Well, the election is tomorrow.....(for America, dumbass)

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theklng

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axia777 said:
Erana said:
Obama's going to win, but because America isn't very well educated,
Are you serious? WTF? That is so derogatory. STFU.
maybe it is derogatory, but it's damn close to the truth. people went to america to live the american dream. to free themselves from bonds, some of which were education. you can't deny you have a bunch of states where people rigoriously believe in christianity above anything else, and have little understanding of, well, sophistication. that being said, everyone has the right to an opinion, and you have no right to try and silence what other people say.

every nation has its weeds, sure, but america has so many more than anyone else. this has no doubt affected and still affect politics. you should be thankful that there were so many good presidents in the past that made up for mistakes that let america ascend to where it was at its pinnacle. otherwise i'd picture a new civil war that would seperate the south/middle and the east/west from each other. i think it would be for the better if it happened though, i think all of the american people, as well as everyone else would benefit from the change.

also, if you take offense from the quote then it means you're feeling uneducated.
 

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bigcountry78 said:
Retoru said:
bigcountry78 said:
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Zeke109 said:
Since it is the third, the election is tomorrow, and I'm pretty much pissing myself with excitement. It's a first if either of them get elected, and for the first time since the 1928 election, there are no incumbents.
Any predictions?

Obama's gonna get elected good.....
How is it the first time since 1928 that there are no incumbents? There wasn't an incumbent president in the 2000 election, there wasn't an incumbent president in the 1988 election, there wasn't an incumbent president in the 1968 election, there wasn't an incumbent president in the 1960 election...need I continue?
Because Cheney is not running. In those you listed the vice president ran for president.

Riots or a public disterbance? What would make you think that? I don't think much will change, Other than if Obama get elected Im buying a gun on the 5th.
Being VP doesn't make you incumbent, incumbent means you're running for election to the same position you currently hold. Though, using your logic you're still wrong. As recently as 1952 we had an election where the sitting president and sitting vice president were not on the ticket for the office.

In the 1952 election we had Adlai Stevenson running against Dwight Eisenhower, but the sitting president was Harry Truman, who chose not to run for re-election and the sitting vice presidnent was Alben Barkley who couldn't secure the nomination against Stevenson.

Seriously, do your research, man.
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You got me. Notice I said "I think", meaing I was taking a guess at what he was saying.

Seriously, you are soooo smart, man.

Though using my logic, you only mentioned 88' 68' and 60'.
Notice you said "I think", meaning you were taking a guess in phrases not at all related to anything I said? You said "I think" while talking about riots, I said nothing of riots in my post.

Seriously, I can be soooooo much more of a condescending prick than you can, man.
 

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Hunde Des Krieg said:
Beowulf DW said:
TomNook said:
Obama will spend us into oblivion if he gets elected. I did see a bunch if McCain posters in New Hampshire on Saturday, so there is still hope.
No president is going to send this country into oblivion. This country has survived a great depression and two world wars. I think we'll manage.
and also, why do people assume Obama is ball-less when it comes to defense and that we will fall to "terrorists", in time of war no president has failed us.
It's how it works baby. Republicans send out Sith Emperor wannabes and Democrats send out guys you can talk and talk(quite well I might add) but will ultimately do nothing.

I disliked both and went Libertarian bound with my views... I just dislike every other party(Dem.s, Rep.s, Greens, Constitutionals are the big ones) and I didn't want to feel left alone(Independent).
 

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H.S.T said:
If Obama gets in, some supremecist, tobacco-chewing inbread from the deep south will have killed him by christmas.
Yeah, and if McCain wins some pissed of black trash Jessie Jackson supporter will off him.
 

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ya i think obama will win and if he does it will be chaos for a while in the US.
makes me glad I live in Canada.
 

Mistah Kurtz

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I'm worried that there will be chaos if Obama DOESN'T win - it could end up like Rodney King part 2.
 

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It looks like Obama's going to win. Most everybody is realizing if we elect McCain, we'll just get Bush for another four years--unless, as is very likely, McCain dies during his term, and then we'll get Palin, and that's a really scary thought.
I am afraid though, that if Obama gets elected some KKK sonofabitch is going to off him as soon as possible.
 

