Update: Activision "Might Have to Stop Supporting Sony"

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demoman_chaos

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I am surprised no one else came up with this conspiracy theory: MS might have just paid the guy to say that, like they spread rumors of PS3 price drops so people will hold out and not buy them.

Though $399 American isn't bad. The 360 Elite (which most go for) is $399. The PS3 also gives you more for your money (blu-ray of course, Wi-Fi, bluetooth, etc.), and a lot of those extra features MS makes you pay for. If you got an average 360 ($300 one), you would have to buy Live for a year, Wi-Fi adapter, you can still buy HDDVD drive add-ons (MS makes them, though no one makes HDDVDs), and more stuff I can't remember at the moment. Total Cost would take you over the PS3's price tag. Value vs starting cost is what it boils down to.

I do think they should release a patch or something for backwards compatability, it has nothing to do with the drive itself (or any other hardware), just an emulator-like software environment they already had at one point.
 

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I can understand where he's coming from. If Sony don't announce price cuts, then people don't buy the console or the games, and he loses the millions of dollars he's invested into the PS3 and PSP. It's all a business decision. I've been thinking about Sony lately, and how that if they don't start looking through rose-tinted glasses, they might have a dead console on their hands.

It's a sad truth.
I guess you didn't see E3 then.
 

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murphy7801 said:
SODAssault said:
Now that is what I call a shit-eating grin.
wow and you never looked bad in a photo, have got suddenly insult someone for no reason.
Shit-eating grin:

(1) n. A shit eating grin is a very wide and, to the outside observer, stupid looking grin, usually showing smugness, self-satisfaction, or inner humor. The term is most often seen in the expression "Wipe that shit eating grin off your face!", usually said by the aforementioned outside observer. This observer-based definition makes "shit eating grin" the negative counterpart to "You look like the cat who ate the canary." While the two expressions describe the same grin, they have very different connotations. This definition has nothing to do with the term "shit eater".

(2) n. Someone donning a forced smile in an uncomfortable, embarassing, or compromising situation could be said to have a shit eating grin. Because an uncomfortable situation is much more closely related to "eating shit" than smugness, it is plausible to assume that this is the first definition, although far from the most common, and that the above definition is a result of drift from this one.

Source: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=shit+eating+grin

Try to educate yourself to the words being used before you start crying foul play.
 

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murphy7801 said:
NoMoreSanity said:
While Kotick does have a good point, this is a little too far. If Activision did stop releasing games for Sony, it could be a critical hit with no Guitar Hero, or Call of Duty. I don't believe that they have the balls to go through with it though, the fanboys will go even more batshit insane over it than FF13 coming to 360.
And the metal gear 360 release.
Yeah its not like it's coming out on the PC and PS3 also. OH WAIT!! I mean seriously can you even name any 360 exclusives that this years E3? I don't see any 360 games in the future that I'm looking forward to cause their only 2 exclusives are some recycled halo games. Yeah and sonys the one in trouble.
 

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Awesome. If the PS3 dies, then my system becomes even more collectible. Not too mention, system games will likely fall in price offering a cheap boost to my selection.

I'm detecting shenanigans from Sony here more. Likely trying to rubber band this: waiting until things are right about to snap, then releasing. Of course, one can't help but wonder that IF a price cut comes will it be before any interest in the system has completely died?
 

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demoman_chaos said:
I am surprised no one else came up with this conspiracy theory: MS might have just paid the guy to say that, like they spread rumors of PS3 price drops so people will hold out and not buy them.

Though $399 American isn't bad. The 360 Elite (which most go for) is $399. The PS3 also gives you more for your money (blu-ray of course, Wi-Fi, bluetooth, etc.), and a lot of those extra features MS makes you pay for. If you got an average 360 ($300 one), you would have to buy Live for a year, Wi-Fi adapter
One of my friends from work was just talking about this. He picked up an Xbox 360 and went walking toward the counter to check out, then he thought to read the box. When he said he found out that there was no wireless adapter, and that it would cost him an extra ONE HUNDRED DOLLARS, he was stunned.

Needless to say, he didn't buy it. He's now considering PS3.
 

