Not at all; the fire cleanses.chronobreak said:A little juvenile, don't you think?
Not at all; the fire cleanses.chronobreak said:A little juvenile, don't you think?
Socialism has inherent as well moral problems with it. Socialism tends to lead to lack of innovation, bolsters inefficiency, and the government always seems to fuck up anything it gets it's hands on. Not to mention to moral problems such as someone taking the money that you earned and giving it to someone else who didn't.Irishhoodlum said:Seriously, Socialist? Do you know what that even is? And then can you tell me what's wrong with it?
I disagree. There is an epidemic on these forums, where it is ok for someone to come in, make a inappropriate or hate-filled comment in a thread, and then vanish just as quickly. They make no attempt to add a damn thing to the discussion, and totally disregard that there may even be another side to it. For example, every thread about Glenn Beck or Limbaugh, some idiot will chime in with "I think we should kill them", or something to that effect. It's childish. Yes, we know this is a liberal forum, and that's fine, but for God's sake, can we at least make an attempt here to acknowledge both sides of the coin? I like Fox News, that doesn't make me a redneck idiot.Loop Stricken said:Not at all; the fire cleanses.
Shit like this goes totally unchecked 90 percent of the time around here. If you are a conservative American on these forums, you have to read through garbage like this all the time on here. If I didn't genuinely love this community, I wouldn't stay, and most people on here are really cool and understanding. But, you shouldn't be allowed to just make some asshat type comment that you have no intention of following through on, especially something potentially criminal in nature, without being called out on it, and that is what I was doing.T3h Camp3r T3rr0r1st said:Americans were killing Americans how can the world not win (!)
WRONG. That's communism. Communism is the equal class thing. That is NOT socialism.Joeshie said:Socialism has inherent as well moral problems with it. Socialism tends to lead to lack of innovation, bolsters inefficiency, and the government always seems to fuck up anything it gets it's hands on. Not to mention to moral problems such as someone taking the money that you earned and giving it to someone else who didn't.Irishhoodlum said:Seriously, Socialist? Do you know what that even is? And then can you tell me what's wrong with it?
I didn't even post that on this thread...chronobreak said:I disagree. There is an epidemic on these forums, where it is ok for someone to come in, make a inappropriate or hate-filled comment in a thread, and then vanish just as quickly. They make no attempt to add a damn thing to the discussion, and totally disregard that there may even be another side to it. For example, every thread about Glenn Beck or Limbaugh, some idiot will chime in with "I think we should kill them", or something to that effect. It's childish. Yes, we know this is a liberal forum, and that's fine, but for God's sake, can we at least make an attempt here to acknowledge both sides of the coin? I like Fox News, that doesn't make me a redneck idiot.Loop Stricken said:Not at all; the fire cleanses.
Take a comment like this for example:Shit like this goes totally unchecked 90 percent of the time around here. If you are a conservative American on these forums, you have to read through garbage like this all the time on here. If I didn't genuinely love this community, I wouldn't stay, and most people on here are really cool and understanding. But, you shouldn't be allowed to just make some asshat type comment that you have no intention of following through on, especially something potentially criminal in nature, without being called out on it, and that is what I was doing.T3h Camp3r T3rr0r1st said:Americans were killing Americans how can the world not win (!)
And, if I come into an Obama thread and leave a comment like "He's the worst President ever" and leave, yes, I would expect the same treatment. Sorry for the ranting.
Uhhh, whut?blackshark121 said:WRONG. That's communism. Communism is the equal class thing. That is NOT socialism.Joeshie said:Socialism has inherent as well moral problems with it. Socialism tends to lead to lack of innovation, bolsters inefficiency, and the government always seems to fuck up anything it gets it's hands on. Not to mention to moral problems such as someone taking the money that you earned and giving it to someone else who didn't.Irishhoodlum said:Seriously, Socialist? Do you know what that even is? And then can you tell me what's wrong with it?
Socialism is, simply put, the government controls certain means of production that the public sector can't. If insurance companies aren't paying money that people need, government steps in and offers a "public option." And, its still capitalism- if someone doesn't like one option because it is too expensive, their private option, they can switch to the public option, which offers reasonable prices.
Even five minutes on wikipedia can describe the difference between socialism and communism. Stop talking out of your ass, and learn what it is that you are saying.
That's what conservatives do. They talk tough and somewhat sensible when they are in power, but turn into raging assholes when knocked from their thrown.Nickolai77 said:I am right in thinking that when George Bush was in office, and in the face of heavy criticism towards the Iraq War, Fox News said that "We should respect the office of the presidency?"
See, that's the Limbaugh/Beck/O'Rielly explanation, which isn't necessarily correct. Socialism refers to various theories of economic organization advocating public or direct worker ownership and administration of the means of production and allocation of resources, and a society characterized by equal access to resources for all individuals with a method of compensation based on the amount of labor expended. (Wikipedia)Joeshie said:Uhhh, whut?blackshark121 said:WRONG. That's communism. Communism is the equal class thing. That is NOT socialism.Joeshie said:Socialism has inherent as well moral problems with it. Socialism tends to lead to lack of innovation, bolsters inefficiency, and the government always seems to fuck up anything it gets it's hands on. Not to mention to moral problems such as someone taking the money that you earned and giving it to someone else who didn't.Irishhoodlum said:Seriously, Socialist? Do you know what that even is? And then can you tell me what's wrong with it?
Socialism is, simply put, the government controls certain means of production that the public sector can't. If insurance companies aren't paying money that people need, government steps in and offers a "public option." And, its still capitalism- if someone doesn't like one option because it is too expensive, their private option, they can switch to the public option, which offers reasonable prices.
Even five minutes on wikipedia can describe the difference between socialism and communism. Stop talking out of your ass, and learn what it is that you are saying.
Socialism takes private property way from you (your money) and gives it to everyone else (public property). Communism distributes it slightly differently than socialism, but the distribution method is still there.
Also, my criticisms of socialism were also listed under the criticism of socialism section [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_socialism] on Wikipedia. Just thought you might like to know.
Obama lies and has done nothing at all since he has taken officeGrinningManiac said:http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/oct/13/fox-news-obama-white-house
Sorry if this should have gone in the News Room, but I thought that was for the gold-coloured names of the beat writers.
A war of sorts has "offically" broken out between Fox and the White House, more specifically: Beck and Obama.
Comments from any side of the political spectrum?
(I'm British, the Guardian is British)
And due to random comments that are not related to the topic, this is quickly becoming a flame war. And we're not even done the first page yet.duckfi8 said:Obama lies and has done nothing at all since he has taken officeGrinningManiac said:http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/oct/13/fox-news-obama-white-house
Sorry if this should have gone in the News Room, but I thought that was for the gold-coloured names of the beat writers.
A war of sorts has "offically" broken out between Fox and the White House, more specifically: Beck and Obama.
Comments from any side of the political spectrum?
(I'm British, the Guardian is British)
Right after we get rid of the PETA headquarters. They need to rot in the lowest pit of hell...damn them all.jobobob said:I say we just burn down fox headquarters.
Well we know what side of the Political spectrum you reside in. Not that I care, keep on doing what you do.duckfi8 said:Obama lies and has done nothing at all since he has taken office
Kojima did say that there was a feature in MGS: Peace Walker that's so awesome that you'll want to rush out and buy a PSPeatmorebabiesmmg00d said:i have to admit i thought the title was talking about a hypothetical situation where naked snake has snuck in the white house on a mission to kill obama. i just had a good idea for a game!