Wait Wait don't tell me apologizes to Bronies, mocks itself

[Wrann]

I can admit that I do like MLP and can take a joke aimed at me for liking it. What I think is getting to the bronie community is most definatly not the small "hah you watch a show for little girls" comments but, more the blatant one sided view that has been put up by every news organization to date.

I believe that if any news outlet be it Fox, CNN, NPR any of them did a story about a new game and only played sound clips and read stuff from jack thompson, and called everyone who plays any game ever a murdering psychopath people would hate that. Most people on this board would get pissed and all up and arms with only a hand-full saying oh it was just a joke get over it.

The bronie community can laugh at itself and does so but are fed up with every single major organization that says anything about MLP is in a negative light.

 

[AmrasCalmacil]

You know who I really hate, as a brony?

Gamers.
You know them, they're those fat slobs who live in their mothers basements, are eternal virgins and always dream about killing all those well ajusted, good looking, sporty kids who bullied them in their teens. Always playing those murder simulators.

It makes me absolutely sick to my stomach the way that people like that can exist in this world of ours. Thank goodness for people like Jack Thompson and FOX news exercising the right of free speech to crack down on these serial-killers to be.

I can't believe I wrote all this out and then realised the guy above me had ninja'd me.

 

[J40kfan15]

From what i've seen it is only the minority with in the brony fanbase who was genuinely offended and felt the need to respond in a immature manner. Sure there are those who would feel annoyed when there are those who are more malicious for example calling us pedophilies or the mentally retarded manchildren unlike NPR as a attempt at comedy. The former many Bronies have dealt with worse and ignore while the latter we can laugh at ourselfs or just move on.

Ultimately a fandom is all too often judged by the quality of its worse fans who often do overeact and frankly give that rest of us more level headed fans a bad name such is the case with (practically) any group in existence.

It happens and honestly both sides and especially many of the posters in this thread should just calmdown and get over themselves.

 

[gammazuma]

This issue stems to an inability to accept feminine males in society.

This.

I loved it when NPR had a go at them. It was clearly tongue in cheek and if you feel persecuted over that you are a fucking cry baby. Imagine being someone who gets actually persecuted about something important. You'd explode.

You "bronies" do watch a show aimed at little girls and the show is about ponies. You can bloody well expect to encounter some ribbing. Stop acting like little girls. NPR shouldn't have to apologise at all.

You seem to think this issue doesn't matter at all and that men should stop acting like girls. But you know what? I'm never gonna stop acting like a girl, because I'm an incredibly feminine male. You should grow up and realize not everyone conforms to the rigid social gender norms.

Your reading comprehension isn't great, is it? You should notice I use the word little before the word girl. I don't care if you act like a girl. It is a problem if you act like a 5 year old girl though.

And yes, I don't believe adults should be acting like little girls. I also don't believe adults should start crying and act like absolute babies because their TV show got teased. It's pathetic and makes you look ridiculous. Do you have any idea how many truly persecuted groups of people there are out there? It's a joke and if you watch MLP you can expect to encounter ribbing. Everyone gets teased about something, grow a skin and deal with it. If you like the show, why the hell do you care if NPR said MLP fans live with their parents in the basement?

Sorry, I was trying to extract a greater point out of your argument. I agree, people shouldn't act like children. What NPR said brings light upon the issue of the real persecution of males into a forced gender stereotype. I've been living with this issue my whole life, don't fucking tell me this isn't a real issue. The implications of the ignorance of NPR creates a greater problem. It reinforces the stereotypes that exist today in society by assuming that anyone that watching female focused shows is a repressed manchild or something similar. Actually, males can happy and easily live a feminine life and belittling those that do live in such a way is discrimination.

 

[Jimbo1212]

So black men are unemployed, lazy, loudmouthed, uneducated gangbangers? No. A stereotype (in all instances) is wrong REGARDLESS of "validity" or connotations. Period. You defend one stereotype, you defend them all.

Statistically they are more likely to commit more crime, will have a poorer education and a worse job so a stereotype is simply an exaggerated generalisation of the truth.

 

[Jimbo1212]

Uh huh and I bet Barack Obama isn't really the president huh? Stereotypes only exists within the confines of man's imagination and are enforced by cultural standards. That isn't a truth, that is something you want to believe its true so you continue to perpetuate the stereotype. Most stereotypes come from century old ideals steeped in racism. The "truth" you love and hold dear is actually the actions of a racist society that has yet to shake those views off from itself. Do blacks get worse education? Yes, but only when society allows it happen. Black schools in the past were underfunded and a shell of what a white school was. Is that truth, or a societal pitfall? All the stereotypes ever constructed were actually lies in the subjective society of which it lives in and only exists when the society wills it to exist. Racism.

