Video Games blamed for US Massacre in Iraq

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evilninja60 said:
so...did they get the high score?
They would have, but they got points deducted for each civilian killed. If it wasn't for the mission complete bonus they would have actually lost points.
 

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yeah... when you don't hardly ever see the actual blast even, let alone only see dots, it'd be hard to think of your target as a fellow human being.

I wonder what the pilot of hte Enola Gay was thinking...
 

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Jim Grim said:
Uh, they clearly weren't blaming video games in that article, I think the comparison was more that they were treating the people they were shooting at like virtual characters and trying to go for the 'high score.' In this case it seems to be you that's overeacting.
Did you actually watch the video with the guys speech at the end, And not just read the article? There is no way that anyone can claim that the guy was not insinuating that it was all the fault of Video games.
 

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They were acting like they were playing a video game, or a sport at least, rather than performing a military operation.

One of them was saying rhetorically "Just pick up a weapon" (The implication being that if the man did so he'd be shot again, regardless of the fact that an AK-47 wouldn't be much use against the chopper anyway.

Jim Grim said:
Uh, they clearly weren't blaming video games in that article, I think the comparison was more that they were treating the people they were shooting at like virtual characters and trying to go for the 'high score.' In this case it seems to be you that's overeacting.
Welcome to The Escapist, where pedestals are two for a dollar. To be honest I doubt most people even read the article before replying.
 

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Void(null) said:
Jim Grim said:
Uh, they clearly weren't blaming video games in that article, I think the comparison was more that they were treating the people they were shooting at like virtual characters and trying to go for the 'high score.' In this case it seems to be you that's overeacting.
Did you actually watch the video with the guys speech at the end, And not just read the article? There is no way that anyone can claim that the guy was not insinuating that it was all the fault of Video games.
Yes I did, and I think the whole 'generation xbox' thing was something to do with that mans belief that people of that generation are more desensitised to violence than others might have been, and while you could consider that a flawed opinion, it's not a direct jab at video games specifically.
 

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Audioave10 said:
This kind of blame-game is getting old and tiresome.
Sorry 'getting'? It was old the first time someone used videogames as a scapegoat. The bandwagoners (is that even a word?) just make it worse. But never mind, 3D movies are becoming quite popular now so maybe they'll take the future blame.
 

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Reep said:
That poor dead horse
My thoughts exactly.

I really don't get mad at this anymore, it's like getting mad whenever a CEO gets some giant bonus; it's never gonna stop.
 

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Jim Grim said:
Void(null) said:
Jim Grim said:
Uh, they clearly weren't blaming video games in that article, I think the comparison was more that they were treating the people they were shooting at like virtual characters and trying to go for the 'high score.' In this case it seems to be you that's overeacting.
Did you actually watch the video with the guys speech at the end, And not just read the article? There is no way that anyone can claim that the guy was not insinuating that it was all the fault of Video games.
Yes I did, and I think the whole 'generation xbox' thing was something to do with that mans belief that people of that generation are more desensitised to violence than others might have been, and while you could consider that a flawed opinion, it's not a direct jab at video games specifically.
So the guy giving the report in essence, states that this sort of incident is because Generation X-Box has grown up with violence and thus they treat war like a game, murdering civilians like they are going for a high score... and to you this has nothing to do with someone portraying a negative stereotypical portrait of your average gamer in the media, stating that we are all genocidal mass-murdering baby killing psychopaths in the making because we have lost any connection with reality because we have killed our minds and our hearts with violent video games?

Really, really not hard to read between the lines of what he is saying with this one.
 

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Yes lets make it so its even harder for our troops to defend themselves.
"command We're taking fire, request permission to engage"
- "have you lost more than 25 men yet?"
"NO!"
-"permission denied, these might just be people accidentally shooting you, let us know when you've lost more, then we'll know these are hostiles.
 

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Void(null) said:
...stating that we are all genocidal mass-murdering baby killing psychopaths in the making because we have lost any connection with reality because we have killed our minds and our hearts with violent video games?
He stated that? Wow.

Anyway, I think that for one thing he never directly made the connection with gaming, only insinuating a loose tie-in with gaming culture, and I don't think his intent was to attack the hobby. People on this site seem very eager to jump to their own defense even when they're not actually being attacked.
 

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It wasn't said specifically that games were at fault. And the rhetoric wasn't leading to that conclusion. I hope other people see it that way too, or it might turn to "blaming the games".
 

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Well, of course someone made that comparsion. When you're sitting in a hovering doom fortress that is modern combat helicopter and looking at a black-and-white screen, it's pretty easy to imagine that you're shooting wooden ducks rather than real people. I'm pretty sure those two idiots wouldn't so carelessly murder anyone if they were on the ground.

Between gunships, snipers, and artillery, is there even a time in modern war when you can actually see your enemy?

[HEADING=3]Oh, and mandatory MW2 joke: CHOPPER GUNNER IS UNBALAAAAANCED! FOR LEAAAAAAN![/HEADING]
 

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Honestly i saw no evidence that the people killed were civilian (not including the van) i mean if you watch the video it looks like they have ak's and rpg's just my opinion but i think its a load of bull. People just want more "proof" that the american military is evil. As for the whole video game argument, what doesn't the media blame on video games i mean even over a decade ago they blamed the original doom on the columbine shootings its just the way things go. But as we all know angry mothers know best i mean look how prohibition turned out more the U.S.