What Are Some Good Movies Where The GOOD GUY Fails?*
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Well...you could say that Sweeney Todd fits the bill if only because the only characters you could really describe as 'good' are practically glorified extras, and while the antagonist is a villain through and through[footnote]In that he's a corrupt rapist judge who falsely imprisons the protagonist due to his lust for the man's wife now lusts for his ward (the child of the woman he raped and the man he'd falsely imprisoned)[/footnote], so too are the principle protagonists[footnote]Todd being a mass murderer, Lovett being complicit in the act and ultimately using it for her own profit[/footnote].
Less ambiguously, Steven King had a few tales like this, like Storm of the Century...
I also have to second the recommendations of Arlington Road. I'm actually a bit ashamed that I didn't think of it until I saw it mentioned.
Less ambiguously, Steven King had a few tales like this, like Storm of the Century...
I also have to second the recommendations of Arlington Road. I'm actually a bit ashamed that I didn't think of it until I saw it mentioned.
True, but this suggests that his superiors are evil (to our moral codes at least), and that "the good guy" has failed.Akratus said:
Surprised no one has mentioned Seeking a Friend for the End of the World. Unluckily if you know the movie, just saying that the end is depressing kind of spoils it, but I'll still put the ending in a spoiler.
Funny Games
Brazil. If you lived in the US when this came out, you got a happy ending. If you lived anywhere else or buy the Director's Cut edition, you get the real ending:
Grave of the Fireflies. I would recommend seeing the above movies--excluding Funny Games if you're sqeamish as it has torture in it--but not Grave of The Fireflies as it is pretty damn awful because of it's sad ending which is just tacked on it seems.
The meteor kills everyone even earlier than expected,
including everyone at Friendly's!
And they didn't even use "The Book of Love" at the end, despite showing the Magnetic Fields' album 69 love Songs.
Funny Games
The murderers give the family a certain amount of time (12 hours, I think) to stay alive, at the end of which any survivors get set free. So first they kill the dog, then they kill the kid in a game of "Eenie Meenie Miney Mo" with a rifle, then they kill the father because the mother couldn't say a prayer backwards, then the wife kills one of the killers, who is Deus Ex Machina'd back to life, and then in the very last minutes, they shove the wife off a boat.
Brazil. If you lived in the US when this came out, you got a happy ending. If you lived anywhere else or buy the Director's Cut edition, you get the real ending:
In the happy ending, the main character Sam is mistaken for a terrorist, but is saved and drives off to a happier life with his love interest Jill. In the happy ending, the credits roll, but in the real ending you see that Sam has been tortured so badly due to being mistaken as a terrorist that he just imagined all of that and is now stuck in that fantasy world.
Grave of the Fireflies. I would recommend seeing the above movies--excluding Funny Games if you're sqeamish as it has torture in it--but not Grave of The Fireflies as it is pretty damn awful because of it's sad ending which is just tacked on it seems.
The main character and his sister live in a cave after leaving their aunt's house to live on their own. At first it works out well, but by the end of the movie, the sister is malnourished and dies because her brother can't steal enough food. Turns out that even when the brother says he can't give his sister medical attention because he has no money, he's had money in the bank the entire time. And then he dies homeless because the movie conveniently forgets the money again.
And that's why the movie would have ended exactly the same if Indie just stayed home and did his job as the worst teacher ever. The Nazis would have gotten the box, died after opening it, and then the box would have ended up with the government. The only difference is that his students might have learned a bit before Indie just runs off again because someone told him about a pretty object.Noelveiga said:
You could seriously just ruin the students' entire semester by telling Indie that Jesus' Vase of Jesusy Stuff has been found, then give him vague clues. Maybe send him to a Jamba Juice and see if he tries to kill the owner and renovate their floor.
Do you accept anime?
If so,then Fate/Zero
It is no spoiler that 80% of the cast is dead by the end
If so,then Fate/Zero
It is no spoiler that 80% of the cast is dead by the end
and their sacrifices are in vain
What?
Absolutely no mention of Event Horizon?
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Or In the Mouth of Madness?
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Absolutely no mention of Event Horizon?
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Or In the Mouth of Madness?
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Hm. Would A Clockwork Orange count? The protagonist "wins" I suppose, but nothing good comes of it all, and the protagonist is hardly good anyway.
Clockwork Orange is a hard one to say. Alex certainly isn't a good guy, not by any means. He doesn't really "lose" either, since at the end his mental conditioning is taken away and he's able to live the life of crime and rapin' that he loved so much. I would say it doesn't count, but I would like to hear an argument on the contrary.klaynexas3 said:
I'd add Dawn of the Dead to this as well. The theatrical ending isn't as grim as the original, but "How much fuel do we have left?" "Not much." isn't very inspiring either.Grottnikk said:Night of the Living Dead. Boom, headshot