What are some gaming 'icons', companies, 'opinions' and/or famous games you hate?

[Angelblaze]

Just asking for sake of conversation.

For me:
Icons/Characters:Leisure Suit Larry. I get it okay? I GET IT.


Companies?: Nexon (NA but Kr a little as well. I'll be willing to forgive them if Ghost in the Shell online makes a western launch before 2016 and DFO gets an update by early summer/late spring.),EA, Activision. Please just....just die already. Please. You are all disgusting banes upon our industry and both need to go die.

Opinions: 'Metal Gear Rising was the worst Metal Gear Solid~'

It's not a Metal Gear SOLID GAME.
THAT'S WHY ITS CALLED METAL GEAR RISING....I've heard this complaint more times then I can freaking count. It's absolutely the most annoying thing I've heard since 'fiscal cliff' at this point.

'Final Fantasy hasn't been good since -insert number here-'

Hey, quick question to anyone that's ever said that, have you played 11? What's your favorite class combination and your highest level? Your favorite unlockable class?
What year did you join? What's your linkshell's name?
Did you play the revamped 15?

No?
Then you can't quite speak for the whole series as of 15 can you?
In fact I can say that for any 'omg this game is so bad' statements aside from the unplayable buggy games. (Example: Sonic 06 and A:CM)
Because if you ask people 'Did you play it?' and interrogate them about what they didn't like about it, you'll find they don't have an answer to justify their opinions (or at least, nothing you haven't already read/heard from some popular game reviewer somewhere).

'I'm so sick of these 12 year olds in my -insert game here-

More then likely those are actually grown men, as my experience from Halo and other online games tells me.

Famous Games: The entire CoD franchise (but then again I'm speaking as a Halo player)

 

[shrekfan246]

We get enough negative, spiteful, hate-filled threads about the worst, most overrated games created.

So I'm going to talk about the opposite.

I goddamn love Sonic the Hedgehog. He has survived for over twenty years on his design alone, and while the writing absolutely sucks in his games when they try shoving a story in, they're just so much fun to play.

You know what companies I love? CD Projekt RED. I've got a conflicting relationship with The Witcher franchise, but hell if I don't admire their business practices and public relations. Also Take-Two Interactive. Complete with 2K Games and Rockstar, they're an astounding publisher with a lot of good developers working under them.

You know what kind of opinions I can really get behind? "Hey, instead of being reactionary and saying something is going to be the worst thing ever right when it's announced, I'm going to either be cautiously optimistic or wait until I see actual information about the game before I judge it!"

"You like something I didn't like, but that's okay because things like that are subjective anyway and your opinion is just as valid as mine!"

And you know what game should totally get a sequel? Mirror's Edge.

 

[Pink Gregory]

We get enough negative, spiteful, hate-filled threads about the worst, most overrated games created.

So I'm going to talk about the opposite.

I can get behind this sentiment.

You know what kind of opinions I can really get behind? "Hey, instead of being reactionary and saying something is going to be the worst thing ever right when it's announced, I'm going to either be cautiously optimistic or wait until I see actual information about the game before I judge it!"

"You like something I didn't like, but that's okay because things like that are subjective anyway and your opinion is just as valid as mine!"

And this one.

Basically, if you're dedicating your precious time to 'hating' a game, of all things, you're probably doing it wrong. Less-than-admirable business practices, people, publishers; that I can understand, but a game? Why?

 

[JemothSkarii]

My bit of negativity will be that I hate Nexon with a passion. More than EA, more than Activision.

*snip*

Right, letsee...

I loves me some C&C: Generals. I found it to be a fun RTS with interesting factions. While it's certainly different to Westwood's time (I love me some Dune II by the way, Ordos all the way), it's still a very enjoyable game. Zero Hour ramped this up to 11 by adding in variations of factions, new maps, units and a campaign.

Favorite dev right now? Obsidian, followed by Kojima. I LOVE Fallout 1 and 2, it's the games which defined my childhood. MGS is one of my favorite series of all time with decent stealth mechanics and a very interesting (if long-winded) plot.

 

[MercurySteam]

I've already had a rage inducing week so let's keep this thread positive.

At the moment I'd have to say Irrational is my favourite dev. Bioshock 1 was amazing and Infinite is looking to be even better. I'm also really digging Visceral currently. No, DS3 wasn't perfect and it sure as hell wasn't scary but it was still a good game on its own merits.

 

[Robot Number V]

Man, I really wish the internet hadn't adopted this ridiculous abuse of the word "hate" to mean "any kind of mild dislike". Hate accomplishes absolutely nothing. I can dislike things, but that just means they were meant for someone else. Hate implies some kind of anger at the mere fact of something else's existence. What could that kind of feeling possibly accomplish?

Rather, I'm gonna jump on the Positivity Train: Sucker Punch does NOT get enough credit for how awesome they are. The Sly Cooper games remain my favorite PS2 games of all time, and Infamous 2 is actually one of the most emotional games I've ever played. Infamous 1 was OK.

