Valve Unfazed by PS3 Hacks

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PipBoy2000 said:
Jesus christ, the Escapist... Don't put Valve's logo on the main page for negligible news... I almost got a heart attack :D
HAHAHAHAA! Yeah, same here, I had to just open the door and check it wasn't the apocalypse.
 

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Joseph375 said:
I wonder if since Valve is now OK with the PS3 they will release Left 4 Dead 3/HL2EP3 on PS3...maybe a new orange-box type thing but this time made by Vavle?
I've been thinking that for a while now. They own the Left 4 Dead IP so there's nothing that's keeping them from bringing it to the PS3. We already have the God of War collection, the Team Ico collection, and the Sly collection. Why not a Left 4 Dead collection? Fortunately the people at Valve have already acknowledged the possibility of Left 4 Dead on the PS3. My guess is they are waiting to see how things go with Portal 2 first before making any decisions on that.
 

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I expect the inclusion of steamworks on the PS3 is far more damaging than a a modders ability to hack it could ever be...
 

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nipsen said:
But speaking about the actual hack, and in terms of the mechanisms on the platform (and other things Sony folks don't know what is), the "hack" isn't actually breaking the system wide open. In practical terms it never did.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-ps3-security-in-tatters

I recommend a thorough read of that article. The most succinct quote therein:

In effect, the PlayStation 3 is now the most vulnerable console on the market, even more exposed to hackers than the Wii and Xbox 360.
P.S.: What is this "jig" you refer to on the 360? The closest thing I can think of is a JTAG hack.
 

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Whoever wanted to buy MW or MW2 on the PS3 to play it has already done it. These aren't lost sales or anything, it's basically... nothing. Hell, people who pirate those two games at this time might even be potential buyers in the future. The hackers who get their hands on such games now were planning to do so anyway, I don't see where the big panic is.

The problem is only going to be apparent with new games that come out, obviously. If anything, they should panic about MW25 and Black Ops 452.
As for actual hackers in multiplayer, this is what dedicated servers are for. Period.
 

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But yeah, Valve (as I've mentioned before) is one of the only companies that I respect.
 

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Covarr said:
DominicxD said:
Couldn't you buy Portal 2 on the PS3, download the fee PC version, then return the PS3 version for a full refund?
I'm sure Valve has thought of this, and found a way to plug up this hole.

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And why should they care? It's Sony's problem not their's. Valve can take care of itself.
What he said.

Don't make short or low content posts. Mod.

Edit. Well sorry, I'd made posts like this before and nobody ever had a problem with it. I didn't know that sort of thing was frowned upon.
I don't think it is, nor should it be. Modes, you know, are an entirely different species as far as I'm concerned.
 

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Knowing Valve {which we don't} they're probably making the game run off an internal emulator for a different proprietary operating system than the console.
 

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Sentox6 said:
I recommend a thorough read of that article. The most succinct quote therein:
Yeah.. as we all know - Digitalfoundry would never tell a lie. (They just repeat what anonymous people tell them).

edit: also, the more general and unspecific, the more of an authority you are on everything. Obviously.
 

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nipsen said:
Yeah.. as we all know - Digitalfoundry would never tell a lie. (They just repeat what anonymous people tell them).
In this case it looks like the anonymous people can back themselves up. If you have any actual evidence to the contrary, I'd certainly like to see it (hell, just explain on a technical level what's wrong with the assertions in the article).

At any rate, GeoHot's 3.55 is available, letting people run homebrew (and I know of at least one PS3 game backup that's running in conjunction with that). I mean, simply on the basis that this is a software-only hack, it's already more accessible than achieving the same result on the 360.

Also, I still really want to know what this "jig" hack for the 360 is.
 

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Yes. Everyone search for "JTAG" on google. Happy?

And no - again, they're simply assuming, and stating things very generally that doesn't actually involve the things they insist on. Typical DF, it's what they always do. In this case, it's equating "running backups" with "being able to do anything". They're not the same.
 

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Is it does me, or does this sound like a challenge? When people say "unhackable," or "this doesn't affect us," that's when all the hackers come out of the woodwork, right?
 

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bladester1 said:
I see it now "PlayStation developers using Steamworks to protect games." I have no ill will towards Valve, I like them a lot, but for the love of god someone stop them before they take over the world!
BUT I WANT THEM TO BE OUR SUPREME OVERLORDS!!!!! THEY SAID THEY'D GIVE US FREE COOKIES. :p
 

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Andy of Comix Inc said:
Is it does me, or does this sound like a challenge? When people say "unhackable," or "this doesn't affect us," that's when all the hackers come out of the woodwork, right?
Normally this would be true, but I know many people and have heard dozens of stories of people who used to Pirate Games actually find out they Love Steam so much they actually Quit pirating the games and end up not only buying all their games off of Steam they also end up buying all the games they pirated as well because they feel bad about doing it.

Besides I've seen and heard of Steam hacks, but none of them are any good.
 

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Trmptplyr_07 said:
Normally this would be true, but I know many people and have heard dozens of stories of people who used to Pirate Games actually find out they Love Steam so much they actually Quit pirating the games and end up not only buying all their games off of Steam they also end up buying all the games they pirated as well because they feel bad about doing it.

Besides I've seen and heard of Steam hacks, but none of them are any good.
No, no, Steamworks is coming to PS3. The achievements, dedicated server, and friendslist backend. Not "Steam," the program itself. Besides, Steam "hacks" often manifest themselves as multiplayer cheats - which is disrupted by the VAC system - unless the server is VAC-disabled, often a private server, which Portal 2 will most likely use because it's only 2-player co-op...
 

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Irridium said:
But hackers were already having a field day with COD4 and MW2 way before these hacks...

Ah well, I assume Portal 2 will use Steam rather then PSN. But that being said VAC isn't exactly the best anti-hacker system...
Really? So far, it's the best I've ever seen.

I don't remember the last time I encountered a hacker on a TF2, DOD:S or CS:S server. I mean, there's basically two layers of security: VAC itself and the people administering each individual server. It's possible to get past VAC, it's not as easy getting past an Admin.

I can't say the same for PunkBuster. It's a piece of crap.
 

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I can definitely see Sony adopting Valves techniques and methods in order to protect their games. And to think that Valve and Sony were once on poor terms. Now it looks like Valve may very well turn out to be one of the best friends Sony has. The irony is quite delicious.