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Anchupom

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Hey Escapists. I have a question for all of you:
What vampires, in any form of literature, media, etc. are the true kings of the undead?
I was going to put a poll on this, but there are too many iterations of the bloodsuckers[sup]*[/sup] for the options. Besides, I'm sure I'd miss some out.

[sub][small]* in most iterations, but not all, vampires are known to drink the blood of their victims[/small][/sub]
 

Sassafrass

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I'm gonna go ahead and say the Twilight vampires.
...Yeah, yeah, them.
 

Exius Xavarus

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My personal favorite vampire would be D.Gray-Man's Crowly. I couldn't say which vampires would be the true kings of the undead, but I don't feel that Bethesda has grasped the concept of vampires well with their iterations in The Elder Scrolls. Nor do I believe Twilight's vampires deserve it either.
 

keiskay

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none of them, the vampire has no definitive interpretation and almost all are different in many aspects except for 2 major things.

immortality and the drinking of blood.
 
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I really like vampires in Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines.

Which I believe is based on the World of Darkness tabletop RPG (correct me if I'm wrong).

Nothing is more awesome than a crazy Malkavian arguing with a Stop Sign.

 

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My favourite depiction of vampires has to be 30 Days of Night
Its basically a survival horror about the residents of the Alaskan town of Barrow. Its so far north that the town goes through cycles where it doesnt see daylight for 30 days.. You can see how this could be advantageous to vampires.

The film was awesome and has some pretty badass vampires and the graphic novel has quite a unique artstyle.

As for worse depiction.. well im afraid i'd have to be boring and go with Twilight.
 

Malues

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World of Darkness Vampires. Even the weakest of them could beat the snot out of anything from Twilight.
 

Something Amyss

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Daystar Clarion said:
Nothing is more awesome than a crazy Malkavian arguing with a Stop Sign.
Which is funny, because according to White Wolf YOU'RE PLAYING IT WRONG!!!!

And yet....
 

Athinira

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I'd argue the Forgotten Realms interpretation of is the best (or if nothing else, the most logical one). Many adaptations of Vampires sadly try to take the "formula" (if you will) in a direction that simple doesn't make any sense.

The adaptations where the Vampires all have a secret society (or at the very least some secret rules they follow) that humans know nothing about, and they don't want the humans to know about just doesn't make any sense. Vampires: TM: Bloodlines, Blade movies, Twilight, Moonlight (TV Series), True Blood (where the vampires HAD a secret society, but came forward when someone invented some artificial blood the vampires could drink).

The problem with those is that practically, that's simply impossible. Vampires are predators by nature, with instinct often overpowering logic, and you simply can't prevent that at least not SOME of them will end up exposing them at some point. It simply isn't going to happen. Humans (as in, all humans, or at least close) is simply going to find out sooner or later when bodies appear in the streets clawed up, and someone witnesses it and videotapes it. There is no "hideouts" that are secret enough in the sense that humans won't bump into them at some point. In the modern information age, it's especially impossible to keep a society like that hidden. It simply isn't going to happen.

The most logical Vampire adaptation is therefore the ones where Vampires are simply Undead and people know about them, just like they know about other undead creatures like Skeletons, Zombies etc. People try to avoid them, but they KNOW they exist, and some heroes (Paladins in particular, but also priests) exists to fight them. I'm not saying the other adaptations don't have their place, but this one is definitely the one that makes the most sense.

Btw, the original Vampire adaptations (as in, Count Dracula etc.) are also great, but only if the fiction is kept a few centuries back. These adaptations simply wouldn't be able to survive in the modern world, because they rely on mystique to keep things interesting, and there are very few non-fiction things in existence in the information age that has any mystique left to it. I'd love to see the reaction on Count Draculas face when local law enforcement arrive with some government officials, the media and a search warrant, demanding that he pays his taxes.
 
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Sassafrass said:
I'm gonna go ahead and say the Twilight vampires.
...Yeah, yeah, them.