Or, now brace yourself for this, stereotypes exist due to a vast generalisation with truth in it. It has nothing to do with that pretentious garbage you spouted. Go look at some statistics outside of America and then when you have an informed opinion, we can have this debate.

 

[DEAD34345]

I'm not saying the entire fanbases are bad, but they do have some well-known examples of ludicrous fanstuffs. I'm a Halo fan, and there's a ton of really cool stuff that's out there with Halo. But there's also the annoying raving people who put us to shame.

Likewise, Sonic has a huge, and often really damn cool fanbase. The fan remakes, some of the best chiptune I have ever heard, a lot of great fanfiction and fan art...
But there's also a lot of bad stuff out there that even the fans get a giggle over.

And I have a lot of furry friends whom will agree that sparkedogs are hilarious.

And Potter fans and their My Immortal.

Most fanbases have somethings that are pretty funny, although it kinda is at the creators' expenses. Bronies don't have anything like that yet, its just too young a fanbase.

Spoiler: Well, it does, but no one's picked up on it yet, it seems.

Yeah, that's a MLP mary sue in WoW.

If we're going to laugh at fanbases and insult those who create fan content, why isn't it the worst they offer?

I wasn't saying that all Halo fans are raving fanboys, or all Sonic fans are lame. I suppose I should have been more specific.

All bronies have one thing they can be legitimately be laughed at about. At the end of the day, we do watch a program aimed at young girls. If that isn't ground for being mocked, then quite frankly I don't know what is. The NPR thing wasn't even a particularly bad example of this, the worst thing they did is imply we all live in our mothers' basement.

You didn't need to be more specific with either Halo fans or Sonic fans, there's no harm in insulting either fanbase or making presumptions about them as a whole. The only time harm becomes involved is when people take these things too seriously, and that's not the fault of the person making the insult.

Admittedly, it was kind of in poor taste to single out the creator of Equestria Daily like that, I could understand if he specifically felt offended. The fact is though, he was cool enough to just roll with it: http://www.equestriadaily.com/2011/06/npr-bronies-and-great-and-powerful.html

If the very person they brought in to insult was unconcerned by this, why is anyone else?

 

[JediMB]

There's also a difference between people who enjoy MLP, and those running around calling themselves 'bronies' and posting MLP .jpgs everywhere.

Good sir, this Brony is insulted. I would never post JPGs everywhere.

Spoiler

They're PNGs.

I mean, no one with any computer sense would ruin such nice and clean art with JPEG artifacts.

 

[JediMB]

All bronies have one thing they can be legitimately be laughed at about. At the end of the day, we do watch a program aimed at young girls.

I don't see how primary demographic legitimizes ridicule. I would think that gamers would know better than that.

If that isn't ground for being mocked, then quite frankly I don't know what is.

I would say that considering Family Guy to be humor is better grounds for mockery. Off the top of my head.

 

[DEAD34345]

All bronies have one thing they can be legitimately be laughed at about. At the end of the day, we do watch a program aimed at young girls.

I don't see how primary demographic legitimizes ridicule. I would think that gamers would know better than that.

If that isn't ground for being mocked, then quite frankly I don't know what is.

I would say that considering Family Guy to be humor is better grounds for mockery. Off the top of my head.

Now this is just sad. How can you justify criticising other's choice in entertainment when you watch My Little Pony? Is this sarcasm? Ironic?

If it is please tell me, because quite frankly it's hard to tell when communicating through a forum.

If not (and you're welcome to ignore the rest of my post if you were being sarcastic) then... what the hell? You'd think that the number 1 lesson to be learnt from watching My Little Pony would be that people like different things, and there's nothing wrong with that. You'd think people would learn that just because you don't like something, it doesn't mean it's necessarily bad. You'd think a person complaining about being ridiculed for their choice in entertainment would not do the same damn thing in the very next sentence!

I could understand if you were OK with people ridiculing My Little Pony and then ridiculed Family Guy.

I could understand if you were not OK with people ridiculing My Little Pony, and then not ridicule Family Guy.
(Though I would think you were a little over-sensitive...)

What I just can't comprehend, is how someone can be so hypocritical as to think that it's OK to put-down Family Guy viewers and imply that it's humour is somehow less legitimate than that of My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic. I mean I couldn't make this stuff up.

 

[JediMB]

All bronies have one thing they can be legitimately be laughed at about. At the end of the day, we do watch a program aimed at young girls.

I don't see how primary demographic legitimizes ridicule. I would think that gamers would know better than that.

If that isn't ground for being mocked, then quite frankly I don't know what is.

I would say that considering Family Guy to be humor is better grounds for mockery. Off the top of my head.

