Vietnamese kid kills a girl due to video games.....

[PlasmaFrog]

Oh, yes, because it's video games that did this after all. No possible way that human error could be involved, no sir!

Also, another one of these? We all know how this always ends.

 

[matt87_50]

hey, if someone dies at an anti video game violence protest, does that mean we get to say being against violent video games is dangerous and reckless?

 

[matt87_50]

a side note to the captcha guys: a program is the automation of human thought process.

you will inevitably loose.

 

[Omey]

That is scary

But compare it with this:

My aunt teaches in a tribal school that is located in village some 100 km from Mumbai.2 yrs ago there was a murder case wherein two teenage boys murdered one of their own classmates -The Reason:School gets a 2 week holiday on tragic events!

That wasnt related to the post but I wanted to say that teenage violence can be due to many reasons.In this case of course videogames were the motivation for the act-but it wasnt the CAUSE.
The cause can be anything from a hard childhood to abusive parents...We need to look beyond videogames for that

 

[Raddra]

lady, listen. it's not games that made your son commit suicide. it's probably what prevented him from suiciding much, much earlier.
if she had done her duty as a mother, she would have known something was wrong with him, and that it wasn't the videogames.

Agreed so much, it really annoys me how many bad parents try to pin the blame on something else as opposed to their own bad parenting.

 

[The Stonker]

My thought is that there are addicts in every single walks of life, I mean lets face it guys, everything is addicting.
Football is addicting.
Excersise is addicting.
Alchahol is addicting.
Etc, etc.
So why are we excusing that things can't be addicting? Sure, you can get addicted to video games but I think this needs a bit more then just being hooked on a game.
Maybe the kid has serious psychological problems?
Maybe he's retarded?
Who knows?
That's why I always hate it when people point at video games and say that they're the devil, why not INVESTIGATE! Why the hell did he do it?
I would probably guess that he has a shit life and that he has anger management issues, not due to his video gaming, but rather to well, psychological problems.

 

[Ashcrexl]

maaaaaaaan, he totally looks like that angry chinese kid from the karate (kung-fu) kid remake.

remember media, correlation does not imply causation. this kid would have eventually killed someone eventually anyway regardless of whether he played video games or not. oh who am i kidding, you dont give a fuck. you're the media.

 

[LCP]

Some people are unbalanced... if games didn't exist he would have been addicted to something else.

Headline should read, "psychotic kid kills a person for money"

 

[intheweeds]

Not sure where on earth she managed to get that statistic. I'm also curious as to why her son felt the need to commit suicide due to an addiction to video gaming.

The ultimate rage quit?

This is what I wanted to post about! Has anyone done any research on this Elizibeth Wooley character? SERIOUSLY - online game addiction IS a big deal and some people really do need help, but this woman is completely insane! Watch 'Second Skin', shes in it 'explaining' things. She comes off as someones crazy cat lady aunt.

Why does the media turn to this lunatic as some kind of expert? Can no one see she is uneducated? Some REAL psychology expert needs to start an online gaming addiction group so it can gain some real clout.

P.S. In 'Second Skin' she describes it more. The son was seriously depressed. He was gaming all the time to avoid people and the world. If it wasn't gaming he used to hide, it would have been something else. This woman is NUTS!

P.P.S. She pulled that stat out of her ass. She has no professional standing anywhere, nor do i believe she is very educated in the first place.

Edit: This is a big deal people. Some people in the gaming community need help and our 'expert' is someones crazy aunt who doesn't play or understand games at all. Surely i'm not the only one who thinks so? There has to be some way the community can support these people better.

 

[notimeforlulz]

That kid committed pre-meditated murder. For a kid that age to even think of that, and the way to hide it, fuck. And the fact that he killed someone who was 7 years old, when he's 15, some one so weak and vulnerable compared to him, says to me that he's a fucking sadist more than he is a nut-job. Cutting up the earings, and hiding them, sounds like something a serial killer does.

As for here comes the gaming flaming, the only thing that could link the game to it is that the kid is 15, which is the earliest possible statistical age for psychosis onset to begin. So if he took the notion of killing for loot a bit too far, as a part of an onset of insanity, which could have been influence by the online culture in the game, same as media motivated the John Lennon killing, then the game could be blamed. But for his psychosis to have developed to that point if it were the case, doesn't speak well of Vietnam's mental health awareness or facilities.

But looking at his actions, the fact that he cut the earings up could be either ritual, in which case he's a serial killer, or some serious amounts of nagging guilt, in which case the kid's crazy, I really don't know which he is from this information. But whatever it is, it's not a gaming addict.


