you sir..are fucking stupid and have no idea of WH40K. Grim Dark was their idea. ITS THERE FUCKING LINE! Before you say "they should be fired" go do your research on the game/lore.SakSak said:The WH40k tagline may have it, but the overall use to describe pretty much anything ranging from punk music to Twilight, means it has serious negative connotations to overcome, from a marketing perspective.Cpt Corallis said:Those words, probably more than anything else short of Space Marine, Are Warhammer 40K.SakSak said:A game that advertises itself with the words 'grim dark'...no. Just no. Whoever thought that was a good idea, ought to be fired.
Several alternatives come to mind "desolate and hopeless", "war-torn and bloodied", "After millenia of unending war", "In the macabre, bleak future of mankind"
or something else. Those I came up with in just a few minutes. A marketing department should in a week come up with something far, far better.
That's the problem, from a non-fan-gushy point of view, it looks like a game that MIGHT WORK and not give enough for people to complain about. I always wanted to play a TPS Warhammer game, and anyone who says Cliffy B. didn't take a few pointers too many from it need to get their eyes fixed.Demon ID said:Yes, embrace the dark side. Let your hate become a weapon. By that I mean your post was very angryAceAngel said:Stupid, stupid, stupid Marines game...no PC version...GREAT! Thank you, oh don't bother, with a port, it's not like we need it or anything.
DM is an MMO...sigh...c'mon people, lets all play a generic WoW GUI'ified game.
FOR BLOODY PETE'S SAKE! I hope every single person who plays those games ends up burning in hell, even if they did save kittens from an inferno.
I think Space Marines might be good, but I can't help but feel that it will end up being bland and boring, just a ork shooting gallery rather than a challenging game with intelligent AI. If i'm proved wrong this might just be a game to look out for.
Or, have the IG players play as a Guardsman squad. That way, for every Space Marine and Eldar Farseer, there'd be 3-5 Guardsmen. The player himself could be a Commisar, Psyker, Sargeant, etc. Basically, a pet class!SakSak said:I wonder how they manage to balance out the casualty ratio of Imperial Guard, in their Paper armor and Imperial Flashlights, in comparison to ceramite power-armor protected, genetically engineered supersoldiers. Because either they need to stay in-genre and accept that any imperial guard player will die 20-25x that of any other player and compensate for it, or somehow come up with a reason why the IG player suddenly, in contrast with the genre, dies at the same ratio as the super-soldier despite the humongous inherent power difference.
You sir, have proven to have no reading comprehension, and likely a troll.Outcast107 said:you sir..are fucking stupid and have no idea of WH40K. Grim Dark was their idea. ITS THERE FUCKING LINE! Before you say "they should be fired" go do your research on the game/lore.SakSak said:The WH40k tagline may have it, but the overall use to describe pretty much anything ranging from punk music to Twilight, means it has serious negative connotations to overcome, from a marketing perspective.Cpt Corallis said:Those words, probably more than anything else short of Space Marine, Are Warhammer 40K.SakSak said:A game that advertises itself with the words 'grim dark'...no. Just no. Whoever thought that was a good idea, ought to be fired.
Several alternatives come to mind "desolate and hopeless", "war-torn and bloodied", "After millenia of unending war", "In the macabre, bleak future of mankind"
or something else. Those I came up with in just a few minutes. A marketing department should in a week come up with something far, far better.
That might work.Jandau said:Or, have the IG players play as a Guardsman squad. That way, for every Space Marine and Eldar Farseer, there'd be 3-5 Guardsmen. The player himself could be a Commisar, Psyker, Sargeant, etc. Basically, a pet class!SakSak said:I wonder how they manage to balance out the casualty ratio of Imperial Guard, in their Paper armor and Imperial Flashlights, in comparison to ceramite power-armor protected, genetically engineered supersoldiers. Because either they need to stay in-genre and accept that any imperial guard player will die 20-25x that of any other player and compensate for it, or somehow come up with a reason why the IG player suddenly, in contrast with the genre, dies at the same ratio as the super-soldier despite the humongous inherent power difference.![]()
I also would like Space Marine on the PC even if it is based around Ultrasmurfs.AceAngel said:That's the problem, from a non-fan-gushy point of view, it looks like a game that MIGHT WORK and not give enough for people to complain about. I always wanted to play a TPS Warhammer game, and anyone who says Cliffy B. didn't take a few pointers too many from it need to get their eyes fixed.
At the same time, it's Console only, but why? A couple of thousands of sale from the RTS fans on PC would be a nice money bag, I'm sure.
To irradiate your testicles (if you're of the testicled gender)Grr, stupid consoles...whats the point of a powerful laptop?
Of course I have testicles you silly man, there are no girls on the internet outside of Facebook!RhomCo said:I also would like Space Marine on the PC even if it is based around Ultrasmurfs.AceAngel said:That's the problem, from a non-fan-gushy point of view, it looks like a game that MIGHT WORK and not give enough for people to complain about. I always wanted to play a TPS Warhammer game, and anyone who says Cliffy B. didn't take a few pointers too many from it need to get their eyes fixed.
At the same time, it's Console only, but why? A couple of thousands of sale from the RTS fans on PC would be a nice money bag, I'm sure.
I'm not overly concerned, though, because it looks like it's running a retooled version of the DoW2 engine. Might see a PC release one day.
Maybe GW and the game's publisher (still THQ, yeah?) decided there was a need for a console WH40k game, knew an RTS wouldn't cut it and threw money at relic to get it done. Now, either the decision was made to keep Space Marine as far away from the DoW fanbase as possible, seeing as many of them were grumpy enough over DoW2 changes from DoW1... or they just decided to pull the usual industry dick move and piss in the faces of PC gamers for shit and giggles.
To irradiate your testicles (if you're of the testicled gender)Grr, stupid consoles...whats the point of a powerful laptop?
Hell, I want to be a ranger. I'd even settle for a follower of the Banshee aspect.blackshark121 said:Space Marine looks fun and all, but where are the fucking Eldar in Dark Millennium? I want to be a jousting elf on a jetbike.Cpt Corallis said:Who wants to see Gameplay from Space Marine and the New MMo Dark millenium? I DO!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zt5e2OX9FUk&playnext_from=SL Dark Millenium
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnfniAbzYX8&feature=channel Space Marine
So what do we think?
Dark millenium is looking very nice, i must say, very GRIMDARK! and we apparently have vehicles in it as well.
Even were I able to play as TEN guardsmen, I don't think I'd jump at the chance. Maybe a Karskin Sergeant (or stormtroopers for a non-Cadian patterned army) or something. Really, I can't see it working well just because the bulk of an IG army is expendible cannon fodder.thejrade said:Agreed, having a squad as your character would allow the various factions to be represented. Who'd be a Guardsman if you can be a Spess Marine, but if you can be 10 Guardsmen on the other hand... Not to mention the fact that it would be a clear way to differentiate it from the bazillion other MMOs out there.
Keep in mind, the idea of an MMO is to become stronger and stronger; starting weak as a kitten until you can topple demi-gods. I wouldn't enjoy skipping ahead straight to near-godhood, I want to work my way up. Before an Ork is a Nob, he's a Boy. Before an Ork's a Boss, he's a Nob. Before an Ork's a Warlord, he's a Boss.Eclectic Dreck said:*exterminatus*