Now this is just sad. How can you justify criticising other's choice in entertainment when you watch My Little Pony? Is this sarcasm? Ironic?

~snippity snip~

First off, I don't (seriously) mock anyone for liking Family Guy. My very intelligent brother, as an example, enjoys the show.

Secondly, my point was highlighting the difference between judging a show because of its primary demographic (superficially), and judging a show by its content. Don't judge a book by its cover, you know?

 

[DEAD34345]

First off, I don't (seriously) mock anyone for liking Family Guy. My very intelligent brother, as an example, enjoys the show.

Secondly, my point was highlighting the difference between judging a show because of its primary demographic (superficially), and judging a show by its content. Don't judge a book by its cover, you know?

All-right fair enough, like I said it's hard to judge how people are saying things on the net.

I still disagree with your viewpoint though. Yes, judging a show by it's target audience rather than it's content is dumb (but harmless to anyone other than oneself), but mocking someone for watching a show based on it's target audience is perfectly legitimate. In fact, mocking people for any reason is fine in my books.

I've been mocked all my life for being ginger, and I have no problem with that (I join in half the time). In fact, most of the times I've been ridiculed about that kind of thing has been by my friends, and I laugh at the jokes too. I mock them for stupid reasons just as much as they do the same to me, of course, but since we can all laugh at ourselves none of us have any problem with this.

I'd say that mocking people for watching cartoons about ponies is not only perfectly fine, but is quite a good reason to mock someone, considering other things people will use. Like I said earlier, if watching My Little Pony cartoons is not grounds to mock someone, then I don't know what is.

NPR has nothing to apologise for, I would have laughed at the jokes myself if I had found them funny. They were nowhere near being truly offensive.

 

[I am Vectorgrader]

If you can't laugh at yourself, for watching a show about ponies, aimed at little girls, then what can you laugh at?

nail, meet hammer. well put.

Yeah, what IS with all the dudes watching My Little Pony? I'm a girl & I won't even watch that, but it's almost as popular with the geeks at TGWTG as Dr Who is.

I'll leave it to the hordes to shower you with the specifics, but it boils down to "It's actually pretty good" give it a try if you've got 25 minutes to spare one day and you're bored.
I'm a girl too, and I enjoy it. Gender doesn't really come into it despite what you'd expect, it's just designed to specifically appeal to young girls and their families.

Well thank you very much indeed. Thanks to your endorsement, I did just that and watched it. And it's FUCKING ADORABLE.

It is, I've come to realise, an adjunct of camp. And as one of them Gays, I find that irresistible.

Plus the reboots seem to have something of a sense of self-parody about them, which I find equally irresistible.

So yeah. Thanks for giving me one more guilty pleasure. Woo.

 

[Jimbo1212]

And come back to my same conclusion. Racism. Stereotypes only exist when we want them to exist. They have no grounding in reality until we actually make it a reality. Would blacks get worse education when they are not discriminated? no, the same thing civil rights groups have been doing for years. Your insistence that stereotypes exist because its truth only works in the 1940s mindset.

Um, I think you may not understand what racism is if you think stereotypes and racism are the same. Stereotypes are based on generalisations, not "existing when we want them to exist". I think you are confused with people using stereotypes and why they are formed in the first place. What do you mean by "make it a reality"???? That makes no sense and they are based on reality, as I said, go look at some statistics before passing your unsubstantiated opinion as fact. Blacks in the UK get the same education yet on average, perform worse then any other group so that destroys your argument.
This is why stereotypes are formed. If you see a reoccurring pattern then you associate it to that group.

 

[Cap'n Ninja]

If you can't laugh at yourself, for watching a show about ponies, aimed at little girls, then what can you laugh at?

nail, meet hammer. well put.

Yeah, what IS with all the dudes watching My Little Pony? I'm a girl & I won't even watch that, but it's almost as popular with the geeks at TGWTG as Dr Who is.

I'll leave it to the hordes to shower you with the specifics, but it boils down to "It's actually pretty good" give it a try if you've got 25 minutes to spare one day and you're bored.
I'm a girl too, and I enjoy it. Gender doesn't really come into it despite what you'd expect, it's just designed to specifically appeal to young girls and their families.

Well thank you very much indeed. Thanks to your endorsement, I did just that and watched it. And it's FUCKING ADORABLE.

It is, I've come to realise, an adjunct of camp. And as one of them Gays, I find that irresistible.

Plus the reboots seem to have something of a sense of self-parody about them, which I find equally irresistible.

So yeah. Thanks for giving me one more guilty pleasure. Woo.

You are most welcome. I was just explaining a little. I'm glad you enjoy the show though, it's always nice to know there are new people out there enjoying the show.