Warhammer 40k 6th edition on the horizon (along with the annual price rise)

[EMFCRACKSHOT]

Last week, the Games Workshop website stopped selling the current 40k rulebook. Yesterday all Games Workshop stores (At least in the UK) were told to remove all of the Assault on Black Reach starter sets from their shelves. This can only mean one thing, that a new rulebook is on the way.
After talking with friends, we decided that flyers would probably be the biggest change in the new book (GW did just launch a new range of flyers) and that troop transports would be effectively nerfed (we also decided that this was a GW sales strategy to try and get people to buy their expensive new flyers).
This comes just after the annual price increase which this year seems more ludicrous than ever before. Some of the price increases are just insane (some are as high as 33%) especially for the space marine stuff. The Space Marine Battleforce will be going up to £80 ($110 for our cousins accross the pond) and the Cadian Battleforce will be going up to £75 (The price has been way too high ever since they replaced the Leman Russ with a Sentinel).
The average prie of a codex will be about £25 after the price increase hits which is just obsceneif you ask me.
I'll probably end up buying the new rulebook, but with the prices as they are now i just can't afford to buy anything from there. They essentially priced me out of my hobby. Its also going to make the hobby even harder to get into for newcomers. seems to me that they just shot themselves in the foot a little bit.

So, what are you fine people hoping to see in the new rulebook and what do you think of the extortionate price increase?

 

[Hero in a half shell]

I've never understood how these things are so expensive, aren't they pretty much exactly the same as airfix models, which can sell at around £20-30 for the larger scaled models: http://www.themodeller.com/airfix?sortorder=1&page=2
I'd like to compare it to the Gears Workshop site prices, but apparently just to browse it you have to allow 3rd party companies to install cookies on your computer, so screw that.
On Amazon the individual tanks seem to go for around £20-30 [http://www.amazon.co.uk/Space-Marine-Razorback-Tank-Warhammer/dp/B000WE82BI/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1338339779&sr=8-2], which actually lines up pretty well with Airfix prices:

Also £25 for a book! £25? What do they think it is, a University textbook?

 

[Xan Krieger]

So glad this doesn't effect me since I play the version show in Dawn of War: Dark Crusade. I do have a space marine squad that specializes in plasma weapons and eventually I'm gonna get more.

With the new edition please please please tell me Matt Ward doesn't ruin anything else?

 

[Nouw]

As long as Matt Ward is not involved in any way I can deal with it.

Amen. Only good things can happen if he leaves.

 

[CAPTCHA]

Yeah it kind of sucks how every time they release a new set of rules they invalidate the core builds and OP something wlse. Carnifexs, IG Stormtroopers... transports now is it?

Any word on the true line of sight rule? I hate that bullshit. It just causes arguments.

 

[Soviet Heavy]

I honestly cannot stand how Games Workshop paces their releases. Spess Mahreens automatically get new shit before anything else, and some codexes don't get updated until maybe a six months before a new edition comes out. So by the time your Dark Eldar can play with 5th Edition rules, you're already wasting time, since 6th Edition is just around the corner.

Here's a thought: When you are writing the new edition, make sure you have new edition codexes ready to go along with it, so people aren't kept waiting.

 

[MrPeanut]

So...this time the ones to reap the new rules to the fullest will be chaos? I mean, the new Traitor Legions codex is coming right after the 6th ed.

Also, at the rate they keep pushing their atrocious prices, the forgeworld models will soon be cheaper, I mean, I haven't bought anything but the new books from GW in a year now. Everything else is just conversions.

 

[dalek sec]

As long as Matt Ward is not involved in any way I can deal with it.

Amen. Only good things can happen if he leaves.

Wait, there's talk of him leaving?

OT: Well since I don't play the game for a ton of reasons it doesn't really bug me, I just have to wait for all the new stories to come out.

Now I must bide my time until the next bunch of novels come out....

 

[Thaluikhain]

I've never understood how these things are so expensive, aren't they pretty much exactly the same as airfix models, which can sell at around £20-30 for the larger scaled models: http://www.themodeller.com/airfix?sortorder=1&page=2

Well, not exactly. More to the point Games Workshop sells Games Workshop models, they can charge whatever they want.

I honestly cannot stand how Games Workshop paces their releases. Spess Mahreens automatically get new shit before anything else, and some codexes don't get updated until maybe a six months before a new edition comes out. So by the time your Dark Eldar can play with 5th Edition rules, you're already wasting time, since 6th Edition is just around the corner.

