UP is wonderful, Up is emotional, UP is....racist?

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Jarcin

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Was watching http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GroDErHIM_0, enjoying the pleasantries of one of my favorite Pixar movies to date now, when I found fun comments of one "renegade419"

Yall got to be kidding me, This is the most racist movie and end of amerikkka plots ever made. And its a Award winning Best Picture....f*** outta here. Disney racist as f***.
Dug the Dog sees the white man Carl and says "Will you be my MASTER"....do i need to explain who Dug is? Throughout the film he keeps calling Carl "Master" do i really need to say who Dug represents? This nig*** Dug wants to leave his "Dogs" led by Alpha (a strong looking Dog w/ a Mike Tyson voice) and his old Master Muntz. Me being a black man u see why dat part really pisses me off, we are Dogs REALLY, calling you Master REALLY. F*** outta here I got more reasons why
what kind of meesage is what it sends to kids is what bothers me, all of our lives Disney movies made it seem like blk ppl didnt exsist until Princess & Frog when the black princess is a frog throughout the whole movie...yea rite. I got lil girls and i tell em about the bullshit Hollywood tries to put in our kids head.Ppl think im wrong now cuz i tell my lil girl aint no such thing as Santa Claus...so what...i'd give my kids the truth over a lie anyday...and this movie is joke.
"Zookeeper" Carl Fredrickson an old widower loses wife (eurocentric hold on N. amerikkka) to death. Frustrated w/urban development built around his home "the New Amerikkka" (Obama), refusing to sell his home he fights the construction worker and is forced to move out his home (foreclosure) put him in a home (white man losing his country drives him crazy), he had dreams w/ his wife to move to S. America (Paradise Falls...if i stayed in S.America i'd be offended)
start a new life, but a young Asian boy (Russell voiced by Japanesse actor Jordan Nagai) keeps knocking on his doors trying earn a merit badge "Assisting the Elderly" (China owning America, walks us across the street, makes all of our shit, got the money and power). Carl unleashes a bunch of ballons that lifts his house off the ground flies off w/ a "so long BOYS" to the black and hispanic nurses that was there to haul him off.
Getting away from it all Carl on his way to sit up high over S. America he feels free until guess who knocks at the door (Asia/china/N.korea) i mean Russell wants in. After disagreements and a thunderstorm (negiotiating ideas) they come to an agreement to work together once they reach Paradise Falls. There they meet a flightless bird (based on ppl of S.America) Russell names it Kevin (Kevin an Irish name means Kind Honest Handsome...PAUSE).
Tried to censor it the best I could, sorry if I missed parts.

I'm not one to be a big fan of symbolism. It's not that I don't like it and I do believe that somethings were ment to have them, but unless it's my job I like to take things like a good movie at face value and unless a symbol pops out at me I don't really look for it.

But I have seen this movie a few times...I saw hints of developmental change (an obvious one), the progression to better ones self (obviousish?), and resistance to change (very obvious)....but racism? It never really popped into my head.

What are your thoughts?

Just to add a bit more depth to this thread, what symbolism do you see in disney/pixar films you feel others might not see or agree with?
 
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Successful troll is successful.

Seriously, people these days will see "-isms" everywhere. Take a quick look at his writing and wonder why his references to "The White Man" aren't as racist as anything he "has seen".

Ignore, Report, Move on.
 

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Jarcin said:
Was watching http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GroDErHIM_0, enjoying the pleasantries of one of my favorite Pixar movies to date now, when I found fun comments of one "renegade419"