Also, Valve is pretty awesome, despite how often they manipulate us into buying things we don't care about and making us think it was our idea. Because that money goes to a good cause, and lots of those games they trick us into buying are really good experiences that we probably wouldn't have played otherwise! See? Staying positive.

 

[ScoopMeister]

The positivity on display here is really starting to rub off on me. I'm so glad that this hasn't just deacended into a Master Chief hate thread or something...

Anyway, trying to pick favourites/least favourites is practically impossible. No developer is completely beneath my contempt, because they're almost all capable of doing something half-way decent if they really apply themselves to it.

 

[felbot]

I still hate always on-line drm and the people who buy games with it, I don't know what kind of mindless drone you have to be to actually buy this shit.

and while I am at it I despise any developer who actually makes always on-line drm a requirement.

 

[ItsNotRudy]

And you know what game should totally get a sequel? Mirror's Edge.

If they actually make the second game enjoyable and learned from the mass of mistakes of the first one, then sure. I think I'm the only one who hated that awful game. No pacing, shit controls and the story even more laughable.

 

[NearLifeExperience]

OP, this thread is stupid. And that's all the negativity you'll get from moi.

On a different note, I'm really enjoying Red Faction Guerilla at the moment. I find it endlessly entertaining to experiment with the destruction physics, driving a truck with explosives into someones living room, and use the sledgehammer to make door openings where there are none, packing a building with explosive canisters and blowing everything to pieces. I can't believe I overlooked this bundle of fun!

For some more positive vibes, here's a song that makes me happy. With the best video ever!

 

[NearLifeExperience]

The Sly Cooper games remain my favorite PS2 games of all time

Have you played the new one? I hear it's pretty funky

Edit: apologies for double post, I meant to merge this with my first one

 

[Casual Shinji]

OP, this thread is stupid. And that's all the negativity you'll get from moi.

On a different note, I'm really enjoying Red Faction Guerilla at the moment. I find it endlessly entertaining to experiment with the destruction physics, driving a truck with explosives into someones living room, and use the sledgehammer to make door openings where there are none, packing a building with explosive canisters and blowing everything to pieces. I can't believe I overlooked this bundle of fun!

The fun only increases once you get the JETPACK.

Red Faction Guerilla is indeed criminally overlooked. Yeah, the story and characters are are so nonexistent they almost collapse into a blackhole, but the controls for both the character and the vehicles are terrific, and the destruction gameplay is simply smashing good fun.

Taking buildings apart bit by bit, hearing them creak and bend under their own weight, and feeling the rumble in the controller of the imminent collapse. It still gives me butterflies in my stomach. And all this during the middle of a fire fight.

 

[Murrdox]

Anything Halo.

If I never had to look at another Master Chief, I'd be happy.

I STILL maintain that the only reason Halo is even popular is because the original game was the only shooter-type game on the original X-Box for quite a long time, so anyone who had an X-Box who wanted a shooter game bought Halo. It's like it tricked an entire generation of gamers into thinking a mediocre shooter was an awesome game.

Then of course Bungie got massive budgets for the sequels, and maybe the other games in the series were good, I don't know, I didn't play them.

But yeah. Sick of Master Chief, sick of Halo. Let it die already.

Right now, I love everything CD Projekt is doing. I can't wait for Witcher 3 and I can't wait for their Cyberpunk game. I'm also really excited by what I'm seeing from Shadowrun Online and Shadowrun Returns. There are so many awesome games coming out thanks to Kickstarter, I can't wait to play them all. I'm looking forward to more Kickstarter games that will be coming out in the next couple of years than I am looking forward to games made by major developers.

 

[DoPo]

I goddamn love Sonic the Hedgehog.

I know you talk about the series and I know you know that already, but it is firmly established and it bears repeating for others that the 2006 reincarnation is better than Portal. Objectively so. People sometimes forget that.

Mirror's Edge.

I am unable to express my full admiration for this game. Sure, I can point at the shortcomings - that's easy. It's also easy to overlook them because how pleasurable the experience as a whole is. The only somewhat notable shortcoming I found is that it doesn't have some sort of free roam mode, where you can just run around to your heart's content.

Let's see, I feel I need to gush about few more things - I'll go with Mark of the Ninja. I've said it already [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.402591-Pleasantly-surprised-by-Mark-of-the-Ninja] but I like it. I really liked it. It was way more than I expected - I thought it was a decent stealth game, it turned out it was a very good stealth game, also a very good platformer (and I am normally not impressed by the genre), and an enjoyable, if maybe simple, story that guides it along. Oh, and it looks gorgeous, I think.

