Villains you intentionally (or unintentionally) root for.

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infinity_turtles

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Mikeyfell said:
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Deviltongue said:
L wasn't really the villain. He was the antagonist but Light was still the villain.
that's kind of your opinion. all through death note Light was doing the right thing. he's no worse than batman.
He killed a few people who didn't deserve it but they were trying to stop him from killing bad guys.
if you look at it objectively L and the police were the ones using the underhanded tactics to try and stop a vigilante do-gooder from killing criminals

I'd take it if you played Mass Effect You'd think Garrus was the evilest thing since sliced evil bread
Nonononono! First, Batman doesn't kill people! Second, think about the consequences of Light's actions for a second. In a world where someone is reported arrested just dies, what's to stop someone from just framing someone else, getting Light to kill them for him? All he'd do is change the way people murder others. That's it. Dude just kills anyone accused of a crime, and you think that makes him a good guy? Just no.
he didn't kill everyone accused of a crime. most of the people he killed were being looked for by the cops already, or caught red handed. I'm not saying the system's perfect but in season 2 they said crime
was practically gone. I think Light is smart enough to not act without good evidence. and don't you think Gotham would be safer if the Joker and the Riddler and all the other villains would just die quietly one night..... oh crap they all ware masks shit.... well the shinnegami eyes and some kind of Bat-X ray goggles.
you're not the "Results at any cost" kind of guy are you
No, Light did not know that, and he couldn't. You kill that many people that quickly and it's impossible to know who's guilty or not. Hell, the whole "I'll take a potato chip... and eat it!" scene? He's watching the news and writing down the name of everyone reported arrested! How the hell could he have known they were guilty? If he had that kind of evidence, why would he need to watch the news to kill them off? He was killing people based on accusations, and even if they "seemed" guilty, the media makes everyone seem guilty! You never see a news report of someone being arrested where they say there's little evidence to suggest they actually did it.

Killing off the Joker and other bigtime villains in Gotham would probably help the city out, sure, but that doesn't change that fact that Batman and Light are nothing alike. Batman catches, doesn't kill, criminals he finds committing crimes. He's the vigilante antithesis of Light.

As for not being a "Results at any cost" kind of guy... No, I'm not. I'm willing to accept some pretty far extremes in some cases, but any cost is always stupid. I am however very conservative in my approach to law, because I'm of the mind that a legal system's job isn't to punish criminals but is to protect those who aren't. That's why we have a system and appeals all these rights, to make sure people aren't falsely convicted. Because when they are, you're causing needless suffering and letting the real criminal get away. Which is a good deal worse than just letting a criminal get away.
 

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Albert Wesker has always been the second best Resident Evil character (BIRKIN NUMBER ONE!). So why didn't he just finish Chris off right away in RE5!?
 

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I root for any most villian unless it's in a game and they pull off some cheap move like taking your items and health and make you beg for them back. I've always been a villainous person in games or animes or anything else. Villians are so much better in some, if not, most cases.
 

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When the Russians fight the Americans in *Insert MW FPS game here*. Seriously, why does America always have to win?

Also, Nazis/German soldiers in WW2 games.
 

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The Joker in the Dark Night. I was just really hoping Christan Bale was gonna get shot in the face somewhere in the end.
 

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Also in the show called Codename: Kids Next Door, I don't know why, but I couldn't resist rooting for King Sandy, if you know the guy. I really don't know why I do so, but then, I always thought that personality wise, almost all the KND characters are well-rounded and relatable.
Now that you mentioned Sandy I can't think of any other examples, because his motivation was totally relatable. I mean who doesn't want to marry an Asian girl? He just put more of an effort into making it happen than I ever have.
 

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infinity_turtles said:
Mikeyfell said:
infinity_turtles said:
Mikeyfell said:
Deviltongue said:
L wasn't really the villain. He was the antagonist but Light was still the villain.
that's kind of your opinion. all through death note Light was doing the right thing. he's no worse than batman.
He killed a few people who didn't deserve it but they were trying to stop him from killing bad guys.
if you look at it objectively L and the police were the ones using the underhanded tactics to try and stop a vigilante do-gooder from killing criminals

I'd take it if you played Mass Effect You'd think Garrus was the evilest thing since sliced evil bread
Nonononono! First, Batman doesn't kill people! Second, think about the consequences of Light's actions for a second. In a world where someone is reported arrested just dies, what's to stop someone from just framing someone else, getting Light to kill them for him? All he'd do is change the way people murder others. That's it. Dude just kills anyone accused of a crime, and you think that makes him a good guy? Just no.
he didn't kill everyone accused of a crime. most of the people he killed were being looked for by the cops already, or caught red handed. I'm not saying the system's perfect but in season 2 they said crime
was practically gone. I think Light is smart enough to not act without good evidence. and don't you think Gotham would be safer if the Joker and the Riddler and all the other villains would just die quietly one night..... oh crap they all ware masks shit.... well the shinnegami eyes and some kind of Bat-X ray goggles.
you're not the "Results at any cost" kind of guy are you
No, Light did not know that, and he couldn't. You kill that many people that quickly and it's impossible to know who's guilty or not. Hell, the whole "I'll take a potato chip... and eat it!" scene? He's watching the news and writing down the name of everyone reported arrested! How the hell could he have known they were guilty? If he had that kind of evidence, why would he need to watch the news to kill them off? He was killing people based on accusations, and even if they "seemed" guilty, the media makes everyone seem guilty! You never see a news report of someone being arrested where they say there's little evidence to suggest they actually did it.