Mistah Kurtz

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Why do people keep saying this? Look at racial crime statistics - 95% of all interracial crime in the U.S. is black on white, not the other way around.
 

axia777

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theklng said:
axia777 said:
Erana said:
Obama's going to win, but because America isn't very well educated,
Are you serious? WTF? That is so derogatory. STFU.
maybe it is derogatory, but it's damn close to the truth. people went to america to live the american dream. to free themselves from bonds, some of which were education. you can't deny you have a bunch of states where people rigoriously believe in christianity above anything else, and have little understanding of, well, sophistication. that being said, everyone has the right to an opinion, and you have no right to try and silence what other people say.

every nation has its weeds, sure, but america has so many more than anyone else. this has no doubt affected and still affect politics. you should be thankful that there were so many good presidents in the past that made up for mistakes that let america ascend to where it was at its pinnacle. otherwise i'd picture a new civil war that would seperate the south/middle and the east/west from each other. i think it would be for the better if it happened though, i think all of the american people, as well as everyone else would benefit from the change.

also, if you take offense from the quote then it means you're feeling uneducated.
Hardly, I have a Bachelors of Science.

Sure America has it's problems, but like I have said before, calling the majority of people here stupid or uneducated is like me saying all Brits are snobby and stuffy. Which they are not. Also saying that America has more problems than most other countries in the world is laughable. Look at Africa for example. Civil war, starvation, mass rape/murder, the list goes on for days. Britain also has it's problems with to many cameras watching everyone. Every country has issues.
 

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Erana said:
1. So, I'm the only one who found it odd that they teach more about the Roman gods than about their society and government system?
no i don't find it odd in the least

2. What, exactly, did Egypt do for us if science is so apparently unimportant for modern Western society?

hmmm let's see, majour medical research, great features of architecture and mathematics, buildings and artwork that have stood for thousands of years

3. when I said, "both," I was saying that we, ideally, should teach our kids about ancient cultures and Arab civilization.
sorry to say they didn't do much, they gave us some words and our numbering system but mostly they've been overly warlike trying to impose their will onto us

3. The Arab Empire (and its many dirivitave societies) is a significant factor in our culture. Not only sciences, but things like soap, arcetecture (most notably the vaulted arches of places of worship), extensive social mobility, trade to the rest of the (then) known world and religious tolerance are only a few things that effect the modern Western world. Its as least as relevent as how the Egyptians mummified people, in my opinion. Not to mention the proximity in time to the true development of Western culture, and the Ottoman's participation in WW1, and the subsequent screw up by the winning party.
well the society that contributed more was the PERSIAN empire not the Arab

social mobility was designed by cultures well before the Arabians came around, there's pictures of maize in egypt and chinese anchors that predate the Arabians by a couple thousand years off the coast of california

sorry religious tolerance was practiced by ancient cultures dating back to the groove ware ppl

4. I never said Iraq was the cradle of civilization, and what about Bagdhad, anyway?
nope you wrongly claimed it was places such as iran, which is rather untrue

5. What's wrong with my first statement? Virginia and Pennsylvania are important states. And by my saying that we are not very well educated, I really don't think we are. We are better educated than much of the world, but we can definitely do better than this. If we went to war with Iran, we would become an even bigger laughingstock, and be even more hated by Arab cultures. I know that because I am actively seeking to learn about the rest of the world in a setting of higher education and opportunity I realise that most Americans never get. And I have a kickass professor.
ok let me put this simply, you said how stupid america was and yet your sentence was chock full of bad grammar

btw the amount of assumptions you make is flawed and funny at the same time but probly not intentionally
which assumptions are those? i've happened to study some of the Arabian and Persian history, 2 very different histories and you happen to be confusing the 2
 

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Yokai said:
It looks like Obama's going to win. Most everybody is realizing if we elect McCain, we'll just get Bush for another four years--unless, as is very likely, McCain dies during his term, and then we'll get Palin, and that's a really scary thought.
I am afraid though, that if Obama gets elected some KKK sonofabitch is going to off him as soon as possible.
I wouldn't worry about that, the President has pretty good security.
 

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Can't vote, not being American and all, but I hope Obama wins. He will make America look good again.

Obama is a refreshing and intellectual change.

If McCain wins, my opinion of the American majority will drop considerably. An old man president and a psycho vice president doesn't look good.
 

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fluffylandmine said:
Hunde Des Krieg said:
Beowulf DW said:
TomNook said:
Obama will spend us into oblivion if he gets elected. I did see a bunch if McCain posters in New Hampshire on Saturday, so there is still hope.
No president is going to send this country into oblivion. This country has survived a great depression and two world wars. I think we'll manage.
and also, why do people assume Obama is ball-less when it comes to defense and that we will fall to "terrorists", in time of war no president has failed us.
It's how it works baby. Republicans send out Sith Emperor wannabes and Democrats send out guys you can talk and talk(quite well I might add) but will ultimately do nothing.

