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while this about the movie i may have to also get my geek on

i love necrons i do how ever as far as nids vs crons go i would have to go with nids while the crons do have sweet as hell fire power and unlike other races would not be affected but the nids changing the worlds air they are simply to slow and not enough of them while they could tear apart the little nids and maybe even some of the med nids the huge nid they cant really touch i mean sure if they throw enough plasma on it they will die but once again it comes down to numbers u may kill 1 but the other 10 are gonna get ya
 

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snowbilby said:
I actually love the tyranids and there the race I play but I just think that as a race, the Necrons are the stongest. I mean we still don't what their capable. Only 3 gods have been confirmed to be awake, one of them the embodiment of death, another what the tech-priest believe is the omnissah. That just freaks me. And the report that a large tomb-spyder like machine, described as a six legged creature known as a tomb stalker appeared and wiped out a numerous titans before completely disappearing. Now just think if they had hundred of thousands of these asleep dormant beneath hundreds of planets. That scares the crap out of me.
Only 2 C'tan are awake currently, Nightbringer and Deceiver. The tech priests as an organisation do not believe that the Void Dragon is the Machine God. Also the Void Dragon in not on Mars, the book Mechanicum makes this clear, the Emperor did defeat and imprison a beastie called the dragon on Mars at the start of the Great Crusade, but it was not a C'tan.

The tomb stalker is not a titan killer, the model is out in 2 weeks, it's kinda like a necron carnifex.
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/New_Stuff/NECRON-TOMB-STALKER.html
 

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It's a film that breaks lore (IE ment for newcommers) yet will only be seen by the fans (Due to graphical stuckness from the 90ies).

So...I hear Uncharted would make a better movie just Frapsed from the game.
 

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snowbilby said:
Megalodon said:
snowbilby said:
I actually love the tyranids and there the race I play but I just think that as a race, the Necrons are the stongest. I mean we still don't what their capable. Only 3 gods have been confirmed to be awake, one of them the embodiment of death, another what the tech-priest believe is the omnissah. That just freaks me. And the report that a large tomb-spyder like machine, described as a six legged creature known as a tomb stalker appeared and wiped out a numerous titans before completely disappearing. Now just think if they had hundred of thousands of these asleep dormant beneath hundreds of planets. That scares the crap out of me.
Only 2 C'tan are awake currently, Nightbringer and Deceiver. The tech priests as an organisation do not believe that the Void Dragon is the Machine God. Also the Void Dragon in not on Mars, the book Mechanicum makes this clear, the Emperor did defeat and imprison a beastie called the dragon on Mars at the start of the Great Crusade, but it was not a C'tan.

The tomb stalker is not a titan killer, the model is out in 2 weeks, it's kinda like a necron carnifex.
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/New_Stuff/NECRON-TOMB-STALKER.html
Sorry, the original incarnation of it was depicted as a titan killer, I didn't realise they had brought out a model :p

You're right about the dragon of mars but the void dragons is on mars. It's not actually a dragon, but after the whole Necrons peircing through the imperiums "impreggnable defenses" around Terra and landing on mars, it was confirmed that the void dragon was buried in a room thousands of meters down.
Where did you here this? Because the Shround light cruiser that touched down on Mars landed in the Noctis Labyrinth (I think that's what its called), which is where the dragon of mars was locked up.
 

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Ultrajoe said:
I will buy this in the hope that enough people will buy it for a proper film studio to take over things. The film is probably a pile of ass.
Kinda the same for me, although my expectations aren't as... bleak. I'm supremely grateful they finally actually made a 40k movie, so I'll try not to be too picky about protagonists and other stuff.
Besides - and this goes out to all those nitwits who keep complaining about it being a smurfs movie - , this is a movie, and even if it's mostly made for the fanbase a movie is always, always, always meant to expand the audience of any given franchise, and in order to do so you need to keep it basic; hence the use of the most vanilla factions Space Marines and Chaos Marines have to offer.

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Also the Void Dragon in not on Mars, the book Mechanicum makes this clear, the Emperor did defeat and imprison a beastie called the dragon on Mars at the start of the Great Crusade, but it was not a C'tan.
... The hell?! That book made it abundantly clear it very much is the Void Dragon that lies imprisoned on Mars.
 

