Ways to deal with overpopulation

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Midnight Crossroads

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The problem doesn't really stem from North America, Australia, Europe, and parts of Asia. These places have low birthrates. Dangerously so in some areas. We need to tackle and properly regulate Africa, large parts of Asia, and parts of America.

-Invest in more efficient use of fossil fuels
-Invest in alternative fuel sources, especially solar power
-Massive oasification
-Create a stable, economically independent Africa, South America, and Asia.

The first three will reduce the impact of the fourth, which is the most important part. Birth rates decline as wealth rises. Girls in parts of Africa are already highly discouraged from having children young because mothers worry it will cut into their chances of going to college. That stuff has to become normal. It would help if the Catholic Church would just bite the bullet and allow people to use contraceptives. It's not doing Africa any services, and condoms would go a long way to getting the birth rate down to around a good 2.

Even if there wasn't social or political unrest in large parts of South America and Africa, there's still the problem of a lack of good deep-water ports and current trade routes. Most trade goes through the Suez and Panama canals, which bypasses most of Africa and South America entirely. This is starting to change, Brazil and Nigeria especially, but there's a long way to go.

Unfortunately, this will probably take a chunk out of Europe and North America as competition for resources rises which we might not be too keen to take.
 

kouriichi

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Two words.....

ARENA COMBAT~!
Once a month, stick 500000 people into an arena. Last person standing gets 1 million dollars. ((Or, ive their a convict, their freedom with only 1 strike left. Any crimes committed after release is an automatic death penalty.))
Watch them duke it out. Sell tickets to anyone over 21. Use the tickets to fuel the games.

Rinse, repeat, population problem solved in a few years. People with no future could fight, and have a chance to make something if their future. People with a bad past have a chance to wipe the slate clean and start over anew.

Then use the bodies of the dead as fertilizer, and use the crops to feed the starving, homeless and poor. All additional proceeds go to fighting cancer, AIDS, and HIV.

Sure, its a bit cruel, and there are probably better alternatives, but this one would be one of the cheapest and fastest.
 

RanD00M

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werewolfsfury said:
RanD00M said:
werewolfsfury said:
RanD00M said:
Do what China does to some extent. Only two kids per parents. That way we drastically reduce the birthrates without eliminating anyone.
but... doesn't china still have tons of people?
That's because of the size. And because almost everyone has two children there, at least two children. But here in the western world people don't think as much about keeping the family alive and making long lasting workers. I'm saying cap it at two for people that want children, and then everyone else that doesn't want to have a child can just go about their daily lives.
that still doesn't seem like it would work at all
Please do elaborate as to why it would not work.
 

Lukeje

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llew said:
Lukeje said:
llew said:
Lukeje said:
It's not really 7 billion. It's only about 7,000,000,000 people (i.e. seven thousand million). I still don't understand why Americans use the short scale...

But anyway. There's still more than enough food and space to go around, so I don't see what the problem is.
a thousand million is a billion... and as for "plenty of food to go around" tell that to africa
One thousand million is a short-scale billion. Pay attention.

And why should I tell that to Africa?
tell that to africa to see if you have any limbs left afterwards, one of my friends has been out there and she said people were killing each other over food where she went,
People kill each other over food in Britain too. What of it?
and i don't know anyone that says "a thousand million" instead of "a billion" short-scale or not, besides ive never heard of it being a "short-scale" (for note im british)
That's mainly because of the influence of the American markets.
 

Jadak

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Lukeje said:
Jadak said:
Lukeje said:
It's not really 7 billion. It's only about 7,000,000,000 people (i.e. seven thousand million). I still don't understand why Americans use the short scale...
I'm not following you, a billion is a thousand millions, so those two are the same thing?

What is 7 billion to you then if not the same as seven thousand million?
7 x 10[sup]12[/sup].
Which is 7 trillion...
 

Lukeje

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Jadak said:
Lukeje said:
Jadak said:
Lukeje said:
It's not really 7 billion. It's only about 7,000,000,000 people (i.e. seven thousand million). I still don't understand why Americans use the short scale...
I'm not following you, a billion is a thousand millions, so those two are the same thing?

What is 7 billion to you then if not the same as seven thousand million?
7 x 10[sup]12[/sup].
Which is 7 trillion...
(short scale).
 

BlumiereBleck

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Simple, use of space travel to create space colonies on the moon or in space...seriosuly if it happened in Gundam it will happen in real life.
 

Jadak

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Lukeje said:
Jadak said:
Lukeje said:
Jadak said:
Lukeje said:
It's not really 7 billion. It's only about 7,000,000,000 people (i.e. seven thousand million). I still don't understand why Americans use the short scale...
I'm not following you, a billion is a thousand millions, so those two are the same thing?

What is 7 billion to you then if not the same as seven thousand million?
7 x 10[sup]12[/sup].
Which is 7 trillion...
(short scale).
You mean the only scale anyone actually uses? Why not just start posting in Hexadecimal numbers and complaining about how nobody else uses those in everyday conversation?
 

Lukeje

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Jadak said:
Lukeje said:
Jadak said:
Lukeje said:
Jadak said:
Lukeje said:
It's not really 7 billion. It's only about 7,000,000,000 people (i.e. seven thousand million). I still don't understand why Americans use the short scale...
I'm not following you, a billion is a thousand millions, so those two are the same thing?

What is 7 billion to you then if not the same as seven thousand million?
7 x 10[sup]12[/sup].
Which is 7 trillion...
(short scale).
You mean the only scale anyone actually uses?
The only scale the English speaking world in general uses, yes.
 

