Was it Homophobic?

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Reqviemus

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I really don't like those tolerance campaigns. To me, homosexuals should try to convince public that they are same as everyone else, yet such campaigns seem to ephasize the fact that they are, in some way different.
The said poster was the best (the worst ...) example, where one is attacked with uncomfortable imagery, and right of the bat is warned not to think anything bad about it.
To me it's...well, confrontational.
 

Angerwing

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I'm uncomfortable seeing two gay guys making out. I'm uncomfortable seeing two old people making out. I'm uncomfortable seeing two ugly people making out.

Just because I see two guys kissing, and it grosses me out, I'm not a homophobe. Men are completely unattractive to me. So seeing them doing something sexual weirds me out. Holding hands? Sure. Hugs? Go to town. But when I want you to keep your private intimacy private, don't try to label me a homophobe. It only demeans you.
 

Booze Zombie

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I really don't have a problem with homosexuals, but I don't think any sexuality should be shoved in your face, gay, bi, straight, whatever, it's someone else's business unless I'm their sugar-daddy (or vice versa).

So, that poster is something I disagree with. It probably would've been more effective if you just had the two guys holding hands next to a picture of a straight couple holding hands with "is it really so different" or something cheesy like that, it'd probably have elicited a lot less of a negative reaction.
 

Woodsey

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Social disease is the perfect term to describe anything like homophobia or racism.

But, as long as you're not trying to ban them or something stupid, then fine.



Cid SilverWing said:
Homophobia is a sin.

Reject the Book of Leviticus.
What?

Booze Zombie said:
I really don't have a problem, but I don't think any sexuality should be shoved in your face, gay, bi, straight, whatever, it's someone else's business unless I'm their sugar-daddy (or vice versa).
The problem with the argument (not exactly yours, but you kinda mentioned it so I'll throw it out there) that people shouldn't "show off" their sexuality, is that straight people do it all the time.

We flirt with girls; talk about shagging, tits and arses, and whatever else constantly; laugh about porn; make wanking jokes, etc. etc.

And yet a gay person talks about being gay and suddenly they're an attention seeker.
 

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Woodsey said:
The problem with the argument (not exactly yours, but you kinda mentioned it so I'll throw it out there) that people shouldn't "show off" their sexuality, is that straight people do it all the time.

We flirt with girls; talk about shagging, tits and arses, and whatever else constantly; laugh about porn; make wanking jokes, etc. etc.

And yet a gay person talks about being gay and suddenly they're an attention seeker.
Well, we don't talk about being straight either.
We talk to straight people about straight things.

You can be damn well sure that homosexuals talk to other homosexuals about shagging, tits and arses(if they're women), and whatever else. They laugh about porn, make wank jokes, etc. etc.
EDIT: If they're your mates they also talk to you about that. I have a gay friend who constantly makes me uncomfortable, and he loves it.

That has nothing to do with attention seeking.

Attention seeking is the gay pride parade, for example... Which serves counter-productively towards having "homosexuality" accepted as "normal".
 

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Yes, definitely a double standard here. Heterosexual innuendo and outright expression is all over the place --constantly-- in our society. Homosexual behavior is part of the minority, and its easy to get uncomfortable around things you aren't exposed to on a daily basis.

I grew up in Arizona and would characterize myself as a teen as "open minded but still completely and totally uncomfortable" around other lifestyles, until I went to college, and subsequently moved to Seattle, WA and lived on Capitol Hill for close to ten years. After that experience, I grew pretty apathetic about alternative lifestyles. Live and let live, I say!

Any minority that has a right to expression should be allowed it. There is not and never should be a claim by the majority perspecitve that it is somehow right by virtue of numbers. Speaking as an atheist (because I am otherwise a straight white middle class male and have no persecution to fear outside of my beliefs) I can attest to the fact that there is no way I would decline to express my own views or opinions simply to keep the peace with someone else who feels "uncomfortable" around my perspective. That's their problem, not mine. And I think the same applies here, with this poster.
 

BlueberryMUNCH

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Well, to be uncomfortable with homosexuality is fine; that's definitely not homophobia.

A homophobe, by my definition, is someone that hates the gay community; and what you described is certainly not hate (Y)
 

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clockout said:
your sexuality in meaningless
That should well the the catchphrase of the "fed up" rights movement.

In answer to the question, maybe a little. Sorry dude, I wanna be on your side, but if it causes him a physical discomfort, then he's still treating it separately. Sexuality should be meaningless though, and posters depicting graphic sexuality shouldn't be in a school, regardless of sexuality.

My advice? Make him watch a load of guys sucking dick online, so that he becomes desensitized to it all. People kissing wont affect him then. Tear down that poster as well, it's stupid, inappropriate, and if anything, harms the gay community
 

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id feel uncomfotable even if it was 2 women kissing on that poster. i feel uncomfortable if i see anyone furiously making out publicly.
 

