Warhammer 40k vs starwars... is there any possible way for SW to win?

[Bob_Bobbington]

As I think someone mentioned before, SW also has a version of the Tyranids: The Yuzhan Vong. They share many aspects of Tyranids and have a caste system like the Tau. They were also deeply religious and eccentric with their own Gods. They also, like the Tyranids, almost wiped out the Old Republic. But unlike the Tyranids they were able to make alliances.

They're nothing alike. The Yuzhan Vong are a sentient empire, which was apparently forced into an armistice. The Tyranids are an Implacable and unstoppable swarm. The only sentient parts are the Hive Minds of each induvidual fleet. The Vong creatures bear more resemblance to the Imperium than they do the Tyranids, who are "unstoppable swarm bug aliens".

I was talking more about how they use biological weapons and have living ships.

 

[Archaeology Hat]

As I think someone mentioned before, SW also has a version of the Tyranids: The Yuzhan Vong. They share many aspects of Tyranids and have a caste system like the Tau. They were also deeply religious and eccentric with their own Gods. They also, like the Tyranids, almost wiped out the Old Republic. But unlike the Tyranids they were able to make alliances.

They're nothing alike. The Yuzhan Vong are a sentient empire, which was apparently forced into an armistice. The Tyranids are an Implacable and unstoppable swarm. The only sentient parts are the Hive Minds of each induvidual fleet. The Vong creatures bear more resemblance to the Imperium than they do the Tyranids, who are "unstoppable swarm bug aliens".

I was talking more about how they use biological weapons and have living ships.

Thats not the scary thing about the Tyranids really, the scary bit is the eating and absorbing... everything.

Edit: Of course I don't take this particularly seriously, its just a bit of fun. My essential point is everything in 40k is so capabale of wiping out any other universe's empire... if left to its own devices, its only the fact that everything else in its universe is just as powerful that maintains the status quo.

 

[Bob_Bobbington]

As I think someone mentioned before, SW also has a version of the Tyranids: The Yuzhan Vong. They share many aspects of Tyranids and have a caste system like the Tau. They were also deeply religious and eccentric with their own Gods. They also, like the Tyranids, almost wiped out the Old Republic. But unlike the Tyranids they were able to make alliances.

They're nothing alike. The Yuzhan Vong are a sentient empire, which was apparently forced into an armistice. The Tyranids are an Implacable and unstoppable swarm. The only sentient parts are the Hive Minds of each induvidual fleet. The Vong creatures bear more resemblance to the Imperium than they do the Tyranids, who are "unstoppable swarm bug aliens".

I was talking more about how they use biological weapons and have living ships.

Thats not the scary thing about the Tyranids really, the scary bit is the eating and absorbing... everything.

Ok, they are more like Chaos but with bio weapons.

 

[Gitsnik]

Why is it always that 40k fanboys start my universe vs your universe topics and continue ranting that it's " better" then everything else even if it isn't related at all because it would win in a military conflict?

Sorry but why is it people have to attack others and what they like? I've seen many topics around the forums like this and they have been started by the SW fans and Trek fans. It just seems to depend on the population of a forum.

With that said would you like to actualy add anything contructive to the arguement here?

No, the appropriate response is "Because we have more disposable income than you" (anyone not getting the joke has never been on rpg.net!) If you want to complain about not adding something to an argument, try actually adding something to an argument.

For clarification, are we accepting all the extra books by various authors as canon? We've accepted the SunCrusher which wasn't Lucas - if so can we start to abuse some of the books by Abnett and such which do not follow (sometimes) the basis of the Rick Priestly and Co (i.e. official) canon? The same applies to the Black Library?

 

[Archaeology Hat]

Why is it always that 40k fanboys start my universe vs your universe topics and continue ranting that it's " better" then everything else even if it isn't related at all because it would win in a military conflict?

Sorry but why is it people have to attack others and what they like? I've seen many topics around the forums like this and they have been started by the SW fans and Trek fans. It just seems to depend on the population of a forum.

With that said would you like to actualy add anything contructive to the arguement here?

No, the appropriate response is "Because we have more disposable income than you" (anyone not getting the joke has never been on rpg.net!) If you want to complain about not adding something to an argument, try actually adding something to an argument.