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bue519 said:
murphy7801 said:
NoMoreSanity said:
While Kotick does have a good point, this is a little too far. If Activision did stop releasing games for Sony, it could be a critical hit with no Guitar Hero, or Call of Duty. I don't believe that they have the balls to go through with it though, the fanboys will go even more batshit insane over it than FF13 coming to 360.
And the metal gear 360 release.
Yeah its not like it's coming out on the PC and PS3 also. OH WAIT!! I mean seriously can you even name any 360 exclusives that this years E3? I don't see any 360 games in the future that I'm looking forward to cause their only 2 exclusives are some recycled halo games. Yeah and sonys the one in trouble.
Yes there debt issues and high cost to develop games for the system are a little worrying.
 

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Krakyn said:
demoman_chaos said:
I am surprised no one else came up with this conspiracy theory: MS might have just paid the guy to say that, like they spread rumors of PS3 price drops so people will hold out and not buy them.

Though $399 American isn't bad. The 360 Elite (which most go for) is $399. The PS3 also gives you more for your money (blu-ray of course, Wi-Fi, bluetooth, etc.), and a lot of those extra features MS makes you pay for. If you got an average 360 ($300 one), you would have to buy Live for a year, Wi-Fi adapter
One of my friends from work was just talking about this. He picked up an Xbox 360 and went walking toward the counter to check out, then he thought to read the box. When he said he found out that there was no wireless adapter, and that it would cost him an extra ONE HUNDRED DOLLARS, he was stunned.

Needless to say, he didn't buy it. He's now considering PS3.
Or he could just buy a longer cord for like $10.
 

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...*sigh*

looks like the Anti-Sony hate boat has set sail again, seems to be whenever sony starts to pick up its game, the mud start getting flung around (again) and they're always absurd nitpicks as well (anything from dead pixels on a PSP to fap hand disease)....

this guy at activision is an idiot. sure, do it activision, kill your sony fanbase. eventually sony will drop their prices, and then you would have cut off a sizable percentage of your fanbase. your sales will be hurt not sony's we don't need umpteen rock band games. CoD will be missed. tony hawk not so much the new peripheral looks nice but not enough to buy yet another Tony Hawk game....i say piss off activision you wont be missed by me at least.

One of my friends from work was just talking about this. He picked up an Xbox 360 and went walking toward the counter to check out, then he thought to read the box. When he said he found out that there was no wireless adapter, and that it would cost him an extra ONE HUNDRED DOLLARS, he was stunned.

Needless to say, he didn't buy it. He's now considering PS3.
the price of the ps3 is an overated myth, to get the xbox to near the functionality of the ps3 your only going to spend an less $30-$50 than the price of a standard ps3 oh and i'd clearly pay $30-$50 call it the RROD avoindance warranty -plus why is nobody questioning MS about the price drop for Live? it should be free,
 

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CantFaketheFunk said:
I don't see that as exploiting gamers at all. Microtransactions are increasingly becoming a common way to help fund development in an environment where piracy is rampant and games are becoming more and more expensive to develop for.
That also makes it hard to believe this guy is really going to give up on another network to sell $2 songs off of.

Not to go off topic but that is exploiting gamers. They are exploiting those of us who don't pirate and just go to the store and buy legitimate hardware and software hoping that we will make up for the (perhaps smarter) gamers who do things illegally. And it's not just Actavision, a lot of publishers do it. That's why every little car in Burnout and every little costume in LBP irks me.

It's why I usually don't buy dlc: why should I pay extra for little costumes, songs, and cars when I already pay plenty for the game to begin with; and I know development costs have gone up but so have game prices. They need to find a way to stop or make money out of piracy rather than taking it out on the legitimate gamers who already give them plenty of their hard earned cash. Otherwise, there's just going to be more and more incentive for us to turn to piracy.
 

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It's a strange turn of events if this actually happens. Despite not owning a PS3, I've always said that I hope Sony do well, because games are best when created in the heat of competition. But a major developer/publisher dropping support? Sounds kinda like Squaresoft ditching the Nintendo 64, and EA flipping off the Dreamcast. If even one major developer says no to a console, it's usually not a good thing.
 