What else? I know - Ghost Master. I meant to make a thread about it a while back but...I'm not sure why I didn't. I got it for £0.44 on Steam during the Winter sale (and at the same time there were people complaining how Steam didn't reduce prices enough...that was 85% off). It is...very good. It's like a cross between Commandos and Dungeon Keeper in a sense. You are a Ghost Master and you...control ghosts. Before you start each mission, you select a team of deceased, each with a different set of skills and your objective, a bit vaguely, is to scare people by using those ghosts. It's surprisingly choke-full of humour. I mean, yeah - the premise alone is played for laughs (Dungeon Keeper style) but you also run into the Ghost Busters and other entertaining characters. And it's also interestingly deep - the more you use the ghosts, the more you can "train" them, and the better trained they are, the more complex instructions can you give them. At first you can only tell them things like "don't do anything" or "unleash everything you've got" but as they progress you can happily give them a command that is "Only use some of your powers, on a specific group of people and only if they are alone when they are near you". I felt the ghost mechanics were very well done, too - each ghost had a type and also different ways of manifesting (so, being used) - some can only be deployed inside buildings, others only where there has been a murder, others still may need some element like water or electricity, and so on and so forth. It makes for a fun amount of planning - which do you bring and how do you use them. But my favourite part must be the characters - every character you meet - be they your own apparitions or the humans that are your targets, have a short bio that tells things like what they like (even if it doesn't matter in the game) what they don't (which does - a person who has been in a car crash which injured him and some of his friends, may fear blood more than other things, for example, while a pyrophobic would have an easier time freaking out when fires suddenly appear out of nowhere) and about relationships between them as well as personality. It's a paragraph of text but it's so enjoyable to read about them. Not to mention that there are many ghosts and each is interesting - there are fairly standard ones, like what one of Casper's uncles would look like, though ones that look like translucent humans at the time of death, then there are the exotic ones, like a cat that can influence chance and luck, a lizard made of fire who does fire related stuff, ghostly spiders, ghostly dog, ghostly half-horse (that's it just half of it [http://ghostmaster.gamewalkthrough-universe.com/Media/PurpleNet2010/Layout/Screenshots/GhostGuide/HypnosLg.jpg]) controlling dreams, ghostly chicken(...thing [http://ghostmaster.gamewalkthrough-universe.com/Media/PurpleNet2010/Layout/Screenshots/GhostGuide/HardBoiledLg.jpg]), ghostly light, ghostly...erm spirits (earth elementals, sprites) and so on. It's a very enjoyable game which somehow was overlooked by me and many others.

 

[Robot Number V]

The Sly Cooper games remain my favorite PS2 games of all time

Have you played the new one? I hear it's pretty funky

Edit: apologies for double post, I meant to merge this with my first one

I have indeed. I enjoyed it. It played more-or-less like the originals, despite the new developer, and they brought a lot of good, new ideas to the franchise. It's not QUITE as good as say, Sly 2 (my personal favorite) but it's still a perfectly good Sly game. It's certainly a better transition then most franchises make when they switch developers.

 

[ScrabbitRabbit]

Opinions: "Sonic the Hedgehog needs to die". His last two games were legitimately good and the last one was actually a good milestone, I think pretty much everyone has noticed that he has recovered. Why kill the franchise now, that it's finally producing good content?

Honestly, I thought the only 'bad' main series Sonic game was '06 (and Shadow if you count that, but even that had some redeeming qualities). The rest of the series is enjoyable if flawed.

I thought Unleashed was fantastic. I can see why other people didn't like the Werehog, but I thought it was fine. I just wish there was a little less of it and a greater variety of music in it's levels. It controlled well, had a good few combos and every hit felt nice and weighty. In fact, my little brother hated the daytime stages but loved the Werehog.

I'm glad to see most people have decided to be positive. We already have enough threads about how much gaming sucks, here and on every other gaming forum on the 'net. Makes you wonder why some people even bother playing games some times.

 

[thebobmaster_v1legacy]

Continuing on the positive streak, I think DAII is...not exactly up to par with DA:O, but definitely underrated. Yes, the repeating environments are annoying, as are the repeating mobs. However, I found the idea of a story that takes place almost entirely within one city, and a hero who is not exactly this badass from humble beginnings who saves the world, but simply a person trying to make their way in the world, being awesome in the process, a unique idea, and all the party members (except for maybe Isabella) were surprisingly well-written. Plus, the fact that choosing options that your party members disapprove of is not as serious a consequence as it was in DA:O (no party members leaving the party/trying to kill you for making the wrong choice here) makes me feel more in control of how my character is, not needing to go against my established character just to avoid pissing off people.

Also, I freaking love Alpha Protocol. It is not perfect, but it is one of the few games to promise that every choice will have a consequence, and actually deliver on it. None of this Fable crap where major choices have a consequence, but the minor stuff is a case of "who cares". In Alpha Protocol, even the order in which you do missions affects the story. Do one mission earlier, you have access to intel for another mission that you wouldn't normally have. Protip: always do North Korea before Moscow. Trust me on this.

 

[Rook]

I freaking hate Sonic. I mean the character, i care not for the games. I just find him annoying and repetitive and such an obvious character. Fuck Sonic! They're TRYING to make him cool. Their damn best by the looks of it. And now that they know that some people like him, Sega are just like 'hey everyone, look...it's SONIC! He's so cool....' So yeah, Sonic pisses me off.

Also, Mario... both the games and the character. Same situation as Sonic really, but the games just make me dislike the franchise even more. They just keep repeating the same shit over and over again, and people keep feeding them money. Don't go and assume that I'm just some new-school gamer who spends his time on Battlefield and Halo. That's not it at all, I just hate those two bastards.

Ingenuity is dead, people.