Black Ops doesn't need any maps but jungle, nuketown, and firing range, in fact I could be happy with just jungle.
*XCOM 1&2 were probably the pinnacle of tactical strategy, and while it makes me a little sad we won't get a new one, I am happy we aren't getting a half-assed attempt but rather an fps with its name.
*Shadowrun (Xbox 360) like above, I expected an RPG like SNES & Sega versions, but still think of it as the most fun counterstrike mod I've ever played.
*Bioware games are interesting, but the inability to jump really destroys my ability to get into it.
The final fantasy series is kind of crap.
Uncharted isn't the second coming of christ.
LA Rush wasn't awful
Uncharted isn't the second coming of christ.
LA Rush wasn't awful
-Console RTSs are fine. I will never be as good with a controller as I am with the keyboard, and I'm OK with that. It shifts the formula a little bit, just like playing shooters with a controller does.
-Halo Wars killed the console RTS, not the other way around, along with my last hope of ever playing strategy with my real life friends. It was far and away the worst of the well known console RTSs. It was a stripped down, broad appeal, lowest denominator, hollowed out shell of a game. It had the worst controls by a mile. But everyone just assumed it would be the best entry in the genre and took it on faith that it was for no reason at all except that it's Halo. The escapist's review said that if Halo Wars wasn't a good RTS, it proved that console RTSs can't be good. I saw this sentiment repeated all over the place. Why? Does Michael Bay prove films can't be good?
-Halo: Combat Evolved was an excellent shooter for it's time and can't be blamed for everything that ripped it off without understanding why it worked. I know that's not an unpopular opinion, but it has a stigma. If I think Halo: Combat Evolved was good I'm obviously a twelve year old brat screaming racial slurs over Xbox LIVE who just doesn't possess the years and sophistication to appreciate Half Life.
-Halo: Reach is the best Halo since the original and the only subsequent entry that seems to understand what made the first one good. Story execution aside, of course.
-ODST worked very well on it's own and as a spin-off, despite the scandalous price and very odd design choices in Firefight mode.
People say having a few units is better than throwing away masses of them, but that's not what good players do. Good players are very fun to watch. They're always avoiding contact, afraid to lose that one unit. They dance around and around looking for that little opening or advantage. Tossing tons of units into a meat grinder sounds like what new players do at the end of a one hour no rush game because they don't know how to take advantage of the tools at their disposal. Having lots of elements and a robust economy in play creates a place for complicated strategies, meaningful choice, diverse gameplay, and individual style.
I'm not even an advanced strategy player, I just think DoW II is tragically boring. I'm not saying that type of game is for dummies, I'm just agreeing with you that they are more like action games.
-Halo Wars killed the console RTS, not the other way around, along with my last hope of ever playing strategy with my real life friends. It was far and away the worst of the well known console RTSs. It was a stripped down, broad appeal, lowest denominator, hollowed out shell of a game. It had the worst controls by a mile. But everyone just assumed it would be the best entry in the genre and took it on faith that it was for no reason at all except that it's Halo. The escapist's review said that if Halo Wars wasn't a good RTS, it proved that console RTSs can't be good. I saw this sentiment repeated all over the place. Why? Does Michael Bay prove films can't be good?
-Halo: Combat Evolved was an excellent shooter for it's time and can't be blamed for everything that ripped it off without understanding why it worked. I know that's not an unpopular opinion, but it has a stigma. If I think Halo: Combat Evolved was good I'm obviously a twelve year old brat screaming racial slurs over Xbox LIVE who just doesn't possess the years and sophistication to appreciate Half Life.
-Halo: Reach is the best Halo since the original and the only subsequent entry that seems to understand what made the first one good. Story execution aside, of course.
-ODST worked very well on it's own and as a spin-off, despite the scandalous price and very odd design choices in Firefight mode.
I agree with that one completely. I really like strategy games and I don't like the small roster of AAA titles we do get being dominated by "tactical" games. In Age of Empires III I can win with a clever strategy or one I have perfected, or by staying one step ahead of my opponent. If I lose it's because my 700 Gold Fast Fortress wasn't turtley enough to give me the time I needed to win the advantage over their Double Rax Colonial Rush. If they invest too much in a forward base and I find it in time, GG crymore. If they wipe out my whole base, they better not rely on that and get cocky while I have some villies left. Dawn of War II is clickclickclickclickclickclick.Bostur said:
People say having a few units is better than throwing away masses of them, but that's not what good players do. Good players are very fun to watch. They're always avoiding contact, afraid to lose that one unit. They dance around and around looking for that little opening or advantage. Tossing tons of units into a meat grinder sounds like what new players do at the end of a one hour no rush game because they don't know how to take advantage of the tools at their disposal. Having lots of elements and a robust economy in play creates a place for complicated strategies, meaningful choice, diverse gameplay, and individual style.
I'm not even an advanced strategy player, I just think DoW II is tragically boring. I'm not saying that type of game is for dummies, I'm just agreeing with you that they are more like action games.
Thinking something is pretty good but also wildly overrated puts you in an awkward position, I find. It happens to me over and over again that I find game elements I have long considered standard suddenly become praiseworthy and innovative.
That the Kinect is actually sort of fun, assuming that it can tell where I am because I stepped an inch away.
That every FF game after X wasn't too awful. I mean, X was annoying, but I still liked it. The second game, which not alot of people have played, actually, was where I thought the series was turning sour but it eventually picked up somewhere around XIII.
That The Legend of Zelda: TOoT is shit compared to its sequel, Majora's Mask.
And that I preffered COD game when they actually had a story and didn't just make up wars where the Taliban, Russians, or anyone with a European accent was automatically a target.
That Runescape doesn't look like puke caped in shit smeared with garbage custard then covered in swamp water, then covered in hot piping chilli when fed to a chicken and the result of the fecal matter being caught in a bucket.
That every FF game after X wasn't too awful. I mean, X was annoying, but I still liked it. The second game, which not alot of people have played, actually, was where I thought the series was turning sour but it eventually picked up somewhere around XIII.
That The Legend of Zelda: TOoT is shit compared to its sequel, Majora's Mask.
And that I preffered COD game when they actually had a story and didn't just make up wars where the Taliban, Russians, or anyone with a European accent was automatically a target.
That Runescape doesn't look like puke caped in shit smeared with garbage custard then covered in swamp water, then covered in hot piping chilli when fed to a chicken and the result of the fecal matter being caught in a bucket.
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