What Are Some Good Movies Where The GOOD GUY Fails?*

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Johnny Novgorod

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hermes200 said:
Johnny Novgorod said:
...has a pretty famous downer ending.
Funny choice, considering they are the bad guys.

- The Usual Suspects
- Hannibal
- Seven
- Wild Things
- Ton of slashers
I think you're confusing "criminals" with "bad guys".
 

MrCollins

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It's not really an action film, at all. But I just saw Nick Cage in The Weather Man and the ending is kind of a downer.
 

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Arlington Road is an interesting psychological thriller where the protagonist is either nuts, or his neighbors are terrorists.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0137363/
 

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How about Reservoir Dogs
every character dies but one.
I think you could make a case for The Dark Knight as well.
The Joker succeeds. Harvey Dent becomes Two Face and goes on a killing spree that Batman takes the fall for.
310 to Yuma
Good guy gets shot and dies, bad guy kills his own crew out of anger, then gets on the train but it's obvious he'll escape again.
 

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Johnny Novgorod said:
hermes200 said:
Johnny Novgorod said:
...has a pretty famous downer ending.
Funny choice, considering they are the bad guys.

- The Usual Suspects
- Hannibal
- Seven
- Wild Things
- Ton of slashers
I think you're confusing "criminals" with "bad guys".
No, but you might be confusing "protagonist" with "good guy".

Bonnie and Clyde did a lot of effort to depict them as the nice (if rebellious) type, but it doesn't change the fact they were ruthless criminals.
 

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No mention of Grave of the fireflies yet? I haven't even seen it, but I know what happens, and it's constantly cited as one of the most heartbreaking movies ever made. So definitely a downer.

A lot of people would disagree with me, but I actually like Revenge of the Sith, and since that movie is basically nothing but the good guys failing, IMO it counts.

Watchmen counts from a certain point of view. The "villain" succeeds, and the good guys fail to stop it, though it does basically have a happy ending.

And finally, Pan's Labyrinth. There the main character fails at what she is trying to achieve for the entire movie, though it's left somewhat ambiguous whether or not it actually happened.
 

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Not sure if horror films count but; Funny Games.


All others I can think of I have been ninja'd.
 

Johnny Novgorod

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hermes200 said:
Johnny Novgorod said:
hermes200 said:
Johnny Novgorod said:
...has a pretty famous downer ending.
Funny choice, considering they are the bad guys.

- The Usual Suspects
- Hannibal
- Seven
- Wild Things
- Ton of slashers
I think you're confusing "criminals" with "bad guys".
No, but you might be confusing "protagonist" with "good guy".

Bonnie and Clyde did a lot of effort to depict them as the nice (if rebellious) type, but it doesn't change the fact they were ruthless criminals.
Fact? What fact? You mean the real life Bonnie and Clyde? We're talking movies. The law and its sides don't make good or bad in the movies. When you say ruthless criminals you obviously mean in real life, and that's beside the point, cause they're not particularly ruthless in the movie. The scene with Hamer? They're pretty goofy and naiv. They're both the protagonists AND the good guys. And they fail, and that's a downer.
 

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There's this live-action Japanese film called "Death Trance". I think the DVD comes with both dub and the subtitles if I remember right, and I think Johnny Young Bosch does the dub. I'm not actually sure if it's good but I remember enjoying it on my first watch.
 

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Tanis said:
I can't think of a lot of 'downer movies' where, in the end, the good guy dies/fails to stop the nuke/whatever.

I was just wondering if ya'll knew any...

*Movies that end in a cliffhanger don't count.
:p
Some spoilers below (though I am mostly avoiding them)

Well, I'm not a big fan of most "downer" movies, but I will mention that there are plenty of horror movies that end this way, especially when the writers are trying to establish a franchise. In some of the "Nightmare On Elm Street" movies for example the good guys THINK they stopped Freddy, only to have him take out the survivors. Similar things happen in movies like "Drag Me To Hell", and well... lots of them. The kind of ending your taking about kind of fits with the idea of Horror, though even then I tend to prefer things ending on a high note.

