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Dio Brando from JoJo's Bizarre Adventure Part 1: Phantom Blood.
Warning: Wall o' text and spoilers ahead!
At the age of 12 Dio was adopted by the wealthy George Joestar after Dio killed his own father. Upon arrival to this family Dio immediately took advantage of this kindness and started making life hell for Jonathan, the only son of George, intent on making Jonathan commit suicide from depression so that once George died (Dio was slowly killing George by slipping poison into his drinks) Dio would inherit the Joestar fortune. Dio beat the shit out of Jonathan, stole Jonathan's girlfriend's first kiss, publicly humiliated him, made him look bad in the eyes of his father, stole his friends, and shoved his dog Danny into an incinerator. Dio was still 12 at this time.
After discovering an ancient artifact and being exposed for his attempted murder of George, Dio would use the artifact to become a bloodthirsty vampire. Dio would kill George, but be seriously wounded from his fight with Jonathan right afterwards. As a vampire, Dio needed blood to recover. A lot of it. Next time we see him fully recovered, Dio had already drained an entire city and turned the population into his zombie slaves. Upon being asked how much blood he's drained Dio simply responds by saying "Do you remember how much bread you've ever eaten?" Jonathan, his friends, and his master Zeppelli take it upon themselves to stop Dio, but Dio's zombies kill Zeppelli and Dio himself kills one of Jonathan's comrades.
Dio's actions as a vampire also include making terrible monsters that are the result of taking zombie parts and mixing them with various animals and making a mother eat her own baby.
Eventually, Dio is defeated by Jonathan, seemingly for good. So Jonathan gets married and plans to take a boat to America to spend his honeymoon. Little did he know that Dio won't stay dead, and is on the ship. However he's so badly wounded that he's just a decapitated head at this point, and needs a strong new body. Who better than his brother Jonathan? Dio catches Jonathan by surprise and kills him right in front of his wife, takes his body, and rests for 100 years to return in Part 3.
Honestly, Dio is a monster, but I think I hate him the most for his last act in Part 1. Throughout Phantom Blood, we see Jonathan grow from a meek little boy into a real man. He made countless sacrifices and never once strayed from what he thought was right. He went after Dio because he felt obligated to cleanse Dio's evil from the world to avenge his father, and eventually his master. Jonathan, by all rights, deserved a happy ending, but it was cut off by Dio. Even in his last moments he saved his wife and a baby (the only two to survive on the ship) and even forgave Dio. Saying that he still felt a strange sense of brotherhood as his life ended.
However, this is just Part 1. This doesn't account for the consequences of Dio's actions in Part 2, or his return in Part 3, or how his actions throughout the years eventually kill every protagonist from parts 2-6 (kinda).
Warning: Wall o' text and spoilers ahead!
At the age of 12 Dio was adopted by the wealthy George Joestar after Dio killed his own father. Upon arrival to this family Dio immediately took advantage of this kindness and started making life hell for Jonathan, the only son of George, intent on making Jonathan commit suicide from depression so that once George died (Dio was slowly killing George by slipping poison into his drinks) Dio would inherit the Joestar fortune. Dio beat the shit out of Jonathan, stole Jonathan's girlfriend's first kiss, publicly humiliated him, made him look bad in the eyes of his father, stole his friends, and shoved his dog Danny into an incinerator. Dio was still 12 at this time.
After discovering an ancient artifact and being exposed for his attempted murder of George, Dio would use the artifact to become a bloodthirsty vampire. Dio would kill George, but be seriously wounded from his fight with Jonathan right afterwards. As a vampire, Dio needed blood to recover. A lot of it. Next time we see him fully recovered, Dio had already drained an entire city and turned the population into his zombie slaves. Upon being asked how much blood he's drained Dio simply responds by saying "Do you remember how much bread you've ever eaten?" Jonathan, his friends, and his master Zeppelli take it upon themselves to stop Dio, but Dio's zombies kill Zeppelli and Dio himself kills one of Jonathan's comrades.
Dio's actions as a vampire also include making terrible monsters that are the result of taking zombie parts and mixing them with various animals and making a mother eat her own baby.
Eventually, Dio is defeated by Jonathan, seemingly for good. So Jonathan gets married and plans to take a boat to America to spend his honeymoon. Little did he know that Dio won't stay dead, and is on the ship. However he's so badly wounded that he's just a decapitated head at this point, and needs a strong new body. Who better than his brother Jonathan? Dio catches Jonathan by surprise and kills him right in front of his wife, takes his body, and rests for 100 years to return in Part 3.
Honestly, Dio is a monster, but I think I hate him the most for his last act in Part 1. Throughout Phantom Blood, we see Jonathan grow from a meek little boy into a real man. He made countless sacrifices and never once strayed from what he thought was right. He went after Dio because he felt obligated to cleanse Dio's evil from the world to avenge his father, and eventually his master. Jonathan, by all rights, deserved a happy ending, but it was cut off by Dio. Even in his last moments he saved his wife and a baby (the only two to survive on the ship) and even forgave Dio. Saying that he still felt a strange sense of brotherhood as his life ended.
However, this is just Part 1. This doesn't account for the consequences of Dio's actions in Part 2, or his return in Part 3, or how his actions throughout the years eventually kill every protagonist from parts 2-6 (kinda).
Well I was scanning down the thread to see if anyone else brought up this ass hole. And here it is so let me add another vote for Handsome Jack. On top of being a total self absorbed prick, this ass hole spends the entire game with the belief that he is the hero. I could not wait to kill this guy.Mikkel421427 said:
Marlo Stanfield. Anyone that's seen The Wire knows that this guy is a vile ************ of epic proportions.