My favourite has always been the Malkavians - because they show the Vampire as he really is - a crazed drug addict coping with immortality; but as the Kings? It really depends.

Like any myth, as long as it's fully fleshed out, there's no winner between Nosferatu, The Dhampir or the Federation's Mutant Vampires. (+10 awesome points if you know of whom I speak)

Twiglet vampires fail on so many levels it's untrue.

Just as there's no real "Robot" that's the king; whether it's C3P0, Bender, Calculon, K-9 or Robby.
 
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Zachary Amaranth said:
Daystar Clarion said:
Nothing is more awesome than a crazy Malkavian arguing with a Stop Sign.
Which is funny, because according to White Wolf YOU'RE PLAYING IT WRONG!!!!

And yet....
It's 2.30 in the morning here, so forgive me but...

Whaaaaaaaa!?
 

Blow_Pop

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I've always favoured both Nosferatu and the vampires in the Anita Blake books......and of course Dracula......*shrugs*
 

Something Amyss

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Malues said:
World of Darkness Vampires. Even the weakest of them could beat the snot out of anything from Twilight.
Yes, the guys who don't even need to avoid sunlight could objectively beat the guys who have to roll to stay awake at all during the day.

I get the hatred of Twilight, mostly because it's poorly written abstinence porn, but the Mormon superman analogue could probably handle the "tales of personal horror" guys White Wolf put out.
 

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The Tzimisce of old in the old World of Darkness. Pretty much the epitome of ruling through fear, not to mention very powerful. Very feudalistic though.
 

Something Amyss

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Daystar Clarion said:
It's 2.30 in the morning here, so forgive me but...

Whaaaaaaaa!?
I'm a WoD player from way back. White Wolf, the company that makes the World of Darkness series (which includes Vampire: The Masquerade) is fairly snobbish about their material and not afraid to tell you the right way to play, despite also saying there really is no wrong way to play.

One of their pet peeves is "funny" Malks. Malks are supposed to be horrifying and psychotic, not cute or amusing.

Except in the source material, the video games, the associated fiction (Some of which is written by the guys who made the game and hate the stereotype), etc.

It's long been a source of amusement for me.
 
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Zachary Amaranth said:
Daystar Clarion said:
It's 2.30 in the morning here, so forgive me but...

Whaaaaaaaa!?
I'm a WoD player from way back. White Wolf, the company that makes the World of Darkness series (which includes Vampire: The Masquerade) is fairly snobbish about their material and not afraid to tell you the right way to play, despite also saying there really is no wrong way to play.

One of their pet peeves is "funny" Malks. Malks are supposed to be horrifying and psychotic, not cute or amusing.

Except in the source material, the video games, the associated fiction (Some of which is written by the guys who made the game and hate the stereotype), etc.

It's long been a source of amusement for me.
Well that sounds boring.

What I love about the Malks are their complete unawareness of the importance of the events around them. Their 'insight' is great when it creeps someone out, but like it says in a loading screen blurb, why can't they be both? Some Malks can be blood thirsty pyschopaths, while others are so eccentric that it's impossible to get any sense out of them.

I hate lore whores.
 

WolfThomas

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Honestly I'm fine with whatever an creator does with vampires. People clamour they want change and ***** about things that have changed. Vampires (and Zombies) are somethings I don't mind seeing done differently with fresh ideas, rather that the same cliched tropes repeated over and over again. Twilight doesn't suck because it's Vampires sparkle, it sucks because it's terrible writing and thinly veiled abstinence propaganda.

One idea I had for a Vampire setting, is that they have all of the common weaknesses (sunlight, stakes, silver, garlic, running water) but not religious weakness (crucifixes, holy water, faith) because that's actually from when Demons, who also enjoy human blood but for flavour not sustenance, were mistaken for Vampires.

Edit: Kind of misread the OP. Dracula, the man is the bomb-diggity. Can walk in daylight, turn into mist, a bat or a wolf. Mind control powers.