Killing off the Joker and other bigtime villains in Gotham would probably help the city out, sure, but that doesn't change that fact that Batman and Light are nothing alike. Batman catches, doesn't kill, criminals he finds committing crimes. He's the vigilante antithesis of Light.

As for not being a "Results at any cost" kind of guy... No, I'm not. I'm willing to accept some pretty far extremes in some cases, but any cost is always stupid. I am however very conservative in my approach to law, because I'm of the mind that a legal system's job isn't to punish criminals but is to protect those who aren't. That's why we have a system and appeals all these rights, to make sure people aren't falsely convicted. Because when they are, you're causing needless suffering and letting the real criminal get away. Which is a good deal worse than just letting a criminal get away.
It was L's invasion of Light's privacy that drove him to have to watch the news and kill everyone that got arrested that day. If he had time and didn't have to worry about the cops trying to catch him so they wouldn't be out of a job he could have slowed down and concentrated more. instead all the pressure made him act fast and unthinkingly cramming names in his book when ever he had a spare moment. I'm saying the system's not perfect the real actual justice system isn't any better. I'll bet Light would kill all those white collar criminals that destroy thousands of lives like the Enron executives that get off easy because they didn't draw blood. Is murdering a criminal worse than letting one go?
 

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infinity_turtles said:
Ladd Russo and Claire Stanfield aka The Rail Tracer, both from Baccano!, are my favorite sort of villains, and I always root for characters like them.
Aah, yes! I rooted SO hard for Claire... he makes me happy :)

I'm surprised no one's mentioned Team Rocket yet, but redlin's not here. Still, I wanted them to capture Pikachu, and Ash.
 

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Voldemort from Harry Potter. I was almost praying for it, but we all know children's books never let the bad guy win. Also, pretty much every bad guy. Is it too much to ask for?
 

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BreakfastMan said:
<-- My avatar... Also L in Death Note.
L was an antagonist, not a villain. Some folks state that Light's the actual villain protagonist of the story.
 

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Light Yagami. I consider him the villain because to most people's standards he's evil. I can't deny that, but I do agree with his choices.
 

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icyneesan said:
When the Russians fight the Americans in *Insert MW FPS game here*. Seriously, why does America always have to win?
because America has more money
oh, and an American company is making the game....that has something to do with it.

it would be nice to see something where America was the bad guy. it'd make for some really unbalanced game-play
you were from some less wealthy country that the US decided had some natural recourse it wanted. so the us makes up some WMD story and you and a rag tag band of private militants have to fight off heavily outfitted squads of high-school grads.
this sounds familiar....
 

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Well, seeing how I just finished watching the second season of Breaking Bad on DVD...

Walter White is the man. He is the hero who conflicts with your ideals at ever turn as he pushes his way ever closer to the moral event horizon. Watching a very decent man evolve into a primary antagonist is...astonishing.

You stare into the face of evil. And you love it.
 

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I always cheer for the suave mastermind kind of villain or the tragic villain who's reasons for committing evil are understandable i.e. victor freeze from the old comics and the old animated movie the only villain who gets away with this in my books is the joker because he just exists to cause havoc and burn down the world
 

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I find myself rooting for villains a fair few times, especially when the heroes deserve a beating.
 

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Rarely, but it does happen. Usually the villain is insanely intelligent, and very careful to not reveal anything.
 

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The terminator in terminator. I mean, he;s the title character! I tear up everytime I hear "You're terminated fucker!" even to this day. Some humans can be so cruel...
 

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Mikeyfell said:
It was L's invasion of Light's privacy that drove him to have to watch the news and kill everyone that got arrested that day. If he had time and didn't have to worry about the cops trying to catch him so they wouldn't be out of a job he could have slowed down and concentrated more. instead all the pressure made him act fast and unthinkingly cramming names in his book when ever he had a spare moment.
Except that isn't what he was doing before. And after. He didn't investigate, he just wrote names down. You can't kill that many people everyday and be sure they're guilty. It's impossible. Hell, it's hard enough for the police to be sure of one person's guilt when they spend weeks or months investigating. No, he was murdering a huge number of people based solely on accusations.

Mikeyfell said:
I'm saying the system's not perfect the real actual justice system isn't any better.
No, the real system is significantly better. Not perfect, sure, but it's not "murder everyone accused of a crime."

Mikeyfell said:
I'll bet Light would kill all those white collar criminals that destroy thousands of lives like the Enron executives that get off easy because they didn't draw blood. Is murdering a criminal worse than letting one go?
The question isn't is murdering a criminal better than letting one go. The question is, is murdering a civilian and letting a criminal go better than letting a criminal go? Because everyone falsely accused and murdered means the criminal who actually committed the crime goes free. You don't even need someone to be framed in order to get falsely arrested too. All that needs to happen is for the police to jump the gun based on circumstantial evidence, which happens all the time.
 

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Out of all the various villains I've seen, the ones I've wanted to win the most are probably Team Rocket. They're just so pathetic that I've always wanted them to win. It would be epic.

Mikeyfell said:
he didn't kill everyone accused of a crime. most of the people he killed were being looked for by the cops already, or caught red handed. I'm not saying the system's perfect but in season 2 they said crime
was practically gone. I think Light is smart enough to not act without good evidence. and don't you think Gotham would be safer if the Joker and the Riddler and all the other villains would just die quietly one night..... oh crap they all ware masks shit.... well the shinnegami eyes and some kind of Bat-X ray goggles.
you're not the "Results at any cost" kind of guy are you
"Results at any cost" campaigns typically don't end very well. Just saying.