Valve bans Game Developer from Steamworks for pointing out a vulnerability

[NuclearKangaroo]

Just so you know kangaroo, the "steam subscriber agreement" isn't the word of god. common mistake. You keep saying he should "exhaust other options" but exactly how much responsibility is he supposed to take on his shoulder? How far is he supposed to go? Where does valve actually start being responsible instead of him? When it's too late and good chunk of the users have key loggers on their pc's and everybody's account info is compromised? That's all before getting into what a time sensitive issue that is. if there is a vulnerability that can be exploited that needs IMMEDIATE attention, anybody remember the ubisoft sql injection or target being compromised?

I keep hearing that he violated some agreement of some sort but I ask if he actually did. From what I am hearing he basically posted a link to a video in an update. So he didn't "hack" anything from the sounds of it, he only pointed out that somebody could have used the exploit to run malicious code, malicious code that apparently bypasses UAC.

This is all not to mention that they were well aware of the issue and had been for several months. At some point valve needs to take responsibility to protect their customers, and it was long before this ever happened. If unquestionably following a strict set of rules is the closes thing you have to a moral compass, then I highly recommend joining your local church.

im not defending valve's lack of attention, im critizng this guy's course of action

from what i understand the guy posted the update, many users were harlem shaken, it was harmless but it happened

also oh religion shaming, so edgy

 

[Vrach]

Well that means he hacked their system so to speak... there are some clear rules on that subject.
I'll agree that Valve need to listen up and sort their stuff when a problem arises, but that still doesn't permit one to break other peoples shit to make a point.

^This. It's like someone coming to your front door and saying "hey, your house door could be jimmied open with a crowbar", you not changing the locks and someone breaking into your house and putting a Miley Cyrus cardboard cut out in your bed. It might be a funny display of your vulnerability, but it's still breaking and entering.

 

[Rozalia1]

"Man, Sony were doucebags for suing that guy for exploiting their security with the PS3, they deserve everything they get!"

Its nice to see the Valve marks out in force defending this eh.

Still the developer was clearly a bit of a Valve mark himself if he cared that much about Valve...so he gets what he deserves I suppose.

 

[SexyGarfield]

The examples above are still removed from his actions and exaggerated like yours in the sense that they compare Duda to criminals.

So a guy walking around with picklocks is a criminal now, even if they haven't broken into anything?

You call him one and every hypothetical you used compared Duda to one.

If somebody walks around with picklocks in the UK without a license to use them, they are also breaking the law.

Fact is you can't cite a law that was broken by Duda and no harm was done, harm was averted which was his intent. This makes your analogies flawed, same as mine.

But the dev actually exploiting a vulnerability is not doing anything illegal...by illegally exploiting a vulnerability. I can see where this is going. You intend to keep applying double-think, so I'll just leave you with that, O'Brien.

Contrary to the way you are framing me you're the one using overly exaggerated language and contradictory statements to describe the situation. in one post you call the man carrying picks a criminal in the very next one you defend him. Also I doubt O'Brien would defend Duda, maybe it's time to dust off your copy of 1984 or stop referencing it.

 

[erbkaiser]

Update: looks like there's a happy ending. The dev got unbanned

https://twitter.com/tomasduda/status/479031656184295424

 

[Bat Vader]

Update: looks like there's a happy ending. The dev got unbanned

https://twitter.com/tomasduda/status/479031656184295424

I had a feeling this was going to happen at some point within the next week or two. I'm sure Valve got a lot of bad PR not just from ignoring the guy's warnings about the flaw in Steam; but also banning the guy after he basically made it public.