Vegetarians

[Captain_Planet]

As fun as generalizations are, I hope we can begin to look past them.

Every vegetarian I know is a self-rightous militant crusader, oh and every meat eater Ive ever known is a barbarian. And every muslim Ive ever known is a terrorist. And every republican I have ever known is a war hawkish bible humper. And every democrat I have ever known is a pot smoking hippie. And every Wii owner is six years old. And every WoW player is a hopeless obsessive. And everyone is wrong in some sort of bizzarre way, except me, of course, Captain Planet, the shining example of humanity, perfection in action.

I think my obvious attempt at satire kind of shows the problem with this thread, and yeah I have generalized too, but its something we can overcome together.

 

[Siuss]

Alright, I'm a vegan (personal choice) I don't push it on anyone at all. I may leave if it's a meat eating fest, bust aside from that I say do what you will. The ONLY people I actually have a problem for are people who hunt for fun and trophies. I have a few friends who are great about it, and almost everyone else seems to quite literally hate me for it. The only reason anyone even knows, aside from the aforementioned friends, is my school therapist, that's right therapist, made me explain why I never ate at the school.

 

[OHC]

Plants are living things, why aren't you concerned about them, hmmm? Is it because they have no "life" to them?

They have plenty of life; just no nervous system, flight response, consciousness or many of the other things members of the animal kindgom possess. Regardless, killing anything (including trees and plants) unnecessarily is immoral. It's unnecessary to kill animals when plants provide all the nutrition the human body needs.

 

[OHC]

Every vegetarian I know is a self-rightous militant crusader

No, it's just me so far.

 

[EnzoHonda]

Uriahz just had the most epic first post in the history of foruming. Now, although he got a little crazy (like Green Goblin crazy), his points were quite valid.

Economically, vegetarians are changing the supermarket-landscape, albeit slowly. There are more veggie options every day. Ever person who doesn't eat meat reduces the amount of meat that is needed. Meat producers do not raise animals that can not be sold. And it does affect them, remember when Oprah got sued by ranchers for saying she wouldn't eat beef?

Health-wise it could be argued that someone with the discipline to become a vegetarian also has self-control when it comes to eating. This could be why statistically vegetarians are healthier. http://www.fcs.uga.edu/pubs/current/FDNS-E-18.html A diet, any diet, is only as healthy as the discipline behind it. Oh, and much of the protein that the average person eats, vegetarian or not, ends up in the toilet.

Morally, to many vegetarians, it's a matter of life. That's where the extremism can come from. In the same way pro-life people get up in arms, vegetarians can too. It's not an effort to be "holier than thou," it's that many feel that causing harm to animals is cruel and unnecessary. This can be difficult for meat-eaters to understand because it is not an issue for them (thus, they eat meat).

I've been a vegetarian for going-on five years. I'm a freaking tank. I'm healthier than I've ever been, but I'd wager that's more due to the amount I've been exercising lately. I try not to be too militant and simply lead by example. Try marinating some diced tofu in Worcestershire sauce and curry, then pan-fry it in olive oil. Mix it with some pasta and your favourite steamed veggies. (P.S. Worcestershire sauce contains anchovies.)

 

[Shivari]

Every vegetarian I know is a self-rightous militant crusader

No, it's just me so far.

You obviously haven't known me for long.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.73537?page=1

Good times.

 

[Hunde Des Krieg]

The reason many people don't like vegetarians is that sometimes vegetarians can be pretentious and act with a holier than thou attitude. I know that this isn't always the case but still...

 

[OHC]

Every vegetarian I know is a self-rightous militant crusader

No, it's just me so far.

You obviously haven't known me for long.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.73537?page=1

Good times.

Ah, pleased to meet you

You might like this then: http://www.cafepress.com/nomeatplease

 

[santaandy]

Well I have a cousin who is a pretty alright person, and she's a vegetarian. To me, as long as you don't cross the line from being a vegetarian/vegan into being a vegeterrorist, you're A-OK. I can respect you're not wanting to eat/use whatever if you respect my right to want to. People on both sides usually are nice enough to not cause trouble over it in social situations.

The problem isn't what you believe; much like with religion, it's whether or not you force other people to conform. Giving me a pamphlet is fine, but attacking people and their coats with spraypaint is unacceptable. Those kind of people don't value human life any more than Al-Qaeda.

 

[Zer_]

Every vegetarian I know is a self-rightous militant crusader

No, it's just me so far.

You obviously haven't known me for long.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.73537?page=1

Good times.

So we "meat" again...

=.=

 

[sms_117b]

I only heckle people I know about it, it's just fun to make fun of people, although not in a nasty bullying way, it's just a ongoing joke between me and all veggies I know

From a serious stand point I don't understand the want not to eat meat;
> there's no other natural source with enough protein to sustain the human body healthily, well with a reasonable amount of said substance, a good chicken breast has about 40 grams protein, whereas a egg (best non-meat (technically) source of protein) has 3ish grams, big difference

> From a religious stand point, I think some where in genesis it says about eating anything except the fruits of one tree, and seeing man was created with K9's at the front, these teeth rip up meat, why would god have given us hem if not to eat meat

> From a Atheist's evolutionary stand point, the teeth at the front of the mouth (K9's) are for ripping up meat, why else would we have them if not to eat meat? They've developed over the centuries to make the eating of meat easier

 

[wewontdie11]

> From a religious stand point, I think some where in genesis it says about eating anything except the fruits of one tree, and seeing man was created with K9's at the front, these teeth rip up meat, why would god have given us hem if not to eat meat

The biblical standpoint on food differs with each book. In Leviticus (I forget the chapter/verse) it says you can only eat animals of cloven or parted hoof, animals with scales and birds that don't eat flesh, but in Verses, God says it is fine to eat anything you want so long as the meat doesn't have blood in it.