From fairly recent movies I'm surprised nobody mentioned "Watchmen" or "Cabin In The Woods".

The ending of the comedy TV series "Sledge Hammer" has our "hero" trying to disarm a nuclear bomb, giving his classic "Trust me, I know what I'm doing..." before blowing it up and taking out the city.

The ending of the TV series "Lexx" amounts to an epic fail, in a series that is ultimatly about epic fails. :)

There are also numerous movies where the bad guy is actually the good guy (Watchmen is debatably this, as is Doctor Horrible's Sing Along Blog), or where the good guys fail but something happens to end things on a high note anyway.

The Anime series "Speed Grapher" ends on a note where the good guy fails to defeat the bad guy, who for all of his evil has a somewhat noble motive despite the collateral damage and twisted stuff he does. The hero lives on having lost the one thing he cherished, his eye-sight, no longer being able to take the pictures he loved, and the bad guy's plan ultimatly fails leaving nothing but ruin in it's wake as the greedtastic corrupt elite he set out to bring down just gets replaced by a similar group, including his own surviving minions.

While not as dramatic as your example, since nobody dies, the movie "Rocky" arguably fits the definition as well. Our hero ultimatly fails, the story being mostly about how incredible it was he went up against the champ and survived as long as he did when nobody else could. The later movies in the series (2 through 4) were more typically upbeat, but it's important to note that in the original story, which was meant to stand alone (and was based very loosely on a stumblebum who fought Ali and survived many rounds) Rocky does not win.
 

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I´d go for "All quiet on the Western Front", very strong anti-war movie.
I would recommend the 1930´s version though ;)
 

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soren7550 said:
The first one that comes to mind is Black Hawk Down, but I'm not so sure if it counts for you.

The reason I'm not sure if it really counts because the movie dose say that they got their pilot back, and that a few years later the warlord did die, but still.[/spoiler]

Either way, go see Black Hawk Down. It's a very excellent movie.
The other day I was in line at the grocery store, and a couple "bros" were in line ahead of me. One of them said "Blackhawk Down is like, the best movie ever made." If he'd looked behind him, he'd have seen my eyebrows go so high they popped off my forehead. I mean don't get me wrong, it was a decent movie, and some of the military action was "realistic", but it's mostly hollywood-ized military action. The story... well there really isn't much of one. I'm not saying you can't like the movie, but I can think of a dozen military-themed movies off the top of my head that are better films than Blackhawk down... I wanted to yell at this frat guy HAVE YOU NOT SEEN APOCALYPSE NOW, SAVING PRIVATE RYAN, or PLATOON???

Anyways, yes go see Blackhawk Down, it's good. Thanks to the stupid leg-surgery scene though it falls into the category of military films I don't really like watching a second time though. I get really squeamish about that stuff. Saving Private Ryan has a few scenes like that for me as well... I usually change the channel when they're coming up.

ON TOPIC I'll nominate "The Road" movie as a film where the good guy (Viggo Mortensen) fails pretty horribly. Also a great post-apocalyptic film.
 

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Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid.

I guess it's KIND of a cliffhanger ending ... but not so much when you think about it.
 

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Spoiler-thread is spoilerish.

To avoid low-content bans, I'll mention one film. But now you shouldn't watch it, because spoilers: Buried
 

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Hmm... How about "Johnny Got His Gun?"
The "Good Guy" fails... to convince his doctors to give him the sweet release of death.
 

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Doogan said:
I am shocked to see that no one has mentioned the Denzel Washington film "Fallen"

If you have not seen it then shame on you!
Talking about Denzel
"Man on Fire" can be considered to fit in this category
Although protagonists succeeded on his task, the girl will have no family to return to
If I remember ending correctly...