Upsetting Trends That Bother You
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People who minimize things.
Them: The Wall Street protests will die off quickly
Me: uh...they are growing by the day
Them: Well, most of them don't even know why they are out there
Me: That has nothing to do with whether the protests will grow or die off
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Someone: I am not buying Diablo III because of the DRM
Them: Boycotts never work, you'll buy it
Someone: No, I won't buy it
Them: Doesn't matter, millions of other people will
Them: The Wall Street protests will die off quickly
Me: uh...they are growing by the day
Them: Well, most of them don't even know why they are out there
Me: That has nothing to do with whether the protests will grow or die off
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Someone: I am not buying Diablo III because of the DRM
Them: Boycotts never work, you'll buy it
Someone: No, I won't buy it
Them: Doesn't matter, millions of other people will
Not to start anything, but the growing hate or at least vocal disliking of religion by other religious groups. Most the whole growth in popularity/vocalness of Atheism in proportion to the growth/accessibility of the internet.
I mean, its perfectly fine if you want to be atheist (or really any other religion) but theres not a lot of need to go to the internet and talk about how religion is wrong and the source of all the worlds problems just by the vocal few who make it look bad. And thats not meant to glorify other religions over it, cause they're guilty of the same, but I just dont believe that every atheistic thread is made in retaliation of a shot some religious person made at atheism.
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that and this ever growing hate against capitalism/big business/government thing thats been going on since the London Riots and Wall Street Occupations. reform is needed, but you're not helping by what youre doing, and odds are better youre hurting the cause or at least indirectly and unintentionally contributing to what you're fighting against.
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And the whole, lets be safer thing in schools. Specifically the plastic see through backpacks and singling out the quiet, loner kid as potential Andrew Kehoe, Eric Harris, Dylan Klebold, Seung-Hui Cho, Charles Whitman types while not directly telling anyone or ostracizing them but making it subtly obvious.
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I mean, its perfectly fine if you want to be atheist (or really any other religion) but theres not a lot of need to go to the internet and talk about how religion is wrong and the source of all the worlds problems just by the vocal few who make it look bad. And thats not meant to glorify other religions over it, cause they're guilty of the same, but I just dont believe that every atheistic thread is made in retaliation of a shot some religious person made at atheism.
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that and this ever growing hate against capitalism/big business/government thing thats been going on since the London Riots and Wall Street Occupations. reform is needed, but you're not helping by what youre doing, and odds are better youre hurting the cause or at least indirectly and unintentionally contributing to what you're fighting against.
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And the whole, lets be safer thing in schools. Specifically the plastic see through backpacks and singling out the quiet, loner kid as potential Andrew Kehoe, Eric Harris, Dylan Klebold, Seung-Hui Cho, Charles Whitman types while not directly telling anyone or ostracizing them but making it subtly obvious.
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There is a religion built around the idea of weed being legal and its use to enlighten yourself or something. So some of them could be religious about it.Scruffsss said:
It annoys me when religious people claim that they're facing discrimination because they aren't allowed to put the ten commandments on public buildings or mandate prayer in schools. Bonus points for when they immediately turn around and decry the middle east for being an Islamic theocracy.
EDIT: I find it amusing that I happened to post this right after the previous comment...
EDIT: I find it amusing that I happened to post this right after the previous comment...
What girl does that? I'd outcast her in an instant if I found out about that. And being bisexual isn't attractive, it just makes things awkward.Scruffsss said:
I also hate the gay pride, the weed pride protests. I want weed to be illegal, and for homosexuality to be a dont-ask-dont-tell policy nationwide just because of all the morons advocating for the opposite.
IM not saying religious people are being discriminated against, just its tiring to see the constant fighting and demonizing of religion as more and more young people say they're atheist without really grasping the concept of what it truly means.kane.malakos said:
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its actually kinda hard to explain why I feel this way, since Im Catholic and have that on the outside looking in relationship with atheism.
Change to this:emeraldrafael said:
I hate it when people of [insert religious affiliation or lack there of] talk down to other affiliations or lack there of in ignorant and meaningless ways.
Does that fit better? I don't feel like you are being anti-atheist, rather that atheists doing that are easier to see. I'm positive that most of the people in your church have committed the sin which you hate if you agree to the above.
I know, and I wasn't trying to imply that you were making that argument. I just found it amusing that those two posts with such different viewpoints happened to fall right after each other.emeraldrafael said:
Well, those are two somewhat different trends, political correctness is for the most part basic politeness that is observed by the general population.MysticToast said:
People getting easily offended is people having a thinner skin because people are a bit more polite about legitimate things.
That said, it's worth sometimes worth considering what people who seem easily offended are saying, most are silly, but some have legitimate points.
Its not hate really. hates a strong word I try not to throw around casually. More disdain. And probably not so much my church specifically since the attending age averages in the high 60s and most dont use the computer for much more then bill paying and solitare. Plus our priest likes to try and keep an open mind about people, and I know that more than once I've brought an atheist friend into my church just cause they wanted to go in and see what it was like, and the priest was cool about it.Logiclul said:
But of my religion in general, yeah, im sure people are guilty of misconceptions cant really fault or hate them for it, since everyone makes misconceptions about something. Just gotta try and let see know they're a bit... misguided, and if they dont accept it, you just dont associate with them.
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Im going to sound like Im repeating myself, but you can say it all boils down to a dislike of threads that pop up to insult religion or paint it as some great evil that should never exist and is wrong to practice/believe in. And the same can be said for threads that bash atheism unfairly.
So yeah, pretty much.
yeah, that is rather funny. Would have never saw it if I didnt edit my post.kane.malakos said:
Less people would be offended if they didn't have a chance of making money from the offense.MysticToast said:
Yeah, I kinda speak ill of the dead, anyways (my response to hearing that Michael Jackson died was "So the children are safe now?"). If it's something everyone does, you don't get anything special for doing it. Getting corpsified doesn't mean people should think better of you, unless your death was a direct sacrifice to save another life. But hey, that's just me.Soviet Heavy said:
The fact that you assume that others are misguided, and do not consider the possibility of fallacy in your step shows that you have committed the said sin. I would be surprised if any serious member of any religion did not commit that sin. I am not a serious member of any religion, so it is easy for me not to commit it (I'm not atheist by the way).emeraldrafael said:
Just saying..
It is still socially acceptable to wear enough fake tan to drown 2 kittens.
Seriously, some people need only to apply green hair dye and they'll get themselves a job at Wonka's factory in no time.
Seriously, some people need only to apply green hair dye and they'll get themselves a job at Wonka's factory in no time.
never said I was perfect. didnt say they were wrong either. I may ask why they think that, and correct an incorrect statement they're basing their judgment on, but i wont tell them they're flat out wrong if they want to believe what they believe. just I dont think most people actually understand what they're hating someone for. when i say misguided, i mean the people who look at terrorist muslims, or corrupt leaders, or the crusades and base their opinions entirely on things like that without thinking of the much larger, far less vocal groups who practice cultures more truly to its original form.Logiclul said:
you can still hate if you want, I wont stop you. I may stop associating with you because I dont agree and its not worth the agrivation of such core differences of beliefs, but I wont stop you. At least... not until you try to push that on someone else in a relentless manner that it starts to interfere and upset the individual you're talking to.