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Sonicron said:
Megalodon said:
Also the Void Dragon in not on Mars, the book Mechanicum makes this clear, the Emperor did defeat and imprison a beastie called the dragon on Mars at the start of the Great Crusade, but it was not a C'tan.
... The hell?! That book made it abundantly clear it very much is the Void Dragon that lies imprisoned on Mars.
It really didn't, nothing in the descriptions of the dragon matched what is currently written about the C'tan. Also, if it was the Void Dragon then it had to have been awake when the Emperor went to Mars, but until very recently, only the Deciever was active, or had been since the Necrons and C'tan went into stasis. So if it was supposed to be the Void Dragon on Mars, then GW have epically contradicted themselves yet again (I wish they would stop doing that).
 

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Megalodon said:
Only 2 C'tan are awake currently, Nightbringer and Deceiver. The tech priests as an organisation do not believe that the Void Dragon is the Machine God. Also the Void Dragon in not on Mars, the book Mechanicum makes this clear, the Emperor did defeat and imprison a beastie called the dragon on Mars at the start of the Great Crusade, but it was not a C'tan.
I'd say that'd be rather...coincidental, the Emperor defeating a metallic beastie that eats mortals, has the capability to do some really weird shit to the material world and is referred to as Dragon..which has nothing to do with the other metallic beastie that eats mortals, has the capability to do some really weird shit to the material world and is referred to as Dragon.

Whether or not the Void Dragon is awake currently is not entirely clear though..after all, the book was stolen, and 10.000 years later it was 'too late'..so it might actually be up and about in current-time 40k.
 

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Mathak said:
Megalodon said:
Only 2 C'tan are awake currently, Nightbringer and Deceiver. The tech priests as an organisation do not believe that the Void Dragon is the Machine God. Also the Void Dragon in not on Mars, the book Mechanicum makes this clear, the Emperor did defeat and imprison a beastie called the dragon on Mars at the start of the Great Crusade, but it was not a C'tan.
I'd say that'd be rather...coincidental, the Emperor defeating a metallic beastie that eats mortals, has the capability to do some really weird shit to the material world and is referred to as Dragon..which has nothing to do with the other metallic beastie that eats mortals, has the capability to do some really weird shit to the material world and is referred to as Dragon.

Whether or not the Void Dragon is awake currently is not entirely clear though..after all, the book was stolen, and 10.000 years later it was 'too late'..so it might actually be up and about in current-time 40k.
So what about the metallic dragon beastie that Ferrus Manus killed on Medusa. Was that a C'tan too?
The Dragon is probably still imprisoned, just, as you would hope that the Mechanicus would notice if some kind of super destructive entity woke up on their most sacred planet and assumedly started wrecking shit.
 

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Wondering here, Ive read alot of the Lexicanum, and played the pc games - story fascinates me...

But have the tyranids really ever squared off against chaos? Or would Chaos have a considerable handicap due to the tyranid "shadow"?

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Void_Dragon

Its heavily implies the Void Dragon is sleeping on Mars.
 

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I wish they got the same people to do the movie that made the intro to Dawn of War 1.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFkFo5SBx-g
Best intro Ever. =)
 

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Lord Legion said:
Wondering here, Ive read alot of the Lexicanum, and played the pc games - story fascinates me...

But have the tyranids really ever squared off against chaos? Or would Chaos have a considerable handicap due to the tyranid "shadow"?
Bits and pieces, mostly in the Nid codex, so they lost. The current line of "OMG Nid DOOOOOOM" basically pisses me off though. You have to be Maugen Ra to beat the nids now. But the Shadow of the Warp wouldn't screw Chaos over any more than anyone else, they could still use psychic powers and summon deamons. All the shadow really does is block Astropathic communication.
 

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Megalodon said:
Lord Legion said:
Wondering here, Ive read alot of the Lexicanum, and played the pc games - story fascinates me...

But have the tyranids really ever squared off against chaos? Or would Chaos have a considerable handicap due to the tyranid "shadow"?
Bits and pieces, mostly in the Nid codex, so they lost. The current line of "OMG Nid DOOOOOOM" basically pisses me off though. You have to be Maugen Ra to beat the nids now. But the Shadow of the Warp wouldn't screw Chaos over any more than anyone else, they could still use psychic powers and summon deamons. All the shadow really does is block Astropathic communication.
I see, I wondered how they would fare against a Greater Demon...but yeah, I agree the nids are becoming a bit of a tired cliche. Its almost like GX is trying to set the stage for the imperium to team up with the xenos...which would really fly in the face of things.
 