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s0denone said:
Woodsey said:
The problem with the argument (not exactly yours, but you kinda mentioned it so I'll throw it out there) that people shouldn't "show off" their sexuality, is that straight people do it all the time.

We flirt with girls; talk about shagging, tits and arses, and whatever else constantly; laugh about porn; make wanking jokes, etc. etc.

And yet a gay person talks about being gay and suddenly they're an attention seeker.
Well, we don't talk about being straight either.
We talk to straight people about straight things.

You can be damn well sure that homosexuals talk to other homosexuals about shagging, tits and arses(if they're women), and whatever else. They laugh about porn, make wank jokes, etc. etc.

That has nothing to do with attention seeking.

Attention seeking is the gay pride parade, for example... Which serves counter-productively towards having "homosexuality" accepted as "normal".
The point is, everyone displays their sexuality, constantly. Gays talk about it directly because they're still discriminated against (even in the law) - if you weren't considered equal in society you'd shout about it too.

The other half of it is having other people be comfortable with the fact that they're gay - if no one ever talks about being gay (either directly, through gay pride or whatever else) then you've got a lot more unhappy people.

I would love it if people could simply be gay and not have to do those things, because you'd see them be truly considered equal in society, but they're not, so they do do those things - and they will do them until we've got rid of all the dumb-arse homophobes.
 

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asking everyone to try and feel comfortable about homosexuality is like telling gay people to be straight. if people feel uncomfortable about anything they have the right to express their concerns, doesnt mean they ''hate'' anyone or have any kind of disease (which is the stupidest thing ive ever heard). gay people can be gay as they want - fair enough. not everyone gives a shit and its something that should never be premoted. i mean christ! whats society come to? people are far too assiduous when it comes to supporting homosexual ideals.

i have nothing against gay people but its shit like this that just really gets me worked up
 

Cliff_m85

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I hate people who call homophobia a disease. Or racism a mental disorder. It takes away the blame from the mindset and makes us 'pity' the poor poor individual that CAUGHT teh homophobia or lives with the ailment of racism. *rolls eyes*
 

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clockout said:
A friend of mine saw a very provocative gay rights poster in our school. He was two gay men dressed as hockey players making out. He asked me if was homophobic if he felt uncomfortable with it . I told him " It's fine to be uncomfortable with it, you're not a gay basher so I don't see a problem". I knew which poster he was talking about. I told him " It pissed me off, but for a different reason". The poster said "Homophobia is a social disease".When I saw it I thought to myself " fuck you, just because a person isn't down with who you are does not make them socially diseased."

That poster just really bothers me in general. It's really in your face. I understand the fact that the homosexual community hasn't had it easy, but I don't think you need to be all up in peoples face about it. You're homosexual, big fucking deal ( i'm in Canada).I almost want to rip that poster down. Your part of the human fucking race, you sexuality in meaningless and none of my concern.

In short; Is okay to be uncomfortable with homosexuality. I say yes.

I'm most likely wrong somewhere in here. I do enjoy other peoples perspective in such things, and love expanding my own perspective.
Having uncomfortable feelings towards homosexuality is plain homophobia. Perhaps not an extreme case but it is. Translate the word if you don't believe me.
And a picture of two people kissing shouldnt disturb anyone anymore. Regardless of their appearence.
Just loosen up pilgrims
 

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aussiechoco said:
asking everyone to try and feel comfortable about homosexuality is like telling gay people to be straight. if people feel uncomfortable about anything they have the right to express their concerns, doesnt mean they ''hate'' anyone or have any kind of disease (which is the stupidest thing ive ever heard). gay people can be gay as they want - fair enough. not everyone gives a shit and its something that should never be premoted. i mean christ! whats society come to? people are far too assiduous when it comes to supporting homosexual ideals.

i have nothing against gay people but its shit like this that just really gets me worked up
Homosexual ideals? Such as.....

When people say "I have nothing against _____ BUT" it means they have something against _____.

Daillak Rimli, like a muthafunka.
 
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I suppose its not so bad to feel uncomfortable, though you should really be looking at yourself and asking why it makes you uncomfortable. The poster is, however, completely correct to call homophobia a social disease, as that is exactly what it is.
 

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I think the purpose of that poster is to be up in your face and confrontational. That way you can't ignore it, and it will spark conversation, as it clearly has :p.
 

okok715

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I can't see it as homophobic, hell my best friend is gay but seeing a poster of two hockey players making out would make me a crap ton uncomfortable. but going around telling people that its wrong to like to do the humpity hump to their own sex is wrong and saying all gays are bad now thats Homophobic.

L;DR version: Naw bro its not homophobic
 

VanillaBean

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Homosexual people- No problem
Homosexual people making a big display of their homosexuality in public- Big problem.