TLR? The kid is insane or a serial killer, gaming addiction had sweet fuck all to do with this.

EDIT: KEEP IN MIND, that people with mental illnesses are statistically less violent than people without them (strange statistic, but true, probably cause of all the self hate) so either this kid as crazy is in a really small percent margin of being crazy and violent, or he's a sadist, going by statistics, more likely a sadist

 

[Gitty101]

This is just monstrous. I hope he gets locked away and they throw away the key.

I highly doubt gaming is the problem though. The article mentions he cut the earrings into pieces before hiding them. Surely if he wished to 'feed' his addiction he would have sold them as quickly as possible and would not have cut them up?

Seriously messed up.

 

[intheweeds]

That kid committed pre-meditated murder. For a kid that age to even think of that, and the way to hide it, fuck. And the fact that he killed someone who was 7 years old, when he's 15, some one so weak and vulnerable compared to him, says to me that he's a fucking sadist more than he is a nut-job. Cutting up the earings, and hiding them, sounds like something a serial killer does.

As for here comes the gaming flaming, the only thing that could link the game to it is that the kid is 15, which is the earliest possible statistical age for psychosis onset to begin. So if he took the notion of killing for loot a bit too far, as a part of an onset of insanity, which could have been influence by the online culture in the game, same as media motivated the John Lennon killing, then the game could be blamed. But for his psychosis to have developed to that point if it were the case, doesn't speak well of Vietnam's mental health awareness or facilities.

But looking at his actions, the fact that he cut the earings up could be either ritual, in which case he's a serial killer, or some serious amounts of nagging guilt, in which case the kid's crazy, I really don't know which he is from this information. But whatever it is, it's not a gaming addict.


TLR? The kid is insane or a serial killer, gaming addiction had sweet fuck all to do with this.

I still don't think you could blame the game. If it is like the John Lennon killing, then you are saying essentially that 'Catcher in the Rye' produces killers. I agree with you on all other fronts though. It's just that if the kid is developing psychosis (which i agree with you is likely) ANY media could push him in that direction. Its not the games fault - it was (more-or-less) in the wrong place at the wrong time.

I think the cutting up the earrings was a third thing other than what you mentioned though. It's not guilt or a ritual. Its plain old necessity. he had to 'hide the loot' until he had time/opportunity to turn it into money. It speaks further to the premeditated aspect of the whole thing.

 

[Thyunda]

Um. Where does it say he killed her to sell the earrings in order for money to play his game? It said that he told them HOW he did it, but not actually WHY. It just also seems like he mentioned that he played the game at an Internet café...

 

[notimeforlulz]

from the article:

Elizabeth Woolley, who set up Online Gamers Anonymous after her son Shawn committed suicide because of his addiction to online games, said it was time governments stepped in and did something about the ever-growing habit.

lady, listen. it's not games that made your son commit suicide. it's probably what prevented him from suiciding much, much earlier.
if she had done her duty as a mother, she would have known something was wrong with him, and that it wasn't the videogames.

Whoa hang on, so you, without any facts are blaming the mother from not being able to prevent her son's suicide? That is just as low and speculative as the people blaming videogames for causing violent behaviour

I think his point is that the video game was unlikely to have directly caused the kid to commit suicide, but some other stress in his life could have. Maybe he was being bullied, or doing badly in school. The mother simply didn't notice these, and when he did himself in, she assumed it was something to do with his favourite hobby. Its a much more likely scenario, although there is also the possibility that he actually was messed up enough to kill himself purely over a game. Its just somewhat doubtful. Only the people who knew him personally could say for sure, and only the mother knows whether she really was paying enough attention to spot the true cause of his state of mind.

Ya that's my point, only the people who know that situation can speculate as to what caused her son's suicide. Where I stake issue is him claiming she failed as a mother for not being able to prevent it

He's not claiming that she could have stopped him, he's claiming that she wasn't paying enough attention to notice the real cause for his depression, which would have allowed her to talk with him about it, get him help, and at least have a chance to prevent it. He is of course still making the assumption that video games were not a direct cause for his suicide, but to be honest, I'd highly doubt that the kid killed himself because his WoW subscription was out of date, or because he was having an off day in Call of Duty.

I'd imagine it could be because he lost his online friends.

 

[Silent Anima]

I've been playing videogames for most of my life now and I also feel like I have to have them, so you know what I do. I have a job and wait every week for a paycheck SERIOUSLY WHO KILLS SOMEONE!!!!