Video Games Are Officially Art!

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Legendsmith

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jamesworkshop said:
Legendsmith said:
Music is art
2D and 3D images and 3D models are art
Storytelling is an art.
Animation is an art.

Video games combine all these and add interactivity. To say that video games are not an artform is to say that the above things are not an artform either.
so an art gallery is a piece of art in and of itself because it contains art?
Don't you use a strawman argument on me.
I said combine. Not contain.
Video games are a composite of the things I listed. They all come together to create the experience that a video game gives.
Like in a purely visual composite, if one image is low quality or otherwise poor, it detracts from the overall composite image. Likewise, if one factor of a videogame is bad, be it terrible, unfitting music, poor character animations or a horrible plot, it detracts from the overall game experience. An art gallery merely contains art. One bad piece doesn't necessarily effect the other pieces, but it can.
Arranging (or compositing) other pieces of art can be considered an artfrom, as I mentioned above. So yes, an art gallery could be considered art. Ever heard the expression "an artful arrangement of?"
Well, it is possible to have an artful arrangement of art.

Anyway, Architecture can also be considered an artform. Therefore, buildings can be art. Whether or not it's an art Gallery is irrelevant, but there could be a magnificent work of architecture that is also an art gallery.
 

PhoenixVanguard

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While the government's backing is nice, I could've sworn that video games became art the very instant that someone making one used it as a medium of expression. I guess I'm glad everyone else is catching up now, though.
 

Kagim

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The only reason why this is good for the US:

It means it gains protection from censorship.

Why this is actually really depressing to think about:

Most people will be celebrating a fact simply because it justifies there ego. Their not happy that developers everywhere are now able to protect their ideas with government backing. There happy because it means they can call there 16 hour halo marathon a tribute to fine art.

What makes me sigh personally however was the big kerfuffle (That's a real word apparently so i am using it) is all the people saying "Fuck Roger ebert!"

Seriously. Who the fuck cares what he says. Hell, how many people even knew who he was before they read the PA comic about it. And to anyone who actually did know who he was before what did you care what some old fart thinks about how you choose to kill time? People are screaming fuck Roger Ebert? If this old fart had that much of an effect on your life that your first thought is sticking it to some guy you have never met and whose opinion literally doesn't matter any more then you desire it then... Well... I don't really know what to say...

You just might want to step back and re-evaluate your life for a moment.
 

Ericb

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Innegativeion said:
mjc0961 said:
Okay. I fail to see why I should care, though. I'm not going to enjoy games any more or any less than I did before this.
Well, besides silly laws like the one in California having a very weak argument now, some of us (myself) are interested in a career in the game design industry.

Sure, it won't affect every gamer, but I think it's important enough news to be considered "big news"
Damn right. And may I congratulate on your ambitions. Good luck with those crunch times, though.

no space said:
Well, I guess that means the paper I was working on is kind of useless, but this is fantastic news.
Might as well share it now.

starfox444 said:
Atheist. said:
starfox444 said:
As an engineering student I look down upon all arts by default.

WHY DID THEY RUIN VIDEOGAMES FOR ME!?
But art has such an incredible impact on structural engineering. Why would you look down on something that helped innovate your field?
Did you just take that comment I made seriously?
Ok, I'll admit I've been trolled. I just had the good luck to read this before replying. ¬¬

Innegativeion said:
He's from a different time with a different angle on what art is.
From what I remember, he was very specific about it not being art because of authorial control being relinquished on account of players interacting with the author's creation, which was a weak point of argument to begin with.

He basically threw interactive theater right out of the picture with that.

Torrasque said:
Like all Art, there will be ones which deserve the title and ones produced by special children with their head in the Kool Aid bowl.
Thank you, the contrast in your examples is of oceanic proportions.

ionveau said:
Art = the raw expression of a single person

Product = A thing made with multiple inputs from marketing/development etc in order to attract buyers

Video games are as much art as your OS interface
Even da Vinci and Michaelangelo did works for money.

Ashcrexl said:
goddammit. now i'll have one less thing to have pointless arguments on the internet about.

what will get me unnecessarily upset now?
C'mon, this is the internet.
 

Torrasque

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Ericb said:
Torrasque said:
Like all Art, there will be ones which deserve the title and ones produced by special children with their head in the Kool Aid bowl.
Thank you, the contrast in your examples is of oceanic proportions.
Uhh... I don't recall saying that.
*checks back at original post*
Nope, didn't say that.
I don't mind you paraphrasing me, but don't put words in my mouth.