What Are Some Good Movies Where The GOOD GUY Fails?*

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starslasher

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Infernal Affairs. Although the ending was changed to a good ending for viewing in China, I think. Perhaps you could put The Departed in that list, even though the bad guys doesn't get away.
 

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soren7550 said:
Got another one that comes to mind, but I don't think this one counts either, and I don't recommend watching it anyway.

For the life of me, I can't remember what it's called, but it stars Gerald Butler and Jamie Foxx (least I think it was him, been a few years since I've seen it). Anyway, the plot is Butler's home is broken into by two dudes, and his wife and child are raped and murdered in front of him. The dudes are caught, but Foxx aiming to further his own career, lets the guy who did the raping and murdering get off with a light sentence, and the other is put on death row. Butler isn't happy about this, pointing out that he saw what the other dude did, but Foxx doesn't care, so Butler is out for revenge against not only the people that broke in and killed his family, but the people in the legal system that persecuted the wrong guy in spite of his testimony.

Now, you'd think that Butler is the hero of this movie, right? Wrong. In this asstarted film, it's Foxx who's the hero, and Butler who is the bad guy. Yeah, you're supposed to root for the guy that's the main reason why a rapist/murderer got off very light.
I remember that! It was Law-Abiding Citizen!

OT: by good guys, do you mean protagonists? Because the two aren't exactly the same thing
 

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Black Reaper said:
Do you accept anime?
If so,then Fate/Zero
It is no spoiler that 80% of the cast is dead by the end
and their sacrifices are in vain
Mm, I agree with this, and it makes it doubly painful in Fate/Stay Night because:

Shiro never finds out that Ilya is his 'sister' and that Kiritsugu never got to see his daughter grow up

and on a side note, Fate/Zero was just a downer anyway, and there was really no 'good guy' although there was that one scene with an aeroplane and a boat which made me tear up.

OT: Uhhh, movie where the bad guy wins...Uhhh...Metal Gear Solid 4? *ba dum tish*
 

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Twelve Monkeys. What I consider to be Bruce Willis' best work, and an excellent movie to boot.
 

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ToastiestZombie said:
klaynexas3 said:
Hm. Would A Clockwork Orange count? The protagonist "wins" I suppose, but nothing good comes of it all, and the protagonist is hardly good anyway.
Clockwork Orange is a hard one to say. Alex certainly isn't a good guy, not by any means. He doesn't really "lose" either, since at the end his mental conditioning is taken away and he's able to live the life of crime and rapin' that he loved so much. I would say it doesn't count, but I would like to hear an argument on the contrary.
An analysis [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YfRO4nEuC0] begs to differ. The article on his site goes into more depth.

A Clockwork Orange isn't an example where the good guy fails because there is no good 'guy', only a good intention to treat Alex which fails. Even so, the people with authority are hardly good guys.
 

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Evil Dead trilogy. I mean no matter what Ash does he's rewarded with either a marginal victory or completely screwed. Then again he does have his boomstick.

"Klattu Verata Nic*coughing*. There I said it."
 

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No Country for Old Men. I wont bother explaining just go watch it now.

Blablahb said:
Isn't Lock, Stock & Two Smoking Barrels a bit of a losing end? All the main characters get out of it emptyhanded.
Well they did end up with the rifles which were worth a hefty amount.
 

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icythepenguin said:
Evil Dead trilogy. I mean no matter what Ash does he's rewarded with either a marginal victory or completely screwed. Then again he does have his boomstick.

"Klattu Verata Nic*coughing*. There I said it."
Nah. I mean, ok yeah you have a point and Ash has a tendency to screw up but cmon. The guy loses his hand and his first thought is "hmm, that stump would look great with a chainsaw on it..." He is in my opinion, at the end of the day 100% solidified badass.
 

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Oldboy.

It's a foriegn film, but completely worth seeing. The guys spends the whole movie fighting for the truth, and when he finally gets it he wishes he never found it.

