Villains you feel sorry for
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Andrew Ryan, although he wasn't strictly a "villian", but an aspirational figure who saw his dreams corrupted, and desperately tried to salvage them.
It's also the reason that when I play through Bioshock again, everytime "Atlas" speaks it fills me with a sense of dread.
It's also the reason that when I play through Bioshock again, everytime "Atlas" speaks it fills me with a sense of dread.
Saren, Hes a true soldier who tried to protect people by paying the ultimate cost but he was tricked into doing the opposite
Colonel Augustus Autumn(fallout 3) because his plan was more sane and like though controlling the water, gaining the support of the people and killing the undesired would eventually tame the wasteland a lot faster then say the presidents plan to kill everyone and start from starch I wish they made an option for me to join him instead of the president.
Ganondorf. In Wind Waker especially, he comes across as a character almost in need of pity, rather than scorn. Yes, he's an evil super-villain. Yes, he unleashes hordes of monsters. Yes, he keeps trying to conquer the same Kingdom over and over again, endlessly thwarted by a ten year old boy, but despite that there is a side to him that pulls at your heart strings.
My personal theory on Ganondorf is that, like Link and Zelda, he is enslaved to the role he plays. However, whereas each Link and each Zelda endure the saga once, then live out the rest of their lives largely trouble free, Ganondorf is always the same individual; doomed to spend eternity being shot with Light Arrows and stabbed with the Master Sword.
Moreover, since the 'reinventing' of the Series in Ocarina, each character has been bound to a piece of the Triforce. Ganondorf is bound to the Triforce of Power, and he has used that to consume the world in Darkness. One could assume, therefore, that the Triforce itself may exert itself upon him; he is enslaved to the rage and fury that were his strongest traits when he first touched the Triforce, now forever doomed to follow that destructive path.
In the rare moments of lucidity before and after his duels with Link, Ganondorf often appears a sorrowful individual. Born into a harsh, unforgiving land, bound to an endlessly repeating Legend, consumed by powers mortals were never meant to wield, and cursed with immortality to ensure he can never end his forsaken existence.
I feel sorry for Ganondorf.
My personal theory on Ganondorf is that, like Link and Zelda, he is enslaved to the role he plays. However, whereas each Link and each Zelda endure the saga once, then live out the rest of their lives largely trouble free, Ganondorf is always the same individual; doomed to spend eternity being shot with Light Arrows and stabbed with the Master Sword.
Moreover, since the 'reinventing' of the Series in Ocarina, each character has been bound to a piece of the Triforce. Ganondorf is bound to the Triforce of Power, and he has used that to consume the world in Darkness. One could assume, therefore, that the Triforce itself may exert itself upon him; he is enslaved to the rage and fury that were his strongest traits when he first touched the Triforce, now forever doomed to follow that destructive path.
In the rare moments of lucidity before and after his duels with Link, Ganondorf often appears a sorrowful individual. Born into a harsh, unforgiving land, bound to an endlessly repeating Legend, consumed by powers mortals were never meant to wield, and cursed with immortality to ensure he can never end his forsaken existence.
I feel sorry for Ganondorf.
I'm sure someone has already mentioned this, but I think Dagoth Ur from Morrowind evokes the most sympathy from me, personally.
He's basically Boromir. Left alone with a corrupting influence, told to guard it... and he does, in a sense.
Also, I'd like to mention Isair and Medae from Icewind Dale II. They sort of neatly lampshade the whole "These races are evil so let's wipe 'em out!" side to D&D by playing it from the other side.
It's a sly dig at the old 'racial cleansing of goblins and assorted nasties' archetype of most old-school D&D adventures.
Like Dagoth Ur, Isair and Medea ask you about your motivation for stopping them at the end of the game and it's a tricky thing to answer (And yes, one of the answers is "Uh... Because I was told to?".) without sounding as bigoted as they are.
He's basically Boromir. Left alone with a corrupting influence, told to guard it... and he does, in a sense.
Also, I'd like to mention Isair and Medae from Icewind Dale II. They sort of neatly lampshade the whole "These races are evil so let's wipe 'em out!" side to D&D by playing it from the other side.
It's a sly dig at the old 'racial cleansing of goblins and assorted nasties' archetype of most old-school D&D adventures.
Like Dagoth Ur, Isair and Medea ask you about your motivation for stopping them at the end of the game and it's a tricky thing to answer (And yes, one of the answers is "Uh... Because I was told to?".) without sounding as bigoted as they are.
Andrew Ryan from Bioshock. Just thinking about it makes me want to go back and read "Atlas Shrugged" again.
I would say the Joker from The Dark Knight, not really because i sympathize with him, but 'cus he was SO EFFING AWESOME. Smith and The Architect from The Matrix. I loved watching the scene in the first Matrix with Smith and Morpheus, where Smith tells Morpheus how he is trying to escape the machines and free himself, and just seeing 10 million of that kind of villian was pretty epic as well. I know the scene with the Architect wasnt really that long, and he couldnt be called a major "villian", but I loved listening to the speech he gave Neo.