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jebussaves88 said:
It's a strange turn of events if this actually happens. Despite not owning a PS3, I've always said that I hope Sony do well, because games are best when created in the heat of competition. But a major developer/publisher dropping support? Sounds kinda like Squaresoft ditching the Nintendo 64, and EA flipping off the Dreamcast. If even one major developer says no to a console, it's usually not a good thing.
agreed and valve are doing the same by the sounds of it admittedly there not as big but not a good indicator.
 

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I think I said it once here bu I will say again.

SOny should have launched the PS with God of War 3, Final Fantasy 13 and Gran Turismo 5.

They should have launched the PS3 with a killer line up from the start. Not bring in the heavy guns 2-3 years late, when the damage is already done.
 

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bue519 said:
murphy7801 said:
NoMoreSanity said:
While Kotick does have a good point, this is a little too far. If Activision did stop releasing games for Sony, it could be a critical hit with no Guitar Hero, or Call of Duty. I don't believe that they have the balls to go through with it though, the fanboys will go even more batshit insane over it than FF13 coming to 360.
And the metal gear 360 release.
Yeah its not like it's coming out on the PC and PS3 also. OH WAIT!! I mean seriously can you even name any 360 exclusives that this years E3? I don't see any 360 games in the future that I'm looking forward to cause their only 2 exclusives are some recycled halo games. Yeah and sonys the one in trouble.
Oh noes 1 person doesn't like MS's lineup. I bet you got them shaking in their boots right now. Also who cares if it is on the PC and the 360? Call it exclusive or don't. Whatever you call it the bottom line is Sony doesn't get them. And if these great games are on the PC as well great for the devs, great for PC gamers, sucks for Sony.
 

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Onmi said:
oliveira8 said:
I think I said it once here bu I will say again.

SOny should have launched the PS with God of War 3, Final Fantasy 13 and Gran Turismo 5.

They should have launched the PS3 with a killer line up from the start. Not bring in the heavy guns 2-3 years late, when the damage is already done.
Wouldn't that have required WAITING 2-3 years for those to be created? either they would have been lackluster titles or the release date would have been 3 years behind.
In an IDEAL world it would have released with them

At the Update: Seriously your (i'm assuming sarcasticly) upset that they just respect how the third party feels instead of saying "Well go on do it!"
sadly would have taken that long to make those games.
 

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So far, I've seen the biggest fanboi on the site arguing with an editor, and the rest of the Sony fanbois trying to say that this is a Sony hatefest sponsored by Microsoft while only seeing a few posts of people essentially singing "sing, dong the witch is dead!"

Stop mucking up a new post with your damn fanboi crap.

murphy7801 said:
Onmi said:
oliveira8 said:
I think I said it once here bu I will say again.

SOny should have launched the PS with God of War 3, Final Fantasy 13 and Gran Turismo 5.

They should have launched the PS3 with a killer line up from the start. Not bring in the heavy guns 2-3 years late, when the damage is already done.
Wouldn't that have required WAITING 2-3 years for those to be created? either they would have been lackluster titles or the release date would have been 3 years behind.
In an IDEAL world it would have released with them

At the Update: Seriously your (i'm assuming sarcasticly) upset that they just respect how the third party feels instead of saying "Well go on do it!"
sadly would have taken that long to make those games.
Wouldn't have taken so long if Sony had released the devkit farther out from the release of the PS3, I think I saw an announcement about it getting handed to devs maybe 6 months before system release to "protect our hardware from piracy."
 

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Krakyn said:
One of my friends from work was just talking about this. He picked up an Xbox 360 and went walking toward the counter to check out, then he thought to read the box. When he said he found out that there was no wireless adapter, and that it would cost him an extra ONE HUNDRED DOLLARS, he was stunned.

Needless to say, he didn't buy it. He's now considering PS3.
So that means that any 360 besides the Arcade, plus the Wi-Fi adapter is just as expensive as a PS3 (I didn't know the Wi-Fi thing was $100, I was thinking it would be $20 since Wi-Fi routers aren't much more than that). After paying for Live, you have passed the PS3 in price.
I am farily certain most 360 owners get the Wi-Fi adapter because running and ethernet cord from your router/modem is not always practical and usually invovles holes in the floor and a lot of cable (if you can't do it yourself, installation costs are gonna be insane).

The price difference is now officialy nil. Thank you.