Here's a thought: When you are writing the new edition, make sure you have new edition codexes ready to go along with it, so people aren't kept waiting.

People play (and pay for) Marines, other Marines, other other Marines, and 3-4 other types of Marines. If everyone stopped buying Dark Eldar, would anyone really notice?

Of course, because of that, everyone knows DE are going to be fucked over, so there's no point buying them.

...

But I agree, they still pretend to be something other than a business sometimes, but they don't try that hard.

 

[Ed130 The Vanguard]

As long as Matt Ward is not involved in any way I can deal with it.

Amen. Only good things can happen if he leaves.

We can only hope he does. Or at least stay away from the fluff.

 

[Nouw]

As long as Matt Ward is not involved in any way I can deal with it.

Amen. Only good things can happen if he leaves.

Wait, there's talk of him leaving?

There was a rumour on /tg/ a while ago but that's about it. Note the if in my post .

 

[DirtyJunkieScum]

Well I bought 5th ed last year and a couple of codexes but TBH I haven't been particularly impressed with the new game. A friend of mine told me that apparently the cover rules are going to be going back to be similar to what they were in Rogue Trader which I thought was good, until I thought "Hang on, why don't I just nick the new rules I do like to replace the crap one (following fire...seriously...ugh) in RT and just play that instead?" Problem solved for me. I mainly play 2nd ed epic and buy the stuff I couldn't afford when I was a kid on ebay anyway.

 

[Trivun]

As long as they don't change the Tau Empire Codex, at least not too much. I decided to get into it again recently and bought the Tau massive box, and still have my old Tau models from before, and I don't want to put them all together (which I need to do in the next few weeks since I'll be taking 500 points worth to Escapism UK with me) only to find I can't use them for official play or tournament play because there's, say, one tiny bit of wargear on my Shas'La that's legal under current rules and suddenly illegal under new rules.

Aside from that, I'm intrigued to see what happens. I got into it with Space Marines back in the 4th edition, and switched to Tau Empire shortly before the 5th edition was released, but I've not properly played in a very long time (not since before uni a few years ago, in fact ). I look forward to seeing what Games Workshop come up with

(Actually, what is the likelihood that the Tau codex will make changes that make currently legal army builds illegal for tournament play? I ask since I've not really been into it for a while, nor specifically when new editions have been released...)

 

[Burning Bard]

Ward is heavily involved in the rules sections, which might not be too bad he's actually gotten better at handling rules.

 

[Ultrajoe]

My corrupted body is ready for chaos in a very, very buyable starter pack along with a Dark Angels buddy.

 

[Doclector]

I've been tempted multiple times to start the hobby, as I love the lore and universe, but despite all the other reasons I end up not doing it, not having the time to invest in painting the models and playing what may be a lengthy game, hating the smell of paint, the fear that I'd never get my head around the rules, and that my nerd rating is far past the tolerance levels of most girls already, the cheif concern I always have, that always stops me getting into it, is the price. Having to pay like 50+ quid just to start, and then probably wanting to move on to expansion packs that may be verging on a hundred quid, is a mind boggling amount of money for me to have to spend, especially as I'm unemployed, and living in recession britain, probably will be for quite some time.

So yeah, from the point of view of an outsider who considers playing, raising the prices higher is a terrible idea.

 

[Burning Bard]

I've been tempted multiple times to start the hobby, as I love the lore and universe, but despite all the other reasons I end up not doing it, not having the time to invest in painting the models and playing what may be a lengthy game, hating the smell of paint, the fear that I'd never get my head around the rules, and that my nerd rating is far past the tolerance levels of most girls already, the cheif concern I always have, that always stops me getting into it, is the price. Having to pay like 50+ quid just to start, and then probably wanting to move on to expansion packs that may be verging on a hundred quid, is a mind boggling amount of money for me to have to spend, especially as I'm unemployed, and living in recession britain, probably will be for quite some time.

So yeah, from the point of view of an outsider who considers playing, raising the prices higher is a terrible idea.

This is all the reasons I just do the role plying stuff like Dark Heresy now.

Same universe; lower long-term cost.

Captcha: "pleased as punch" Why yes I am.

 

[Vuliev]

Also £25 for a book! £25? What do they think it is, a University textbook?

Until you're forced to pay upwards of or sometimes more than $110 (£71-ish) for university textbooks, don't complain. D:


OT: See, I always wanted to get into the actual tabletop WH40k after liking Dawn of War, but it's so assbajeezusly expensive. Their loss, I guess.