Mr.Cynic88 said:
Falling Down

Memento

Rocky

I'm using the term "good guy" for Falling Down and Memento broadly, but these are three great classic movies with non-traditional endings.
Eh I know your stretching it, but D-Fens was only a good guy in his own mind....
 

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I'm kind of ashamed for the Escapist that I'm the first to mention this:

Monty Python And The Search For The Holy Grail
 

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mortalsatsuma said:
icythepenguin said:
Evil Dead trilogy. I mean no matter what Ash does he's rewarded with either a marginal victory or completely screwed. Then again he does have his boomstick.

"Klattu Verata Nic*coughing*. There I said it."
Nah. I mean, ok yeah you have a point and Ash has a tendency to screw up but cmon. The guy loses his hand and his first thought is "hmm, that stump would look great with a chainsaw on it..." He is in my opinion, at the end of the day 100% solidified badass.
well yeah, Ash does some badass stuff like cutting off his hand with said chainsaw in the first place. But look at his track record. He's forced to dismember his friends and girlfriend, then gets possessed, locked in a cellar with a Deadite, possessed again, attacked by a tree and ends up lone survivor again, sent back to the dark ages, copied by the evil, raises the Army of Darkness because he can't remember three words, thinks he's won and goes back to his time only to be attacked by another Deadite. The man can't win but he is damned stylish and badass while trying to though.
 

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Blablahb said:
Little Gray said:
Well they did end up with the rifles which were worth a hefty amount.
And remember what was done with those in the closing scene of the movie? ^_^
They landed on the ledge and then the credits rolled while he was trying to answer his phone. You never actually see if they get tossed into the river or not.
 

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Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid.

I guess it's KIND of a cliffhanger ending ... but not so much when you think about it.
No dude they jumped off the cliff....


But seriously though, more people should watch this movie
 

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The Final Destination films. Yes, I like them, you got a problem with that?

Watchmen.
The main villain pulls off his plan perfectly, but because it?s genuinely for the greater good, the protagonists have to suck it up and not tell anyone the truth. It?s not a ?happy ending? in the slightest either, because one of the characters implies that the main villain only delayed nuclear war, rather than stopping it completely.

Man on Fire. Based on a true story too. That was seriously the first and only film that?s ever made me cry, although I think I was, like, 11 at the time.
The protagonist gets the girl back, but she has no father left to go back to, and the protagonist dies as the villain drives him away in a car.

Rocky, although I guess you could claim that it was technically a ?moral victory? for him, considering what happens in the sequel.

Oldboy. ?Nuff fucking said.

Carrie.
I?m not sure whether or not you could call the titular protagonist a ?good guy?, but either way, she dies as an indirect result of her schoolmates? bullying.

The Dark Knight (yes, I know, there was a sequel, but I?m not sure whether or not that was entirely planned anyway).
Because the Joker?s batshit insane, he doesn?t care whether or not Batman catches him and takes him to prison. He killed Batman?s love interest, destroyed Harvey Dent?s mind leading to Batman having to kill him ? technically breaking his ?no killing? rule ? and had to become a fugitive and disband his Batman identity.

The Machinist.
The protagonist forces away all of his friends due to his extreme paranoia, before realizing that the person supposedly making his life hell is in fact an extension of his own personality, brought about insomnia and guilt over a hit-and-run accident that happened before the events of the film. So he gives himself up to the police, and is carted away to a cell, where he finally sleeps. So the only happy ending for him is that, presumably, his insomnia ends, but he?s probably going to spend the majority of his life in a prison cell.

Casual Shinji said:
Seven

The good guy most certainly fails there, and how, and the bad guy wins.
Oh yeah, what a fucking twist. Jeez...
 

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Don't know if it was mentiond yet

Glory(A US civl war film)

Everyone dies trying to take Fort Wagner
 

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RandV80 said:
I'm kind of ashamed for the Escapist that I'm the first to mention this:

Monty Python And The Search For The Holy Grail
How did I not think of that? It's one of the very few movies I own. -_-