And also the Devil from Fantasia. Now WAIT NO im not sympathizing with the devil! 0_o But just the character artistry, the way he never actually talks or communicates with the audience, how hes just this ominous intimidating prescence is so powerful, i had to mention him.
And also the Devil from Fantasia. Now WAIT NO im not sympathizing with the devil! 0_o But just the character artistry, the way he never actually talks or communicates with the audience, how hes just this ominous intimidating prescence is so powerful, i had to mention him.
I kinda feel sorry for Saren in Mass Effect.
He starts out as the bad guy but really, he's just brainwashed by Sentient AI who want to kill everything everywhere.
Also you can make Saren see the error of his ways, upon which, he takes a bullet to the brain-pan from his own gun. Squish.
Also you can make Saren see the error of his ways, upon which, he takes a bullet to the brain-pan from his own gun. Squish.
cave troll - LOTR:FOTR
He's big and mean looking but he is clearly led in by a chain, tormented by the goblins and orcs that have captured him and maybe tortured him, his scared body might not be all battle wounds.
He looks pretty intent on killing Frodo I'll grant you but the ring drives good things bad, tortured bad things are already on its side so it would be easy for it to control them. Plus he's (pressumably) been trained to kill/tortured into being nasty.
He's death wail is so sorrowful that he makes me sad, and I'm only glad that it's a clean arrow through the brain that may not have hurt as much as being bludgeoned by dwarves may have done.
You see more cave trolls on top of the black gates being whipped into their immense task of pulling open the gate and it makes me a little sad.
Of course it is implied that trolls are generally nasty creatures - the 3 that try to eat the dwarves in bilbos adventures in The Hobbit for example, but what if the cave troll would have just left any passing travellers alone, living in his cave eating...fish or something I don't know.
Ok i don't feel THAT sorry for him but still - it stands to reason.
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He's big and mean looking but he is clearly led in by a chain, tormented by the goblins and orcs that have captured him and maybe tortured him, his scared body might not be all battle wounds.
He looks pretty intent on killing Frodo I'll grant you but the ring drives good things bad, tortured bad things are already on its side so it would be easy for it to control them. Plus he's (pressumably) been trained to kill/tortured into being nasty.
He's death wail is so sorrowful that he makes me sad, and I'm only glad that it's a clean arrow through the brain that may not have hurt as much as being bludgeoned by dwarves may have done.
You see more cave trolls on top of the black gates being whipped into their immense task of pulling open the gate and it makes me a little sad.
Of course it is implied that trolls are generally nasty creatures - the 3 that try to eat the dwarves in bilbos adventures in The Hobbit for example, but what if the cave troll would have just left any passing travellers alone, living in his cave eating...fish or something I don't know.
Ok i don't feel THAT sorry for him but still - it stands to reason.
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From the top of my head, magneto ( when i saw X3 and he was moving the chess pieces at the end i was hoping he would get his powers back and kill everyone ), alma of course. I mean if i were in her place i wouldn't even bother with all the psych, i'd get my sons together, have a nice sit down and talk. If they help me i'll let them live, if not then i'll kill them for being ingrates. Then i'll go on to take over the world with my two boys. =D
Yeah, I kind of felt sorry for Saren, he's a very interesting character I might add. I don't know if any of you guys have played Kingdom of Paradise on the PSP, but I also felt sorry for the villain Gikio, he only wanted to be with his son after all, but his son just couldn't bring himself to love him back and ended up killing him.orannis62 said:
The androids in Bladerunner. They didn't really want to have to kill all of those people; they just wanted to not die. You can't help but feel sorry for Roy Batty as he dies on that rooftop.
I also felt sorry for the villain in Lost Planet. But that was mainly because I had no idea who he was. "I'm sorry, but I'm going to have cleave your giant robot in half with my giant robot."
I also felt sorry for the villain in Lost Planet. But that was mainly because I had no idea who he was. "I'm sorry, but I'm going to have cleave your giant robot in half with my giant robot."
Superboy Prime... NOT!
I really do feel bad for Magneto. He's just looking out for his homies, it's just that he does it in a violent way because he had a traumatic childhood in internment camps that he's sure is going to happen to his own kind unless he does something. Strangely, his instincts are kind of right considering how often the government gets stupid and decides giant mutant-killing robots are the answer. (Lately however, anti-mutant tensions are quite low, if only because there's only 198 of them left in the world. They're an endangered species.)
Oh, and the Alien Queen in Aliens. She watched her poor babies get fried by Sigourney Weaver!
I really do feel bad for Magneto. He's just looking out for his homies, it's just that he does it in a violent way because he had a traumatic childhood in internment camps that he's sure is going to happen to his own kind unless he does something. Strangely, his instincts are kind of right considering how often the government gets stupid and decides giant mutant-killing robots are the answer. (Lately however, anti-mutant tensions are quite low, if only because there's only 198 of them left in the world. They're an endangered species.)
Oh, and the Alien Queen in Aliens. She watched her poor babies get fried by Sigourney Weaver!
I feel kind of sorry for Andrew Ryan. He wanted to create a utopia and ended up turning into one of the very 'Parasites' he was trying to escape. Plus he got a golf club wedged in his bonce.