Valve: Everything We Do Competes Against Half-Life 2

[JeanLuc761]

I see. And the fans that says its the best thing since sliced bread(for example) is a bit annoying. So you hate it when people who didn't enjoy it call it crap/overrated and I hate it when the fans says its the greatest thing ever(for example) and I didn't like it and they think I have no taste.

Hey, I think the fans who think it's the greatest game ever can be overzealous as well. Regardless of whether or not you liked the game though, all I'm saying is that stating your opinion as fact is egotistical; that's all I'm trying to get across here.

 

[Casual Shinji]

I don't mind people disliking a game, but there seems to be a rather strange itching/buring hatred for Half-life 2 here...Oh well.

Yes, Half-life 2 was an amazing game, Valve. Try to keep that in mind and focus on that one thing you keep forgetting to make. You know what I mean, right? It starts with an "E" and ends with a "3".

 

[nick_knack]

Half Life 2 wasn't even that great. It's as overrated as FF7.

TROLL IN THE DUNGEONS!!!!!11....

thought you ought to know.....

 

[Not G. Ivingname]

Half Life 2 wasn't even that great. It's as overrated as FF7.

Just a word of cation, saying that around here is like saying genocide is a good thing.

 

[MikailCaboose]

Half-Life 2 was decent, although I prefer the Battlefield-style or the run-and-gun DOOM style FPS's more. And while Portal 2 may have a good shot, I'm fairly positive that I won't be helping it along.

 

[NLS]

Half Life to date is the only sequel I can describe as not "holding the gamer up in a wedgie while stealing his/her lunch money". None of today's games can even think of touching the bar Valve set with Half Life and the cast in iron sequel Half Life 2. If you seriously think Halo (number or title here) or any other popular (and generic, oh so generic) shooter these days is better in combat intensity, character development, immersion, story progression, game mechanics you probably did NOT play the game.

Or you also like fat ugly chick without having a drink.

For the people who think it's overrated, of course you are entitled to your own opinion, but please remember Half Life set the standard for modern shooters. Saying it's "not that great" is basically taking a shit on the entire genre.

You say that, but modern FPS' are closer to Halo than Half-Life. Regenerating health, 2 firearm limit, melee separate from weapons, grenades separate from weapons. About all Half-Life added was some form of grav-gun/physics mechanic, maybe vehicle sections (Tho Halo had them too).

For general gameplay tho, Half-Life feels positively old school. Health packs and hyperspace pockets for all your weapons galore! In fact the only other game I can think of that stuck with that was Resistance(PS3), even they changed to the 2 weapon/health regen system for Resistance 2.

Story and writing are solid tho, no argument there.

I think the whole "FPS games went Halo" thing is caused by the fact that many of today's FPS games are multiplatform (or in some cases, primarily made for consoles). It's tedious to cycle through 10 different weapons (especially if you urgently need a melee attack or grenades) using a console gamepad. Halo, which was primarily released for consoles, solved this issue by limiting your weapons and separating melee/grenades from the main weapons. Halo finally proved that FPS games were possible on a console by changing some of the core rules for previous FPS games that were mainly made for PCs. Half Life 2 didn't follow this path, as Valve is, and has mostly been primarily a PC FPS developer. With today's market being mostly multi-platform, it's simpler to just stick with the proven (by Halo) method of 2 weapons and regenerating health with separate melee/grenades.

Although I miss the good old "carry as many weapons as you want, health is replenished by finding a medkit"

 

[Aura Guardian]

I see. And the fans that says its the best thing since sliced bread(for example) is a bit annoying. So you hate it when people who didn't enjoy it call it crap/overrated and I hate it when the fans says its the greatest thing ever(for example) and I didn't like it and they think I have no taste.

Hey, I think the fans who think it's the greatest game ever can be overzealous as well. Regardless of whether or not you liked the game though, all I'm saying is that stating your opinion as fact is egotistical; that's all I'm trying to get across here.

I see. Well, like I said, I found it awful. You liked it? Good. I'll respect that as long as you don't disrespect my opinion.

 

[laryri]

Half Life 2 wasn't even that great. It's as overrated as FF7.

This. And it wouldn't have sold so well if they didn't package it together with games like Team Fortress 2 and Portal... I know that I personally didn't care much for HL2 in that package, nor was I a big fan of it at any point.

Except that it did extremely well pre-Orange Box.

 

[JeanLuc761]

I see. And the fans that says its the best thing since sliced bread(for example) is a bit annoying. So you hate it when people who didn't enjoy it call it crap/overrated and I hate it when the fans says its the greatest thing ever(for example) and I didn't like it and they think I have no taste.