Honestly though, I don't think that's the best type of villain. I prefer a Magneto or, going back to The Wire, Avon Barksdale. Villains are best when you can relate to them.
Dolores Umbridge, Joffrey and Handsome Jack all make my list too. My one pick might be one a little less known: Honiden Osugi from Musashi. If more people knew her, we'd have her at the top of many "biggest cunts" lists. She is manipulative, vengeful, stubborn, malicious and all that sort of stuff. At one point she pretends to be her niece's friend, only to try to have her killed by his son moments later. A despicable ***** if there ever was one.
was said earlier but The Governor from The Walking Dead (Graphic novel) is such a gloriously fucked up character and does SUCH a good job of wanting me to kill him in the most gruesome of ways everything that happened to him was well deserved
I don't know, besides being awesome, he did manage to plot within plot within plot. He's like Tzeench.EcoEclipse said:
Shu Shirkawa, and Code Evil from super robot wars.
Shu is a smug bastard who exists to piss you off. Has a barrier. Regenerates 30% of his hp each turn. his only attack that doesn't require energy has only 1 range. Not to mention he wants to sacrifice every one on earth to Volkrus, and murdered Masaki's Dad.
Code Evil, well that ***** killed and desecrated all 5 of the non-mass produced huckebiens.
Shu is a smug bastard who exists to piss you off. Has a barrier. Regenerates 30% of his hp each turn. his only attack that doesn't require energy has only 1 range. Not to mention he wants to sacrifice every one on earth to Volkrus, and murdered Masaki's Dad.
Code Evil, well that ***** killed and desecrated all 5 of the non-mass produced huckebiens.
I think a point has been missed here. It's not a movie I'd watch again, but there's a lot more going on than what you described.RJ 17 said:I understand that it's a character study, but there should be a point to it. Why should I care about this jackass? What are you trying to say about the character?Vault101 said:thats...kind of the point, it was a charachter studyRJ 17 said:] And that's why There Will Be Blood is the worst, most boring movie I have ever seen.
the funny thing is I watched it and wondered "I don;t get it...why is he supposed to be so evil?" I honestly watched nearly the whole thing and didn't see him as all that bad except where he kind of neglects his son and of coarse his freak out at the end, I feel some of his actions can be interpreted different ways...or at least thats how I read it
What makes him "evil" is that he puts money and profit above all else, the neglect of his son is one of the focal points of this, because it's not even his son, it's just some guy's baby that was on the job with him. Why did he want a kid of his own? So he could travel around giving the whole "I'm a family man" shpeel so he could say "Heeeeyyy, I'm just your friendly neighborhood oil tycoon, here to make a profit off your land." He uses everyone and everything in order to make a profit. In short: it's his rampant, unapologetic greed that makes him "evil".
And what's the point? Rampant greed gets you everything you want, you'll just be an asshole for it. But you'll have a bowling alley in your house and all the milkshakes you can drink!
Even character studies should have some form of conflict for which the character does a little self reflection. In this one the guy just keeps winning, there is no true confrontation of his character to examine the flaws in his character.
It's rather clear at the end that Plainview is not a happy man. He may have bowling alleys and milkshakes, but the kind of bitterness he displays is not the kind of thing associated with happy human beings. He's really rather pathetic, and his last words ("I'm finished") suggest that he knows that the fun he just had is probably the last he'll ever have, and he's wondering if it was really that good of a trade.
As for journeys, I think a point was also missed: Plainview doesn't change, and remains a miserable, pathetic, self-destructive human being because of it. His adopted son H.W., on the other hand does change, and washes his hands of Plainview as Plainview attempts to wash his hands of H.W. The victor and closest thing to a hero in the movie is H.W.
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Video games:
Edgar Ross, Red Dead Redemption. A capricious thug who honestly believes his badge, tie, and job make him a good guy. Berates Marston every chance he gets for his past crimes, but is perfectly willing to throw away dozens of lives and destroy many others in the process of taking him out, after Marston has tried to leave that life behind.
Ambassador Udina, Mass Effect. I have not played ME3, but so far Udina has been diligently working against the interests of his own species. He could be forgiven for his first unwitting betrayal, but is completely unapologetic after it was proven that he could not have been more wrong, and learns nothing from his past mistakes.
General Randall, Prototype. He's been preparing for 40 years to do what he has to in order to protect his country... from a threat he helped create, and that he could have eliminated at any time during those 40 years. Its his smug patriotism against a danger that he has been not only responsible for but actively making worse, and his inability to recognize that he is the real problem, that is so infuriating.
Literature:
Edouard De Gex, the Baroque Cycle. An 18th Century Jesuit Priest who sees the fall of aristocracy and the success of the Enlightenment as moral degeneracy, yet is captured by the Inquisition in Mexico while undercover (as a Jew or Protestant, can't remember which) and later comments that his treatment at the hands of his torturers made him decide that the Mexican inquisition is a bit lax. He suggests that if he gets the opportunity he'd like to see to it that they do a "proper" job of things. Yikes.
Handsome Jack from Borderlands 2. I love him because I hate his guts, and if he was a real person, I'd probably be fighting off the urge to strangle him to death.
Kessler didn't really make a lot of sense though, he could have easily stopped almost if not all of those future events from happening, it was one of the dumbest plot twists I've seen in a game, and is only further ruined in its sequel.Professor Lupin Madblood said:
Also I'm pretty sure he spoiled Bayonetta, not Game of Thrones.