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Lord Legion said:
Megalodon said:
Lord Legion said:
Wondering here, Ive read alot of the Lexicanum, and played the pc games - story fascinates me...

But have the tyranids really ever squared off against chaos? Or would Chaos have a considerable handicap due to the tyranid "shadow"?
Bits and pieces, mostly in the Nid codex, so they lost. The current line of "OMG Nid DOOOOOOM" basically pisses me off though. You have to be Maugen Ra to beat the nids now. But the Shadow of the Warp wouldn't screw Chaos over any more than anyone else, they could still use psychic powers and summon deamons. All the shadow really does is block Astropathic communication.
I see, I wondered how they would fare against a Greater Demon...but yeah, I agree the nids are becoming a bit of a tired cliche. Its almost like GX is trying to set the stage for the imperium to team up with the xenos...which would really fly in the face of things.
They're more trying to overplay the doom, apocalypse and GRIMDARK recently. It used to be that the Imperium was pretty much in a fixed limbo, they may have lost 15 worlds last week, but 14 were retaken/colonised and the week before 18 were regained and 17 lost. But now they are portrayed as losing all the time, the best they can hope for a pyrrhic victories that only dealy their inevitable fall. This just plains sucks as a direction to take the background imo.
 

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Megalodon said:
Mathak said:
Megalodon said:
Only 2 C'tan are awake currently, Nightbringer and Deceiver. The tech priests as an organisation do not believe that the Void Dragon is the Machine God. Also the Void Dragon in not on Mars, the book Mechanicum makes this clear, the Emperor did defeat and imprison a beastie called the dragon on Mars at the start of the Great Crusade, but it was not a C'tan.
I'd say that'd be rather...coincidental, the Emperor defeating a metallic beastie that eats mortals, has the capability to do some really weird shit to the material world and is referred to as Dragon..which has nothing to do with the other metallic beastie that eats mortals, has the capability to do some really weird shit to the material world and is referred to as Dragon.

Whether or not the Void Dragon is awake currently is not entirely clear though..after all, the book was stolen, and 10.000 years later it was 'too late'..so it might actually be up and about in current-time 40k.
So what about the metallic dragon beastie that Ferrus Manus killed on Medusa. Was that a C'tan too?
The Dragon is probably still imprisoned, just, as you would hope that the Mechanicus would notice if some kind of super destructive entity woke up on their most sacred planet and assumedly started wrecking shit.
... No, that was Asirnoth, the Great Sylver Wyrm - a lifeform native to Medusa. Seeing how that beastie is actually described as a wyrm, meaning some variation of serpent with a distinct corporeal form, I can't see how the comparison to the C'tan holds up.

However, while (for reasons already mentioned by Mathak) I do believe that the Dragon of Mars is, in fact, the Void Dragon, I agree with you on its current state. If the Void Dragon were to awaken it would cause a ruckus of biblical proportions, one that would surely be noticed by the inhabitants of the red planet.
 

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Sonicron said:
Megalodon said:
So what about the metallic dragon beastie that Ferrus Manus killed on Medusa. Was that a C'tan too?
The Dragon is probably still imprisoned, just, as you would hope that the Mechanicus would notice if some kind of super destructive entity woke up on their most sacred planet and assumedly started wrecking shit.
... No, that was Asirnoth, the Great Sylver Wyrm - a lifeform native to Medusa. Seeing how that beastie is actually described as a wyrm, meaning some variation of serpent with a distinct corporeal form, I can't see how the comparison to the C'tan holds up.
The point was that Ferrus killed a metal skinned Dragon monster (wyrm being an old term for dragon). This was clearly not a C'tan, so it is entirely possible that the dragon on Mars was not a C'tan but some other kind of nasty monster, it's not uncommon for humans to name things dragon, given their place as pretty much the best/scariest mythological beast. Also, if the Dragon isn't C'tan, that leaves the 40K universe with more unknowns, and therefore more interesting than "here's another thing the C'tan did, be afraid".