Bioshock MMO sounds awesome. Have all servers launch on New Years Eve, what-ever-the-hell-year-it-was-everything-shot-straight-to-hell, and players observe the collapse of rapture first hand, fighting other players for ADAM, food, and ammunition in the chaos surrounding the immediate anarchy for the first half of each server time. Your level of addiction to ADAM determines whether you play as a chronic Splicers or mild addict. Then it plays as a normal MMO until a set amount of time (year? two or three?). Then the whole thing reverts, with the top players at the end of the rotation starting as aristocrats or powerful soldiers at the beginning of the next rotation. Thats how I would do it anyway. Would undoubtedly not work, but it was fun to type out. So there, naysayers. Just lampshaded that shit.HellsingerAngel said:
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I've played the game, and it was basically a PC RTS put to console controls, so it sucked hard. At Least Brutal Legend made an innovative RTS system that works for consoles and can possibly be used on a PC as well, depending on how the Radial Menus would work.
Without having played the second game yet (obviously) I would invision a post BioShock 1, pre BioShock 2 setting. There would be no factions, just you and a city full of NPCs and players that want you dead. Groups could and would be formed under similar banners (essentially a guild mechanic) to find like minded individuals to help watch your back. ADAM would be in limited supply (that's right!) so not everyone would have really awesome powers. Not only would ADAM drop off large boss encounters that are interspersed as the player base grows, as well as players that are killed, essentially stealing their ADAM up to a garenteed minimum based on some sort of rating system. For the ADAMless, you'd have Power to the People stations to upgrade guns.almostgold said:
As much as I enjoy lovey-dovey, money coems out monsters' asses, everyone gets to be super powerful, casual player MMOs, Rapture is all about kill or be killed and that's what I'd want the system to reflect. No man can take the sweat from the player's brow except men who work harder than him. A fair lesson most MMO players could stand to learn.
How about a Mortal Kombat-style fighting game featuring Valve characters?
Gordon Freeman vs Chell. TF2 Heavy vs L4D Tank. Counter-Terrorist vs DOD Nazi.
Gordon Freeman vs Chell. TF2 Heavy vs L4D Tank. Counter-Terrorist vs DOD Nazi.
Agree with you here, but I do think it was good to try and make an RTS specifically for the console. Alright, it didn't quite work, but it wasn't a bad game, and to their credit the controls were actually quite good considering what they had to work with.Amnestic said:
Now, porting Supreme Commander over to the 360, that was a bad idea.
The last 'decent' console RTS was Tom Clancy's EndWar.Rusty Bucket said:
Unfortunately, the voice controls sucked arse for me and continually mistook one order or number for another, making them entirely useless. I've heard some people have nothing but success - more power to them - but for me it was an exercise in frustration and futility.
Frankly, I don't think the RTS genre will ever work on consoles until they either have some sort of touch screen interface or a mouse.
Oh, certainly, a console RTS is currently not really plausible. That said, I still think it was important to try.Amnestic said:
This is actually one of the only applications I can see for Natal. It wouldn't be the most elegant solution, but using your finger as a cursor could make a console RTS properly viable.
Why cant we have a racing game from mass effect? Normandy v1 vs Normandy v2 or Mako vs shuttle. Crossovers can totally work.
I can see that working, but it'd never be as competitive on a high level as something like Starcraft or DotA simply due to limitations. There's no direct feedback from flailing your hands in the air for Natal and the UI would have to be modified about due to no keyboard shortcuts. For instance, no more A+Click for Attack Move, you have to click the picture on the UI for that - and that's assuming you can hit it with your finger and not accidentally get the pictures on the left or right of it.Rusty Bucket said:
As I said above, a touch screen might be better as you get the feed back and there's less chance of hitting the wrong button like you have with Natal. I haven't played any of the RTS games on the DS but I can see them working out fairly decently. But I doubt a non-handeheld console is going to go for a touch screen any time soon.
So...yeah, while Natal has the potential to help improve the RTS genre for consoles, I don't see it working out any better than a controller or (for me) voice commands.
