Update: Activision "Might Have to Stop Supporting Sony"

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squid5580 said:
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While Kotick does have a good point, this is a little too far. If Activision did stop releasing games for Sony, it could be a critical hit with no Guitar Hero, or Call of Duty. I don't believe that they have the balls to go through with it though, the fanboys will go even more batshit insane over it than FF13 coming to 360.
And the metal gear 360 release.
Yeah its not like it's coming out on the PC and PS3 also. OH WAIT!! I mean seriously can you even name any 360 exclusives that this years E3? I don't see any 360 games in the future that I'm looking forward to cause their only 2 exclusives are some recycled halo games. Yeah and sonys the one in trouble.
Oh noes 1 person doesn't like MS's lineup. I bet you got them shaking in their boots right now. Also who cares if it is on the PC and the 360? Call it exclusive or don't. Whatever you call it the bottom line is Sony doesn't get them. And if these great games are on the PC as well great for the devs, great for PC gamers, sucks for Sony.
Ummm Sony is getting the MGS at the same time the 360 is. So whats your argument or point?
 

murphy7801

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squid5580 said:
murphy7801 said:
squid5580 said:
bue519 said:
murphy7801 said:
NoMoreSanity said:
While Kotick does have a good point, this is a little too far. If Activision did stop releasing games for Sony, it could be a critical hit with no Guitar Hero, or Call of Duty. I don't believe that they have the balls to go through with it though, the fanboys will go even more batshit insane over it than FF13 coming to 360.
And the metal gear 360 release.
Yeah its not like it's coming out on the PC and PS3 also. OH WAIT!! I mean seriously can you even name any 360 exclusives that this years E3? I don't see any 360 games in the future that I'm looking forward to cause their only 2 exclusives are some recycled halo games. Yeah and sonys the one in trouble.
Oh noes 1 person doesn't like MS's lineup. I bet you got them shaking in their boots right now. Also who cares if it is on the PC and the 360? Call it exclusive or don't. Whatever you call it the bottom line is Sony doesn't get them. And if these great games are on the PC as well great for the devs, great for PC gamers, sucks for Sony.
I don't care I thought people were bothered obviously I was wrong.
I am bothered. At the same time I can't feel sorry for Sony. I want Sony to do well. I want them to make me want to buy their console. Maybe this will finally be the wake up call for them to pull thier heads out of thier asses and listen to the market. It just seems to me Sony has been trying to ride the PS2 success and figure that as long as SONY is in the name it is guaranteed to sell.

I suppose it doesn't help that the net is filled with Sony fanboys who just stroke said egos. Ask them they will tell you Sony can do no wrong.
Fair enough I just wanted a reasonable discussion on this because the business aspects and the tech aspects are to my interest and knowledge.
 

murphy7801

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bue519 said:
squid5580 said:
bue519 said:
murphy7801 said:
NoMoreSanity said:
While Kotick does have a good point, this is a little too far. If Activision did stop releasing games for Sony, it could be a critical hit with no Guitar Hero, or Call of Duty. I don't believe that they have the balls to go through with it though, the fanboys will go even more batshit insane over it than FF13 coming to 360.
And the metal gear 360 release.
Yeah its not like it's coming out on the PC and PS3 also. OH WAIT!! I mean seriously can you even name any 360 exclusives that this years E3? I don't see any 360 games in the future that I'm looking forward to cause their only 2 exclusives are some recycled halo games. Yeah and sonys the one in trouble.
Oh noes 1 person doesn't like MS's lineup. I bet you got them shaking in their boots right now. Also who cares if it is on the PC and the 360? Call it exclusive or don't. Whatever you call it the bottom line is Sony doesn't get them. And if these great games are on the PC as well great for the devs, great for PC gamers, sucks for Sony.
Ummm Sony is getting the MGS at the same time the 360 is. So whats your argument or point?
I thought some people where bothered by fact mgs is no longer an exclusive obviously not.
 

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murphy7801 said:
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One of my friends from work was just talking about this. He picked up an Xbox 360 and went walking toward the counter to check out, then he thought to read the box. When he said he found out that there was no wireless adapter, and that it would cost him an extra ONE HUNDRED DOLLARS, he was stunned.

Needless to say, he didn't buy it. He's now considering PS3.
So that means that any 360 besides the Arcade, plus the Wi-Fi adapter is just as expensive as a PS3 (I didn't know the Wi-Fi thing was $100, I was thinking it would be $20 since Wi-Fi routers aren't much more than that). After paying for Live, you have passed the PS3 in price.
I am farily certain most 360 owners get the Wi-Fi adapter because running and ethernet cord from your router/modem is not always practical and usually invovles holes in the floor and a lot of cable (if you can't do it yourself, installation costs are gonna be insane).

The price difference is now officialy nil. Thank you.
It inst in the UK 360 elite is £229.99 and the wireless adapter is £44.99 a ps3 is 299.99 buy itself.
How much is the regular 360? That's what we were using for our comparison before. Is the regular 360 + wireless adapter more than the PS3 too? Because then constant callouts for the PS3 to cut their price would be ridiculous (though I feel they already are because the Elite is the console the 360 should've been, without the RROD and stuff).
regular £189.99 so added the wireless adapter and only comes too 234.98 ps3 is £299.99 bit of a difference.
I'm not talking about the arcade model, I'm talking about the standard. The arcade model shouldn't even be a system.

