VALVe no longer doing single player only games?
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4 hours?Sober Thal said:
Really?
I mean, I like looking at all the details too, but at most, the first Portal was 2 hours long on my first playthrough.
Portal 2 had a lot more details in the environment for me to look at, along with much more dialogue and secrets.
It was easily three times as long as the original, so I'd say they kept their promise.
I beat the first Bioshock in one sitting, and there wasn't any multiplayer either. So I guess it isn't a full game at all?Sober Thal said:
Logic = kinda flawed.
Honestly Bioshock was longer, though I did beat it in a sitting because I had nothing to do... but I'd still consider Portal 2 worth my money more than Bioshock was because I had much more fun while playing it. I've played both twice.
As others have already mentioned, Half-Life has always come with an online multiplayer component (known as Half-Life Deathmatch, I think). It's just that nobody thinks of it when they think of Half-Life because... well, it's terribly unpopular and no one really plays it. This is what was modded in to Counter Strike, which then became it's own gigantic beast and insanely successful.
So yeah, technically this is nothing new. If, however, this means that they will be devoting more time for a Half-Life multiplayer product for the next installment, and splitting it up with the single player, I will be kind of mad. I kind of don't mind Half-Life multiplayer remaining the redheaded stepchild that no one gives a crap about.
Portal 2 multiplayer was fun, but tbh I would of just as soon had the single player campaign be released on its own, for cheaper, and not cared one bit about not having a co-op mode. Especially considering that the co-op is completely undesirable to play through it more than one time, which leaves a lot of people shit out of luck if they want to play it with their friends, who are already done with it. Like me. I have not completely the co-op, but everyone on my Steam friends has, and they are reluctant as crap to play with me since, you know, doing the same puzzles over again when you know all the answers and the other person is brand new to it is totally obnoxious. It's also not fun for the person who is new to it, since the other person solves it very quickly for them and there is no "discovery" stage. I'll be damned if I play with random people on a quick match system.
What I would love to see, if they are indeed going the Portal 2 route with Half-Life, is more of a hop-in-hop-out co-op, like Borderlands or L4D, where if your buddy leaves, a bot can take over, or you can just continue playing by yourself. Of course, this was not possible in Portal 2, since the puzzles required a 2nd person, and a bot cannot solve puzzles in the same manner. But it is really annoying when your partner crashes out or whatever, and you just get booted to the menu screen.
A Half-Life co-op where you have the possibility of a buddy popping in to play with you, as say Alyx, and then continuing with a bot Alyx or with Gordon solo if your buddy leaves, would be great.
What I do not want is FORCED co-op, or a multiplayer-only component that takes away from the single-player by taking up half the dev team's time and resources.
So yeah, technically this is nothing new. If, however, this means that they will be devoting more time for a Half-Life multiplayer product for the next installment, and splitting it up with the single player, I will be kind of mad. I kind of don't mind Half-Life multiplayer remaining the redheaded stepchild that no one gives a crap about.
Portal 2 multiplayer was fun, but tbh I would of just as soon had the single player campaign be released on its own, for cheaper, and not cared one bit about not having a co-op mode. Especially considering that the co-op is completely undesirable to play through it more than one time, which leaves a lot of people shit out of luck if they want to play it with their friends, who are already done with it. Like me. I have not completely the co-op, but everyone on my Steam friends has, and they are reluctant as crap to play with me since, you know, doing the same puzzles over again when you know all the answers and the other person is brand new to it is totally obnoxious. It's also not fun for the person who is new to it, since the other person solves it very quickly for them and there is no "discovery" stage. I'll be damned if I play with random people on a quick match system.
What I would love to see, if they are indeed going the Portal 2 route with Half-Life, is more of a hop-in-hop-out co-op, like Borderlands or L4D, where if your buddy leaves, a bot can take over, or you can just continue playing by yourself. Of course, this was not possible in Portal 2, since the puzzles required a 2nd person, and a bot cannot solve puzzles in the same manner. But it is really annoying when your partner crashes out or whatever, and you just get booted to the menu screen.
A Half-Life co-op where you have the possibility of a buddy popping in to play with you, as say Alyx, and then continuing with a bot Alyx or with Gordon solo if your buddy leaves, would be great.
What I do not want is FORCED co-op, or a multiplayer-only component that takes away from the single-player by taking up half the dev team's time and resources.
Well aslong as there is a single player campagin i don't mind but will this mean at Half life episode 3 will have MP? or even better CO-OP?
I doubt it matters. I would wager large amounts of imaginary money that there will never be another Half-life game.Beryl77 said:
Quoted from the Kotaku page:
"Portal 2 will probably be Valve's last game with an isolated single-player experience,"
I think people are reading into this too hard they missed the bold word. They aren't going to stop making single-player focused games, they just aren't going to be making single-player ONLY games... Which the only one I can think of is Portal
"Portal 2 will probably be Valve's last game with an isolated single-player experience,"
I think people are reading into this too hard they missed the bold word. They aren't going to stop making single-player focused games, they just aren't going to be making single-player ONLY games... Which the only one I can think of is Portal
Judging by some of the recent games, it's not like they really skip on Single Player content. Co-op isn't too bad, either.
Valve had been making multiplayer in their games from the beginning. Even the original Half-Life had a deathmatch mode, despite it being a single-player focused game.
The reason why games such as Portal 2, which you would think is a 1p focused game, has a coop mode is because people nowadays like coop and multiplayer in their games. Games don't really feel complete or replayable if they lack a multiplayer mode of some sort.
The reason why games such as Portal 2, which you would think is a 1p focused game, has a coop mode is because people nowadays like coop and multiplayer in their games. Games don't really feel complete or replayable if they lack a multiplayer mode of some sort.
Counter strike, Portal 2, Left 4 Dead, Left for Dead 2, Team Fortress 2, and these are just off the top of my head. Valve makes good games, not solely single player games.
You said "any game you can finish in one sitting is not good enough to buy at full price...", I was responding to that. Seven or eight hours in one sitting is uhh, quite a bit of gaming. And I highly doubt you flew through it any shorter than that in your first play through. Remember, Steam's time keeping system is fucked.Sober Thal said:
