Valve selling out?

[thornussell]

With Left 4 Dead 2 being released Valve has been doing alot of hyping for it. Valve being one of my all time favorite gaming companies but with the release of all the extras for preordering L4D2 its starting to seem like they are going for money. Now this may be EA being the money hungry whores that they are but does anyone have any insight or information or just basic opinion (this is not for flaming about how L4D2 sucks and all that bullshit i want legitimate opinions and thoughtful points of views, not just douchers being douchers.)

 

[DeadlyYellow]

Isn't that only a problem for the console players?

 

[DjSehvun]

If memory serves me right, all of these "extras" you speak of are free. You also get the game 10% for pre-ordering it so it looks like you're saving money.

Wait, what's that? Valve wants you to buy their game so they're putting out incentives? Greedy whores!

 

[thornussell]

Uhm......they are a business.
Businesses are set up to make money.
Otherwise they would be called a "non-profit organisation"

Well yes i understand they want to make money but for an example, Bungie would be and example of a whore who uses the license for there game to create a massive revenue and really cares nothing about there fan base. Valve has been known to care alot about there fans and not just try to make money but try to make games that they want and to take care of there massive fan base.

 

[Gxas]

Oh dear, your god is succumbing to the fact that, despite their huge fanbase, they need to bring in more people to play their games in order to make more money!

 

[thornussell]

If memory serves me right, all of these "extras" you speak of are free. You also get the game 10% for pre-ordering it so it looks like you're saving money.

Wait, what's that? Valve wants you to buy their game so they're putting out incentives? Greedy whores!

The extras are free yes, but why would they need to put out incentives other than the game itself? Why pile on so many incentives to pre-order this game? Why not just let people pre-order because they want the game, not becuase they get Bill's hat in TF2?

 

[Canadamus Prime]

Uhm......they are a business.
Businesses are set up to make money.
Otherwise they would be called a "non-profit organisation"

That's only acceptable to a point, after that it's like 'no, they're greedy exploitative fucks'.

 

[madcap2112]

They can't really make games for said fanbase if they don't have the money to do it. Hence, they market the game so more people will buy it and they have money to make more games. It's a very simple cycle.

 

[thornussell]

Uhm......they are a business.
Businesses are set up to make money.
Otherwise they would be called a "non-profit organisation"

Well yes i understand they want to make money but for an example, Bungie would be and example of a whore who uses the license for there game to create a massive revenue and really cares nothing about there fan base. Valve has been known to care alot about there fans and not just try to make money but try to make games that they want and to take care of there massive fan base.

Please explain where you see money-gouging:

If memory serves me right, all of these "extras" you speak of are free. You also get the game 10% for pre-ordering it so it looks like you're saving money.

Wait, what's that? Valve wants you to buy their game so they're putting out incentives? Greedy whores!

By having many people pre-order their game the 10% discount means nothing in loss. The extras are not hard to add.

 

[thornussell]

Uhm......they are a business.
Businesses are set up to make money.
Otherwise they would be called a "non-profit organisation"

That's only acceptable to a point, after that it's like 'no, they're greedy exploitative fucks'.

Uhm......they are a business.
Businesses are set up to make money.
Otherwise they would be called a "non-profit organisation"

Well yes i understand they want to make money but for an example, Bungie would be and example of a whore who uses the license for there game to create a massive revenue and really cares nothing about there fan base. Valve has been known to care alot about there fans and not just try to make money but try to make games that they want and to take care of there massive fan base.

I'm afriad the two of ye don't understand what a business is.

I do understand a business acually. there is a difference to making money and fucking over the fan base to make more money or pulling a Bungie. (Clearly i despise Bungie for whoreing out the Halo series.)

 

[Signa]

C'mon, while I get the OP's argument, it's quite flawed. A lot of companies are offering bonuses for buying their product when they want you to. It's up to you to decide if buying now or later is more worth it.

To top it all off, I'll give you a good counter-evidence to your so-called "selling out" evidence: Gamespot's pointlessly stupid character battle lead Valve to put up a sale on their Half-Life games because their character won. If you think they are sellouts, please name one other company that you think would even consider pulling a stunt like that if they had the means to. Do you think Nintendo would have made one, or all Virtual Console Mario games 53.8% off had they won instead? What if Master Chief won? Would MS discount anything Halo related? I just don't see anyone else doing that, because it means less of the almighty dollar for each of them.

 

[Sassafrass]

(Clearly i despise Bungie for whoreing out the Halo series.)

Can I ask how?

OT: No, they're not selling out. As has been said, the extra content is free and they take money off of the price.

 

[thornussell]

(Clearly i despise Bungie for whoreing out the Halo series.)

Can I ask how?

OT: No, they're not selling out. As has been said, the extra content is free and they take money off of the price.

I despise Bungie for dragging the Halo series to its thinnest ropes and trying to score as much possible revenue for it.
And Signa i love Valve. I know they werent money hungry whores. They made some amazing things im just wondering of why so much for L4D2? Why all this hyping for that game when none of the others did?

 

[DjSehvun]

Uhm......they are a business.
Businesses are set up to make money.
Otherwise they would be called a "non-profit organisation"

That's only acceptable to a point, after that it's like 'no, they're greedy exploitative fucks'.

Uhm......they are a business.
Businesses are set up to make money.
Otherwise they would be called a "non-profit organisation"

Well yes i understand they want to make money but for an example, Bungie would be and example of a whore who uses the license for there game to create a massive revenue and really cares nothing about there fan base. Valve has been known to care alot about there fans and not just try to make money but try to make games that they want and to take care of there massive fan base.

I'm afriad the two of ye don't understand what a business is.

I do understand a business acually. there is a difference to making money and fucking over the fan base to make more money or pulling a Bungie. (Clearly i despise Bungie for whoreing out the Halo series.)

But exactly how is giving people free extras for wanting their game so much that they pre-ordered it is "fucking over the fan base"? I just don't get it.

 

[Sassafrass]

(Clearly i despise Bungie for whoreing out the Halo series.)

Can I ask how?

OT: No, they're not selling out. As has been said, the extra content is free and they take money off of the price.

I despise Bungie for dragging the Halo series to its thinnest ropes and trying to score as much possible revenue for it.
And Signa i love Valve. I know they werent money hungry whores. They made some amazing things im just wondering of why so much for L4D2? Why all this hyping for that game when none of the others did?

Are you talking about Halo Wars here? I'll wait until you get back to me and tell me if you are or are not.