I disliked both and went Libertarian bound with my views... I just dislike every other party(Dem.s, Rep.s, Greens, Constitutionals are the big ones) and I didn't want to feel left alone(Independent).
I don't know, none of the parties perfectly match me, dems can be too liberal, repubs are too conservative(and too war hungry), greens are way too liberal and the constitution is the opposite, the libertarians aren't quite what I want either but they really don't have a snowball's chance, as much as I wish there was a viable alternative, only democrats or repubs have any chance of being elected to the presidency. makes me want to start a new country...
 

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cleverlymadeup said:
Erana said:
1. So, I'm the only one who found it odd that they teach more about the Roman gods than about their society and government system?
no i don't find it odd in the least

2. What, exactly, did Egypt do for us if science is so apparently unimportant for modern Western society?

hmmm let's see, majour medical research, great features of architecture and mathematics, buildings and artwork that have stood for thousands of years

3. when I said, "both," I was saying that we, ideally, should teach our kids about ancient cultures and Arab civilization.
sorry to say they didn't do much, they gave us some words and our numbering system but mostly they've been overly warlike trying to impose their will onto us

3. The Arab Empire (and its many dirivitave societies) is a significant factor in our culture. Not only sciences, but things like soap, arcetecture (most notably the vaulted arches of places of worship), extensive social mobility, trade to the rest of the (then) known world and religious tolerance are only a few things that effect the modern Western world. Its as least as relevent as how the Egyptians mummified people, in my opinion. Not to mention the proximity in time to the true development of Western culture, and the Ottoman's participation in WW1, and the subsequent screw up by the winning party.
well the society that contributed more was the PERSIAN empire not the Arab

social mobility was designed by cultures well before the Arabians came around, there's pictures of maize in egypt and chinese anchors that predate the Arabians by a couple thousand years off the coast of california

sorry religious tolerance was practiced by ancient cultures dating back to the groove ware ppl

4. I never said Iraq was the cradle of civilization, and what about Bagdhad, anyway?
nope you wrongly claimed it was places such as iran, which is rather untrue

5. What's wrong with my first statement? Virginia and Pennsylvania are important states. And by my saying that we are not very well educated, I really don't think we are. We are better educated than much of the world, but we can definitely do better than this. If we went to war with Iran, we would become an even bigger laughingstock, and be even more hated by Arab cultures. I know that because I am actively seeking to learn about the rest of the world in a setting of higher education and opportunity I realise that most Americans never get. And I have a kickass professor.
ok let me put this simply, you said how stupid america was and yet your sentence was chock full of bad grammar

btw the amount of assumptions you make is flawed and funny at the same time but probly not intentionally
which assumptions are those? i've happened to study some of the Arabian and Persian history, 2 very different histories and you happen to be confusing the 2
Dude modern algebra and geometry are rooted to the arabs, and very little eqyptian architecture is used today, and what medical research? also middle eastern terrorist cells have only been attempting to force their will on us for the last 40 years, before that it was the opposite, and still kind of is. you say you studied persian and arab culture? well did you bother to pay attention in those classes or get the info from somewhere valid?
 

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Hunde Des Krieg said:
fluffylandmine said:
Hunde Des Krieg said:
Beowulf DW said:
TomNook said:
Obama will spend us into oblivion if he gets elected. I did see a bunch if McCain posters in New Hampshire on Saturday, so there is still hope.
No president is going to send this country into oblivion. This country has survived a great depression and two world wars. I think we'll manage.
and also, why do people assume Obama is ball-less when it comes to defense and that we will fall to "terrorists", in time of war no president has failed us.
It's how it works baby. Republicans send out Sith Emperor wannabes and Democrats send out guys you can talk and talk(quite well I might add) but will ultimately do nothing.

I disliked both and went Libertarian bound with my views... I just dislike every other party(Dem.s, Rep.s, Greens, Constitutionals are the big ones) and I didn't want to feel left alone(Independent).
I don't know, none of the parties perfectly match me, dems can be too liberal, repubs are too conservative(and too war hungry), greens are way too liberal and the constitution is the opposite, the libertarians aren't quite what I want either but they really don't have a snowball's chance, as much as I wish there was a viable alternative, only democrats or repubs have any chance of being elected to the presidency. makes me want to start a new country...
We could as Escapists just populate it. It'd be like Australia, except instead of convicted felons as colonists, it would be realtivly polite crazy people who are intelligent that would colonize it in the name of ducks.