slypizza said:
okay there may be some out there " but we really want to get married " okay but why do you have to go in front of a church and say "I do" ...African slaves jumped over a broom and they were declared married so do you really want to get married in gods eyes? or do you really just want to be in the government system so you can get free insurance from the demi-god that is the government you all oh so worship. because in my case I say screw them all love who ever you want but don't think having your name in a system makes it legit and bringing god into was just a cover up.
because if this is really the case most of the gays and lesbins are no better then the retarded straights everyone has ulterior motives.
Oh dear. There's something you need to understand about marriage.
These days, marriage comes in two flavors: legal and "religious." In America anyway, a legal marriage is that paper you get from the courthouse and signed by either a justice of the peace or an ordained minister[footnote]Most of the ones in the US are Christian, but other officials from other religions are allowed to have that authority as well.[/footnote]. This is what you get the marriage license for, and this is what makes you officially "married" in the eyes of the state. You don't need any of that religious stuff--you can just get the paper, get it signed by the judge, and be on your way. You're officially married with all the benefits that come with it, and no having to mess with that white dress or repeated vows.
The "religious" marriage I put in quotes there because the term might just be a little too narrow. Basically this is the ceremony that is done in most cases before the signing of the paper. It can be a Christian ceremony, Jewish, Muslim, Cherokee, Blackfoot, Hindu, Buddhist, or even through the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. What goes on in this "ceremony" has nothing to do with you actually getting "married." Granted it's usually the most fun and emotional part of the marriage process, but it's all fluff. You don't need any of it to get married.
What usually happens in a "traditional" marriage is the couple goes through the religious ceremony of their choosing, and afterward while everybody is heading to the reception they go off to the side with the minister or judge who did the ceremony and get them to sign it. If the person you have officiating doesn't have the authority to sign the paper (sometimes people have their close friends or relatives do the wedding), then they'll either have a judge or minister in the wing waiting to sign the paper, or they'll just do it at the courthouse the next day.
And that, my friend, is how marriage works. So when people say "We want gay marriage!" or "We don't want gay marriage!" what they are referring to is the paperwork sent to the state that gives them the legal status of "married" and all of the benefits that come with it. The government has no authority to tell what religious institutions who they can marry and under what circumstances. A Catholic church is allowed to refuse to marry non-Catholics, a Synagogue is allowed to refuse to marry non-Jews, and a Mosque is allowed to refuse to marry non-Muslims. And if there are other people they refuse to marry like gay people or interracial couples, they are allowed to refuse that ceremony.
And nobody is asking that to change. There are many churches now who welcome gay couples, and the number is slowly growing. But again, that doesn't matter in the end because what people are after is the
legal marriage.