Onmi said:
Well this depends, do you consider the cheapest 360 (The arcade version) to be the comparison or the standard model? because most people compare he normal PS3 to the Arcade 360 when I feel it should be standard for both. the Elite being the latest in the 360 line up also has me point that IT should be the deciding one because... well when we look at the PS2 do we look at the slim or fat? the Slim one cause it's the latest.
See above.
 

bue519

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murphy7801 said:
bue519 said:
squid5580 said:
bue519 said:
murphy7801 said:
NoMoreSanity said:
While Kotick does have a good point, this is a little too far. If Activision did stop releasing games for Sony, it could be a critical hit with no Guitar Hero, or Call of Duty. I don't believe that they have the balls to go through with it though, the fanboys will go even more batshit insane over it than FF13 coming to 360.
And the metal gear 360 release.
Yeah its not like it's coming out on the PC and PS3 also. OH WAIT!! I mean seriously can you even name any 360 exclusives that this years E3? I don't see any 360 games in the future that I'm looking forward to cause their only 2 exclusives are some recycled halo games. Yeah and sonys the one in trouble.
Oh noes 1 person doesn't like MS's lineup. I bet you got them shaking in their boots right now. Also who cares if it is on the PC and the 360? Call it exclusive or don't. Whatever you call it the bottom line is Sony doesn't get them. And if these great games are on the PC as well great for the devs, great for PC gamers, sucks for Sony.
Ummm Sony is getting the MGS at the same time the 360 is. So whats your argument or point?
I thought some people where bothered by fact mgs is no longer an exclusive obviously not.
Well, personally I view it as a game is a game, not matter what console its for. Besides, I look forward to seeing some mod tools the pc version. (though that probably won't happen)
 

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This is a sort of death knell for the PS3 in my view... A CEO of a major publisher making a statement like that is unprecedented in the industry, and should be a wake up call to Sony.

Also, the picture of that dude really creeps me out.... and I read Lovecraft for fun, for god's sake!
 

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murphy7801 said:
I thought some people where bothered by fact mgs is no longer an exclusive obviously not.
Konami is a company that knows to code for the PS3, so I'm positive it's going to look better on the system I own. I'm not bothered at all, and I'm not happy that the 360 will get worse graphics. I feel bad for them.
 

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Krakyn said:
murphy7801 said:
Krakyn said:
murphy7801 said:
demoman_chaos said:
Krakyn said:
One of my friends from work was just talking about this. He picked up an Xbox 360 and went walking toward the counter to check out, then he thought to read the box. When he said he found out that there was no wireless adapter, and that it would cost him an extra ONE HUNDRED DOLLARS, he was stunned.

Needless to say, he didn't buy it. He's now considering PS3.
So that means that any 360 besides the Arcade, plus the Wi-Fi adapter is just as expensive as a PS3 (I didn't know the Wi-Fi thing was $100, I was thinking it would be $20 since Wi-Fi routers aren't much more than that). After paying for Live, you have passed the PS3 in price.
I am farily certain most 360 owners get the Wi-Fi adapter because running and ethernet cord from your router/modem is not always practical and usually invovles holes in the floor and a lot of cable (if you can't do it yourself, installation costs are gonna be insane).

The price difference is now officialy nil. Thank you.
It inst in the UK 360 elite is £229.99 and the wireless adapter is £44.99 a ps3 is 299.99 buy itself.
How much is the regular 360? That's what we were using for our comparison before. Is the regular 360 + wireless adapter more than the PS3 too? Because then constant callouts for the PS3 to cut their price would be ridiculous (though I feel they already are because the Elite is the console the 360 should've been, without the RROD and stuff).
regular £189.99 so added the wireless adapter and only comes too 234.98 ps3 is £299.99 bit of a difference.
I'm not talking about the arcade model, I'm talking about the standard. The arcade model shouldn't even be a system.

Onmi said:
Well this depends, do you consider the cheapest 360 (The arcade version) to be the comparison or the standard model? because most people compare he normal PS3 to the Arcade 360 when I feel it should be standard for both. the Elite being the latest in the 360 line up also has me point that IT should be the deciding one because... well when we look at the PS2 do we look at the slim or fat? the Slim one cause it's the latest.
See above.
The premium is 169.99 sorry new price drop.
 

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Yog Sothoth said:
This is a sort of death knell for the PS3 in my view... A CEO of a major publisher making a statement like that is unprecedented in the industry, and should be a wake up call to Sony.
As people have said already, the 360 elite is the same price as the PS3. That's without a wireless adapter. If you get a standard with a wireless adapter, it's the same price as a PS3.

I don't know what Sony should wake up and do...lose money?
 

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Onmi said:
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Onmi said:
Except to- ya know- be the bigger man in this situation "We wont resort to name calling or threats, if Activision doesn't like the way we do buisness and try to threaten us then we are sorry to see them go" but then they inevitably have people calling them pussies.

There is no WINNING for sony only various degrees of doing something and getting shouted at (Seriously I think someone will find a problem with the fact Sony uses the PS3 to aid in the cure for cancer)
You mean Sony is trying to AVOID a PR gaffe?!
That would be something.
Theres a difference with someone giving Kaz Hirai a Mic and letting him run his mouth then the COMPANY actually saying something.

I do like to point out that all negative PR is Kaz Hirai saying something stupid so I personaly just ignore his existence, and Sony must have put duck tape over his mouth.
You're probably right. They already got rid of Phil Harrison: I think he was the most annoying.
Maybe even more annoying than Kaz.
 

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Krakyn said:
murphy7801 said:
I thought some people where bothered by fact mgs is no longer an exclusive obviously not.
Konami is a company that knows to code for the PS3, so I'm positive it's going to look better on the system I own. I'm not bothered at all, and I'm not happy that the 360 will get worse graphics. I feel bad for them.
probably not there both made on pcs and 360 is alot like a pc but the ps3 hows more power so it will hopefully look better.