Hey, I think the fans who think it's the greatest game ever can be overzealous as well. Regardless of whether or not you liked the game though, all I'm saying is that stating your opinion as fact is egotistical; that's all I'm trying to get across here.

I see. Well, like I said, I found it awful. You liked it? Good. I'll respect that as long as you don't disrespect my opinion.

Fair enough, that's all I'm asking.

 

[Locko96]

Half Life 2 wasn't even that great. It's as overrated as FF7.

...get...out...

OT: It is fairly reasonable that every game Valve releases will be compared to one of it's first and best games. However Valve has yet to release a game I haven't enjoyed.

 

[Freemon]

Half Life 2 wasn't even that great. It's as overrated as FF7.

This. And it wouldn't have sold so well if they didn't package it together with games like Team Fortress 2 and Portal... I know that I personally didn't care much for HL2 in that package, nor was I a big fan of it at any point.

half Life 2 was release a long time before the orange box. It was release in 2004 and back then it was considered by many as the greatest game of all times.

The orange box was released in 2007. Most of those who didn't know the Half life series and bought the orange box thought, and still think, the game was being released for the first time on the orange box, in 2007. That's why they say the game is mediocre, slow paced and with bad graphics. They compare it to more recent games.

 

[Enigmers]

I think Portal 2 probably will do better than Half-Life 2, not just because of the simultaneous release, but because I think Portal is a simpler game and appeals to a lot of people, even if they're not into shooters.

 

[Woodsey]

I find it hilarious that everything they announce - despite the brilliance of everything they've released - immediately loses standing in people's eyes because it's not Episode 3.

And it wouldn't have sold so well if they didn't package it together with games like Team Fortress 2 and Portal

6 million copies in it's first year and it was a platform exclusive. There's then ~3 years until the release of The Orange Box. To say much of it's success rides off of TF2 and Portal is ridiculous; people forget how much of a surprise Portal was when the OB was released.

I believe they're also talking retail copies only, not Steam sales of the game.

 

[McShizzle]

Half Life 2 wasn't even that great. It's as overrated as FF7.

heh. Troll much?

Half Life 2 wasn't even that great. It's as overrated as FF7.

Troll much?

Disagreeing with you is trolling? Also look at the number of people who agreed with me. I'm not trolling.

Making unqualified inflammatory statements is trolling.

To those who state that Half-life 2 is overated/not very good, I'd be curious to hear exactly, which title it is that you hold as the pinnacle of FPS gaming. Also the comparison between TF2 and HL2 is fairly ludicrous. Other than the source engine, they don't share much in common. One is a singleplayer, narrative driven, FPS. While the other is a multiplayer, online, arena based shooter. It's the whole apples & oranges thing.

Lastly, To Valve: If HL2 is your special baby, hurry up and fix it already. Your big engine change messed it up and it's still not fixed! Get on it.

 

[InsanityBaronOfAtrocity]

I..didn't..think it was that good. I mean it was alright and that but it was just a bog standard shooter. And I had no idea what was going on at the time. Much prefer left 4 dead. I think.

 

[Eri]

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I'm pretty sure calling me a troll falls under unsubstantiated inflammatory comments as that is your opinion not fact. Just like my previous comments about HL and FF.

 

[Burningsok]

Half Life 2 wasn't even that great. It's as overrated as FF7.

heh. Troll much?

No no, he isn't trolling he stating his opinion and nothing else. Trolling is basically doing this and then adding in a bunch of pointless hate rambling with complete made up and untrue crap to make it look horrible.

Also I personally like Half-Life 2. It just felt right, the characters, flow of the game as you travel from one place to another, ect. FF7, I haven't played that game in about 8 years. It was great at the time.

 

[tehroc]

Half Life 2 wasn't even that great. It's as overrated as FF7.

I agree, I found it pretty damn boring myself. The engine looked great but it was nothing really special and didnt ever push any envelopes.

...and really guys anyone who call someone a troll for stating an opinion are most likely the real trolls just trying to bait someone into hurling insults.

 

[Frozen Donkey Wheel2]

Oh good, they remember they made a Half Life series.

 

[felixader]

Pro-Tip: make the Goddamn Successor!

It kinda sucks big time how the Story is left hanging in nowhere. No matter how awesome the game is deemed THIS JUST FUCKING SUCKS.
It is the worst kind of thing you can do between games and on this successor we wait now since ever!