For clarification, are we accepting all the extra books by various authors as canon? We've accepted the SunCrusher which wasn't Lucas - if so can we start to abuse some of the books by Abnett and such which do not follow (sometimes) the basis of the Rick Priestly and Co (i.e. official) canon? The same applies to the Black Library?

Indeed, everything in Star Wars is defeated by CAIPHAS CAIN! HERO OF THE IMPERIUM!

 

[DND Judgement]

what about the death star...? instant death for a planet nothing in 40K can stop that....

 

[Archaeology Hat]

what about the death star...? instant death for a planet nothing in 40K can stop that....

Fleet action... and 40k and do one of the Exterminatus equivaltents right back at them.

 

[Bob_Bobbington]

SW also has HK-47, possibly the best droid assassin and companion ever.

 

[Archaeology Hat]

SW also has HK-47, possibly the best droid assassin and companion ever.

All hail Bioware!

 

[Bob_Bobbington]

SW also has HK-47, possibly the best droid assassin and companion ever.

All hail Bioware!

Statement: That's right meatbags, hail.

 

[Lord RPGs]

Well, the only idea I could come up with is that if, say, the Death Star's were to both attack Terra at once, destroying that, crushing all morale of ... Every single imperial simultaneously, (Including the Space Marines) unleashing a horde of Daemons upon the galaxy, and then the Empire uses that moment to claim some kind of victory by making the Imperial Guard surrender.

Barring that highly implausible plan, I really can't think of any way for Star Wars to win.

 

[Archaeology Hat]

Why is it always that 40k fanboys start my universe vs your universe topics and continue ranting that it's " better" then everything else even if it isn't related at all because it would win in a military conflict?

Sorry but why is it people have to attack others and what they like? I've seen many topics around the forums like this and they have been started by the SW fans and Trek fans. It just seems to depend on the population of a forum.

With that said would you like to actualy add anything contructive to the arguement here?

No, the appropriate response is "Because we have more disposable income than you" (anyone not getting the joke has never been on rpg.net!) If you want to complain about not adding something to an argument, try actually adding something to an argument.

For clarification, are we accepting all the extra books by various authors as canon? We've accepted the SunCrusher which wasn't Lucas - if so can we start to abuse some of the books by Abnett and such which do not follow (sometimes) the basis of the Rick Priestly and Co (i.e. official) canon? The same applies to the Black Library?

Thats a hard question really. I mean a lot of the books for SW are considered cannon. Also comics and I believe some of the video games.
But as it goes for either "universe" the powers and abilities seem to vary wildly.

Its very much the same 40k side. In Caiphas Cain, Lasguns are a horrific weapon that is easily fatal for a human target if it hits you in a vital area, similarly in in Gaunts Ghosts. In Angels of Darkness a 5 man squad of Space Marines neutralises a fleet sized space-craft+crew.
In the 40k Minitures game a space marine is only "average" in power. In the "Inquisitor" minitures game a Space Marine is Total Party Kill material (and players "parties" are hardly made of "average" induviduals) so powerful that my friends and I banned ourselves from using Marines as anything other than NPCs.

 

[Ultramarine45]

Star Wars is shit for children.In the name of the Emperor,W40k is far more better.

 

[Bob_Bobbington]

Star Wars is shit for children.In the name of the Emperor,W40k is far more better.

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Edit: I suppose I should say something. This doesn't really add to the discussion. Please have something to argue and not just spurt stuff like this.

 

[Archaeology Hat]

Well maybe for future reference some silly little rules could be laid down. Like in SW's case do you jsut use the movies or everything? Warhammer is it just the tabletop game or everything else?
Then maybe with the whole power differences. Maybe just put everything at the max power they have been shown at.

The problem with 40k is that Inquisitor shows weapons especially as being far more powerful than in the battle game. Inquisitor is official canon, its an (albeit specialist) game written by Priestly and co.

I think to an extent with 40k there IS variation. Imperial guard to have "Imperial Stormtrooper school of Marksmanship" regiments... but they also have well trained professionals. Also... games Workshop published "Movie Marines", what space maries in 40k would be like if they were in the canon background. They dumbed them down in the minitures game so that Marine armies don't consist of "4 Marines and a sergeant".

 

[Simalacrum]

in my opinion? this should have a poll

 

[Archaeology Hat]

Nah a Poll would make it "Who prefers 40k and who prefers SW"