I agree about the superiority of the Japanese developers, but I believe that Deus Ex Human Revolution wasn't so special.
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Eidos Interactive Ltd. better known as Eidos, is a British video game publisher and is a label of Square Enix Europe.Hookah said:Clive Howlitzer said:
Um, you might wanna check your geography..
I am not a moron, I know where Montreal is. It might maintain offices all around, but its a British game developer.
Yeah. Troll fail. Eidos Montreal is in, y'know, Montreal. Which is in Quebec. Which is in Canada. I should know, I'm a montrealer.Ode to Oda said:
Squeenix is merely the game's *publisher*. It had no impact whatsoever on how the game was made, barring joke cameos of the Final Fantasy series through posters in the game world.
I know, right? Nixxes actually turned out a stable and usable port!RhombusHatesYou said:
THE WORLD IS ENDING! SHITTY PORTS ARE OVER AND THE MAYANS WERE RIGHT!
If only.
While that guys post was kind of condescending, you just pointed out yourself that the parent company, Eidos the game publisher, is British but the team which actually developed the game is based in Montreal, so technically the developer isn't a British company, but rather a subsidiary of a British Company. Which, when you think about it, is itself a subsidiary of a Japanese company so if we're going to argue that Eidos Montreal is a British company because their parent, Eidos Interactive, is based there then we may as well say they're all really Japanese companies after all.Clive Howlitzer said:
Not that it really matters where they're based since much of the team may not even be from Canada originally, so those sorts of semantics are a bit moot I suppose beyond pointing out it wasn't a Japanese developer which made the game.
Oh course there are some amazing Japanese developers out there, probably some of the best.
Unfortunately, i'm hesitant to say that Squeenix is one of them. They have fallen these past few years into the pit of mediocracy.
Unfortunately, i'm hesitant to say that Squeenix is one of them. They have fallen these past few years into the pit of mediocracy.
Square-Enix was just the publisher. Eidos Montreal still developed it.Ode to Oda said:
The first two sentences of the Wikipedia article...
"Deus Ex: Human Revolution is a science fiction action role-playing video game developed by Eidos Montreal and published by Square Enix. Released in August 2011, it is the third game in the Deus Ex series, and a prequel to the original game released in 2000."
The developers make the games, the publishers pay the production costs. Check your facts before you make a verbose claim.
Good sir, have you played Uncharted or Legacy of Kain recently?? you know, made by western developers.Vault101 said:
Try harder in the future.Ode to Oda said:
Internet wasn't invented yesterday. People got used to similar arguments. All you can count now is simply "meh"...
BTW :
DX:HR is suffering from "Costner Syndrome". You play it once, and that's it. There's no reason to replay it. Ever. Why ? Because with the exception of gathering some achievements you missed on the way, there's NOTHING you can do that could generate different outcome.
For example : you can slaughter whole police station and... ? Who gives a f*ck ?
World obviously doesn't.
JesterRaiin said:
True. But i still replayed it 2 times after the first ^_^
First time a stealth/ action hybrid
Then i replayed it gunning through everything
Then i replayed it once more to get the no-killing/ highest difficulty achievements (Super sneaky).
Each time was considerably different to the last
Eido's have been involved with some of the best games ever IMO.
Each time was quite
No one's played Legacy of Kain lately since the series is pretty much dead since the financial troubles Eidos had and Amy Hennig leaving and going to Naughty Dog. Probably not a coincidence on that last point as far as the cut scenes go.DioWallachia said:
But I have to say, as much as Uncharted uses a lot of cut scenes to tell the story, at least they aren't 10 minutes long. They're usually pretty good about getting in and out of them quickly with very few exceptions, and they suit the cinematic style the games use heavily anyway.
In a word: No.
Nintendo and Sega have been beating the same five franchises for twenty years now. How many final fantasy branded games is squeenix up to? 15? 20? People have been saying that the Japanese are better at making games since the 80's and it hasn't been true for a minute.
Nintendo and Sega have been beating the same five franchises for twenty years now. How many final fantasy branded games is squeenix up to? 15? 20? People have been saying that the Japanese are better at making games since the 80's and it hasn't been true for a minute.
Wasnt HR developed by a montreal team? Last I checked, Monteal is in canada, which lies firmly in the Americas (and if it doesnt then the habs are having som SERIOUS traveling costs that makes the Jets bitching about it seem childish).
Anyway, Japan as a whole has also released very terrible games, and they're not superior to the west in everything.
Anyway, Japan as a whole has also released very terrible games, and they're not superior to the west in everything.
World of DX:HR simply doesn't care. There's no award or punishment for Adam, no matter if he is Goody MacGoodGuy or Evil O'Bastard. The only essential choice you made is at the end and even so - it's no chain of events. You do nothing to unlock this or that ending. You simply... press the right button.daveman247 said:Each time was considerably different to the last
So...
In terms of gameplay - yes. Every gameplay is a little different, even if we're talking about Tetris or Mario game.
In terms of story ? Immersion ? I don't think so. That's "Costner Syndrome". :|
Yes, I presently thought the thread may have been related to that or a similarly great game like Dark Souls but DE:HR? Please, the endings weren't worth playing through the game for and the final boss was easier than the first. Some elements of the story were good but it's hard to remember them each time I fell through a plot hole.TopazFusion said:
Also Square Enix were the publishers naut the developers. Additionally, did anyone else find the FF easter egg poster in the game? Certainly shows how far SE is aiming to continue their franchise into our dystopian future.
Would it be funny if I said I was playing Legacy of Kain around August/September time last year?Vivi22 said:No one's played Legacy of Kain lately since the series is pretty much dead since the financial troubles Eidos had and Amy Hennig leaving and going to Naughty Dog. Probably not a coincidence on that last point as far as the cut scenes go.DioWallachia said:
I don't agree, I played Deus Ex, it as all right, but it doesn't make me feel that the Japanese are better games developers, it's just one game, I hate JRPG's, of which there are many, but I don't say that means the japanese are horrible game developers, even though it is a better argument. Also, the japanese didn't make the Elder scrolls.