Watson Wins Jeopardy
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Do you think there is real fear? I just figure people are being silly. I am more saddened when I see the "its a computer, of course it should be able to win at Jeopardy" comments.tautologico said:I just feel all this fear is quite unnecessary. Blame sci-fi movies for this. The technology in Watson will be incredibly useful in the near future (and some of it we use everyday, right now).SimuLord said:There is never a bad time to point out the virtues of our species and the amazing feats that we are capable of when we use the divine inspiration instilled in us by our gods. It does wonders to inoculate us against the toxic virus of "people suck, humanity sucks, waaaaa."tautologico said:People, there's no reason to feel threatened. For now. It's just a computer that can do well in a sort of specific task. We're still a good way away from "true" self-aware intelligence. No need to start pointing to examples of human creativity as a defense.
No, no I'm not. The computer would have had access to a neigh infinite database of facts and answers whereas the humans actually had to study. The human players lost from the get go simply because the machine had access to more information than they did and was able to process the answers quicker.Corpse XxX said:
I'm never impressed when someone gets put up against a computer as some stupid publicity stunt. If the computer fails it means the makers of said AI need to work more on it. If it wins, well no surprise there.
Its not a knowledge problem. Its a problem of understanding questions. If it was easy it wouldn't require a room full of computers and 4 years of research to pull of this "stunt". It does have a huge publicity component though.KeyMaster45 said:
Truth often comes out in the form of humor. I think there is a real fear. It's subtle, but it's there.castlewise said:
If you consider real sentient machines, I don't think this is completely unwarranted, either. Basically you're talking about machines that can do anything we can, so we can be potentially replaced by them in any field. This is worrisome even if you discard dystopian scenarios where machines will try to put an end to humanity (why they would do that, anyway?).
Watson winning at the game was a great feat. It is not trivial, despite what some may think.
Psh we built those machines so that's worth like a bajillion points so thereravensheart18 said:
Still wish someone would hurry up and invent EMP guns and grenades though.
I'm still waiting for my GPS to become sentient.
"Take me to Shane's house."
"I'm sorry Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that."
".....how did you know my name?....and for that matter how did you know that quote?"
"Take me to Shane's house."
"I'm sorry Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that."
".....how did you know my name?....and for that matter how did you know that quote?"
You sir just made me laugh (falls off the chair and hardly escapes a neck injury)sicnasty77 said:
OT: Impossible for the human brain, despite still capable to carry more information then any Super Computer (actually our brain got more connections than all computers combined), to organize it and retrieve when needed.
It probably doesn't matter. They'll still kill us as soon as our ability to mine silicon from the asteroid belt begins to dip. This is the part of the Robot Takeover they never film or, talk about.zHellas said:You ninja!castlewise said:
I was so gonna post that here.
You're right, it is a matter of understanding, or in this case voice recognition.(or however watson was fed the questions) For starters Jeopardy has had the same host for several years, so if going by voice recognition all they'd need is to calibrate the voice recognition software to pick up specifically on Alex Trebeck's unique voice pattern. Even if they weren't using voice recognition many Jeopardy questions can be dissected to narrow down possible answers in a database of facts. Take this question for example which Watson got right.castlewise said:
The answer was emminent domain. Conceptually speaking this is probably how Watson concluded his answer.
1) This two word phrase: Narrow's down possible answers to all instances in database that are two word phrases.
2) means: Recognized as a word which denotes a definition will follow.
3)the power to take private property for public use; it's ok as long as there is just compensation: Locate nearest match for given definition with database of definitions under the constraint of two word phrases.
4) Conclusion: Eminent Domain.
Sure the programming behind that must be staggering and impressive in it's immensity, but when it comes to the concept of what it's doing it functions all to similarly to an electronic version of twenty questions I've got sitting in my room. I remain unimpressed with the overall project.
You think nitrohydrochloric acid would be too sadistic on the robots? OH! And make sure the secret shelters have a TV and anime, please. Arigatou.Redlin5 said:
[sub]If they don't, can we kick them?[/sub]
I'm not so much impressed with the machine (because it's a machine) as I am with the people that built it.
There's your sense of wonder.
There's your sense of wonder.
We are just advanced biological machines. There is no reason why a computer could not become as awesome as Beethoven at making music.SimuLord said:There is never a bad time to point out the virtues of our species and the amazing feats that we are capable of when we use the divine inspiration instilled in us by our gods. It does wonders to inoculate us against the toxic virus of "people suck, humanity sucks, waaaaa."tautologico said:People, there's no reason to feel threatened. For now
Divine inspiration is not required to make awesome music either.
1. Never say never. Human mind is not something special, it's just a very powerful, subtle computer. It is governed by natural laws and therefore it can be replicated.SimuLord said:I don't doubt that technology will be incredibly useful. But one wonders if the machine heads and computer scientists are not themselves missing the point by thinking that computers are under attack when we as humans point out that there are things we can do that computers simply cannot, and that so many of those things speak to an indomitable spiritual uniqueness that can never be captured within the circuits of a machine (and, by extension, even if I prove to be wrong and computers CAN create with the soul of a human? There's something very Lieutenant Commander Data about that---the machine striving to become the man.)tautologico said:I just feel all this fear is quite unnecessary. Blame sci-fi movies for this. The technology in Watson will be incredibly useful in the near future (and some of it we use everyday, right now).SimuLord said:There is never a bad time to point out the virtues of our species and the amazing feats that we are capable of when we use the divine inspiration instilled in us by our gods. It does wonders to inoculate us against the toxic virus of "people suck, humanity sucks, waaaaa."tautologico said:People, there's no reason to feel threatened. For now
But above all...can a computer ever see the wonders of a god or gods? Can it gaze up at the heavens and ponder an existence beyond what its circuits tell it is likely or possible? Can it love?
And if so, is all human existence, is the sum total of what makes our species such a wonder to behold, just a series of zeroes and ones? As a religious man (and there is something inherently atheistic about technocracy) I prefer to think otherwise.
2. Commander Data is an awful character, I hate AI's in sci-fi that strive to become human. AI is not better intelligence, it's not worse, it's just different. Wanting to throw away what makes you - you, is a bad decision.
Actually, saying inspiration is instilled by gods is sort of like saying "humanity sucks". The ability of inspiration comes from within. It's humanity's superpower, like a cheetah's speed or a bird's flight. It's been evolving in us since the first hominid was pleased by the sound of a stick hitting a hollow log, or discovered that air going through the mouth a certain way makes birdlike sounds.tautologico said:
Anybody with the last name Connor?
Please, for the fate of humanity, have a son and name him John.
Actually, try to have as many sons as you can and name them all John.
We're going to need as many John Connors as we can get, because soon they will have to lead the human resistance against the machines, led by the evil overlord... Watson!
Please, for the fate of humanity, have a son and name him John.
Actually, try to have as many sons as you can and name them all John.
We're going to need as many John Connors as we can get, because soon they will have to lead the human resistance against the machines, led by the evil overlord... Watson!