Yall got to be kidding me, This is the most racist movie and end of amerikkka plots ever made. And its a Award winning Best Picture....f*** outta here. Disney racist as f***.
Dug the Dog sees the white man Carl and says "Will you be my MASTER"....do i need to explain who Dug is? Throughout the film he keeps calling Carl "Master" do i really need to say who Dug represents? This nig*** Dug wants to leave his "Dogs" led by Alpha (a strong looking Dog w/ a Mike Tyson voice) and his old Master Muntz. Me being a black man u see why dat part really pisses me off, we are Dogs REALLY, calling you Master REALLY. F*** outta here I got more reasons why
what kind of meesage is what it sends to kids is what bothers me, all of our lives Disney movies made it seem like blk ppl didnt exsist until Princess & Frog when the black princess is a frog throughout the whole movie...yea rite. I got lil girls and i tell em about the bullshit Hollywood tries to put in our kids head.Ppl think im wrong now cuz i tell my lil girl aint no such thing as Santa Claus...so what...i'd give my kids the truth over a lie anyday...and this movie is joke.
"Zookeeper" Carl Fredrickson an old widower loses wife (eurocentric hold on N. amerikkka) to death. Frustrated w/urban development built around his home "the New Amerikkka" (Obama), refusing to sell his home he fights the construction worker and is forced to move out his home (foreclosure) put him in a home (white man losing his country drives him crazy), he had dreams w/ his wife to move to S. America (Paradise Falls...if i stayed in S.America i'd be offended)
start a new life, but a young Asian boy (Russell voiced by Japanesse actor Jordan Nagai) keeps knocking on his doors trying earn a merit badge "Assisting the Elderly" (China owning America, walks us across the street, makes all of our shit, got the money and power). Carl unleashes a bunch of ballons that lifts his house off the ground flies off w/ a "so long BOYS" to the black and hispanic nurses that was there to haul him off.
Getting away from it all Carl on his way to sit up high over S. America he feels free until guess who knocks at the door (Asia/china/N.korea) i mean Russell wants in. After disagreements and a thunderstorm (negiotiating ideas) they come to an agreement to work together once they reach Paradise Falls. There they meet a flightless bird (based on ppl of S.America) Russell names it Kevin (Kevin an Irish name means Kind Honest Handsome...PAUSE).
Tried to censor it the best I could, sorry if I missed parts.

I'm not one to be a big fan of symbolism. It's not that I don't like it and I do believe that somethings were ment to have them, but unless it's my job I like to take things like a good movie at face value and unless a symbol pops out at me I don't really look for it.

But I have seen this movie a few times...I saw hints of developmental change (an obvious one), the progression to better ones self (obviousish?), and resistance to change (very obvious)....but racism? It never really popped into my head.

What are your thoughts?

Just to add a bit more depth to this thread, what symbolism do you see in disney/pixar films you feel others might not see or agree with?
Hmmm I wonder why Doug the Dog would cal Carl "Master". Hmm is it because he's a DOG!
Ignore the mouth-breathing trolls cause thats all they are, reaching for straws that just dont exist. Up is a marvelous film but its definately not racist and don't let anyone who says otherwise ruin your experience.
 

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ahah wooooooooooooowwwwwwwwww. you guys think hes a troll, but if you paid attention he DISAGREES with the comments from youtube. Trolls are so quick to call people trolls for the sake of trollism.
 

Jarcin

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Well there was porn one time. That was pretty interesting....and a song about vegetable juice 0o

The troll seem so overpowered by the overpowered "DISNEY IS A RACIST" that it seemed like it was worth sharing
 

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DeathSnipa1992 said:
ahah wooooooooooooowwwwwwwwww. you guys think hes a troll, but if you paid attention he DISAGREES with the comments from youtube. Trolls are so quick to call people trolls for the sake of trollism.
if you paid attention, you'd see we're not calling him a troll, but we're calling the guy who made the comments a troll
 

Jarcin

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Why did they have to ruin UP though! Was bad enough people told me Alice in Wonderland was an acid trip...I was content in my head believing she just had an amazing dream
 

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tellmeimaninja said:
Humans have a natural talent for bullshitting, it seems.
I think giraffes are far more talented bullshitters than humans. Also bulls.
 

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Robert Gerhardt said:
being born white makes you racist, get with the times
don't forget it's gonna be "open season on the white guy" for a few years to come :/ guess whitey had it coming? yeah definately...but does it really do anything besides keep the cycle going?
 

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I can take any movie out there and make it a racist one, having said that, I haven't seen UP so I cant make a decision.
 
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Jarcin said:
Why did they have to ruin UP though! Was bad enough people told me Alice in Wonderland was an acid trip...I was content in my head believing she just had an amazing dream
Alice in Wonderland is actually just about mathematics. Lewis Carrol was straight edge.