Best not to pay too much attention to the diets described in the bible I think.

 

[Archereus]

I am a vegetarian and have been for the majority of my life so far (since I was 8). None of my family are vegetarian or are animal activists or anything, but one day I just decided that I didn't like the taste or texture of meat when I was eating it anymore.

My question is why do so many people have so much hate for vegetarians? A lot of my acquaintances constantly berate me for my eating preferences like some kind of amateur food Nazis, but I fail to see how it is different from not liking, for example, bananas or turnip. Even the really hardcore, morally orientated vegetarians and vegans have the right to eat what they want, and although it is not my view, I understand and respect their not wanting to kill animals. I feel this to be a perfectly reasonable point of view.

So I ask you, why the hate?

now i come from a long line of vegetarians, not family wise, i am in high school and guess whats the new fad over here right now. I dont think we just pick on vegeterians because they are what they are. Now of course i aint no vegeterian, neither will i ever be, i love my meat and every thing about it, but neither will i insult another vegeterian for as long as they dont deserve it. But most vegetarians, maybe not you or any one you know preach. By preaching i mean they constantly go around spewing out animal rights and saying how we shouldnt eat them and what have you. Its them that get picked on for sure and probably its because of them vegetarians are so picked on today. So in one last work Fuck you PETA

 

[Doomar]

I'm a vegetarian and my mates are constantly on my back for it "yummy meeaat" and all that lark. I'm not one of those vegeterrorists, infact I don't even really like animals apart from the odd penguin or squirrel. The main reason I'm a vegetarian is I couldn't walk up to a cow, zap it, cut it to pieces and eat it, I just don't have it in me, and for that reason I don't eat it. However if I went fishing, I'd probably kill the bugger and eat it.

I'm not sure if its true but I was told by a crazy vegan girl who was ranting at me, that the reason people like meat so much is because it releases an feel good enzyme that's been around for ages. This enzyme was like a pat on the back for hunting and taking an animal down..But she could of been insane..

 

[wewontdie11]

> From a religious stand point, I think some where in genesis it says about eating anything except the fruits of one tree, and seeing man was created with K9's at the front, these teeth rip up meat, why would god have given us hem if not to eat meat

The biblical standpoint on food differs with each book. In Leviticus (I forget the chapter/verse) it says you can only eat animals of cloven or parted hoof, animals with scales and birds that don't eat flesh, but in Verses, God says it is fine to eat anything you want so long as the meat doesn't have blood in it.

Best not to pay too much attention to the diets described in the bible I think.

Let`s not mix up biology and religion.
We have pointy teeth, it`s for eating meat no doubt just like herbivores don`t have pointy teeth. However, humans also have large brains and can make choices and thus overrule instincts. Thus, it is fine for a vegetarian to choose to not eat meat, and it`s also fine for a non-vegetarian to eat meat.
I see no subject to hating in here. If you get hate for being a vegetarian while not bothering others for it, I apologize in their name.

Oh no I totally agree with you that it's blatantly obvious we have evolved to become omnivorous in quite a few ways, teeth, enzymes, bacteria and such forth in the digestive system and the appendix losing use probably had something to do with an increasingly carnivorous diet as well, but I was merely attempting to expand upon the ambiguity surrounding food in the bible.

 

[Amnestic]

Every vegetarian I know is a self-rightous militant crusader

No, it's just me so far.

You obviously haven't known me for long.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.73537?page=1

Good times.

For the first ten pages before it devolved into a mass of repeated arguments, perhaps

Hitler was a vegetarian and you instigated the murder of millions.

BZZT. Hitler was forced into a vegetarian diet by his doctor for a brief time for health reasons. Nice try though.

Ah, I see, so vegetarians who are vegetarians for health reasons aren't real vegetarians by your viewpoint then? Interesting.

Edit: Oh, and I request a source supporting said statement above, considering this is the first instance I've heard of such a thing.

 

[Combined]

I don't MIND vegetarians. I don't care what they eat. I don't even care if they try to get me to give up meat.

It's fine if they do, I can accept that vegetarian diets may or may not offer a healthier lifestyle. But I can't eat vegetables. Or fruits.

The only time I dislike vegetarians is when they try to get me to eat their food, because they think I'm childish or being stupid for not eating vegetables, no matter how many times I explain that I can't eat either. I can eat in very little doses, but If I eat say, a piece of carrot and then another one right after that, I may have to spend the afternoon in the bathroom.

If they wouldn't do that, I'd be fine with all of them.

 

[Mr. Moose]

I hate it when the ONLY reason they have of being a vegetarian is that they read one of those books about the meat industry.

Tells a lot about one's mental capacity.