Jadak

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Lukeje said:
Jadak said:
Lukeje said:
Jadak said:
Lukeje said:
Jadak said:
Lukeje said:
It's not really 7 billion. It's only about 7,000,000,000 people (i.e. seven thousand million). I still don't understand why Americans use the short scale...
I'm not following you, a billion is a thousand millions, so those two are the same thing?

What is 7 billion to you then if not the same as seven thousand million?
7 x 10[sup]12[/sup].
Which is 7 trillion...
(short scale).
You mean the only scale anyone actually uses?
The only scale the English speaking world in general uses, yes.
Interesting, *looks around*. How about that, this forum seems to be in English.
 

Lukeje

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Jadak said:
Lukeje said:
Jadak said:
Lukeje said:
Jadak said:
Lukeje said:
Jadak said:
Lukeje said:
It's not really 7 billion. It's only about 7,000,000,000 people (i.e. seven thousand million). I still don't understand why Americans use the short scale...
I'm not following you, a billion is a thousand millions, so those two are the same thing?

What is 7 billion to you then if not the same as seven thousand million?
7 x 10[sup]12[/sup].
Which is 7 trillion...
(short scale).
You mean the only scale anyone actually uses?
The only scale the English speaking world in general uses, yes.
Interesting, *looks around*. How about that, this forum seems to be in English.
I get the impression you're not really taking me seriously...
 

Jadak

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Lukeje said:
Jadak said:
Lukeje said:
Jadak said:
Lukeje said:
Jadak said:
Lukeje said:
Jadak said:
Lukeje said:
It's not really 7 billion. It's only about 7,000,000,000 people (i.e. seven thousand million). I still don't understand why Americans use the short scale...
I'm not following you, a billion is a thousand millions, so those two are the same thing?

What is 7 billion to you then if not the same as seven thousand million?
7 x 10[sup]12[/sup].
Which is 7 trillion...
(short scale).
You mean the only scale anyone actually uses?
The only scale the English speaking world in general uses, yes.
Interesting, *looks around*. How about that, this forum seems to be in English.
I get the impression you're not really taking me seriously...
I'm kind of hoping you're not trying to be serious, either.
 

Lukeje

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Jadak said:
Lukeje said:
Jadak said:
Lukeje said:
Jadak said:
Lukeje said:
Jadak said:
Lukeje said:
Jadak said:
Lukeje said:
It's not really 7 billion. It's only about 7,000,000,000 people (i.e. seven thousand million). I still don't understand why Americans use the short scale...
I'm not following you, a billion is a thousand millions, so those two are the same thing?

What is 7 billion to you then if not the same as seven thousand million?
7 x 10[sup]12[/sup].
Which is 7 trillion...
(short scale).
You mean the only scale anyone actually uses?
The only scale the English speaking world in general uses, yes.
Interesting, *looks around*. How about that, this forum seems to be in English.
I get the impression you're not really taking me seriously...
I'm kind of hoping you're not trying to be serious, either.
*shrug* I see the long scale as being more logical, but realistically I just use powers of 10 to avoid confusion. The ambiguity inherent in the word `billion' is still a problem though.
 

ckam

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Well, all we have to do is allow the state to enter into more wars. Or maybe we could just have World War 3. That would solve overpopulation.
 

Jadak

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Lukeje said:
*shrug* I see the long scale as being more logical, but realistically I just use powers of 10 to avoid confusion. The ambiguity inherent in the word `billion' is still a problem though.
Except as far as those brought up in education systems similar to mine (which is apparently the english speaking world on this matter) are concerned, there is no ambiguity. Million is a thousand thousands, billion is a thousand millions, trillion is a thousand billions, and so on. It's consistent, and to us, those terms never mean anything else, just that and exactly that.
 

Lukeje

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Jadak said:
Lukeje said:
*shrug* I see the long scale as being more logical, but realistically I just use powers of 10 to avoid confusion. The ambiguity inherent in the word `billion' is still a problem though.
Except as far as those brought up in education systems similar to mine (which is apparently the english speaking world on this matter) are concerned, there is no ambiguity. Million is a thousand thousands, billion is a thousand millions, trillion is a thousand billions, and so on. It's consistent, and to us, those terms never mean anything else, just that and exactly that.
If you say so. But the ambiguity does remain and has the possibility of raising its ugly head at the most inopportune moments. You could just remove the ambiguity and use `thousand-million' for short-scale billion and `million-million' for long-scale billion, but people seem reluctant to do this...
 

Jadak

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Lukeje said:
Jadak said:
Lukeje said:
*shrug* I see the long scale as being more logical, but realistically I just use powers of 10 to avoid confusion. The ambiguity inherent in the word `billion' is still a problem though.
Except as far as those brought up in education systems similar to mine (which is apparently the english speaking world on this matter) are concerned, there is no ambiguity. Million is a thousand thousands, billion is a thousand millions, trillion is a thousand billions, and so on. It's consistent, and to us, those terms never mean anything else, just that and exactly that.
If you say so. But the ambiguity does remain and has the possibility of raising its ugly head at the most inopportune moments. You could just remove the ambiguity and use `thousand-million' for short-scale billion and `million-million' for long-scale billion, but people seem reluctant to do this...
Because for "people", there's no reason to. It isn't even a matter of choosing one over the other as honestly, prior to this topic I don't think I'd ever even been exposed to long scale. It could even be better as far as I'm concerned, but for what our educational systems expose us to, it doesn't even exist. And people certainly aren't going to compensate for things that don't exist to them.