What are some misconceptions about your religion?

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DRADIS C0ntact

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Superhyperactiveman said:
Christianity-

We do not take a large chunk of the Bible literally. Unless we're fundamentalist, which most of us aren't, we accept a lot of it, especially the stuff in Genesis and Revelations, as being figurative: a metaphor. So, Creation, Noah's Ark, the Tower of Babel... most of us admit that things didn't exactly happen this way.

We do not reject evolution... Let me say that again... WE DO NOT REJECT EVOLUTION!!! Except for, again, the fundamentalists. What we reject is the idea that Humans evolved out of monkies. Because, this implies that humans are not spiritual beings created in the image of God, but that we're a random accident like all the other animals.
Okay...I don't even know how to word a response because I'm so taken aback...

This man is wrong. That's all that needs to be said.
 

Zacharine

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Superhyperactiveman said:
We do not reject evolution... Let me say that again... WE DO NOT REJECT EVOLUTION!!! Except for, again, the fundamentalists. What we reject is the idea that Humans evolved out of monkies.
And rightfully so, except for the wrong reasons.

Humans and monkeys evolved from a common ancestry. All primates that are not prosimians (lemurs and tarsiers) or apes, are monkeys. Monkeys are therefore a separate offshoot of primates, while apes are another offshoot. The seperation happened at infraorder Simiiformes (or Simians), when New world monkeys (Platyrrhini) and Old world Monkeys (Catarrhini) evolved separately. Humans are part of the superfamily Hominoidea (unlike Old world Monkeys, who are Cercopithecoidea). Hominoidea includes gibbons and great apes.

The classification of humans, according to Linnean system, is

Kingdom: Animalia
Phylum: Chordata
Subphylum: Vertebrata
Class: Mammalia
Subclass: Theria
Infraclass: Eutheria
Order: Primates
Suborder: Anthropoidea
Superfamily: Hominoidea (the most recent ancestry with gibbons)
Family: Hominidae
Genus: Homo
Species: sapiens

To say humans evolved from monkeys is like saying rats evolved from cats. There is a common ancestry far enough back (both are mammals for example, and belong to subclass Theria but seperate after infraclass Eutheria), but no direct relation between the two groups.
 

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SakSak said:
That people think that atheism

a) is a religion, as in a "particular system of faith and worship." (COED 11th ed.)

b)can only be a positive statement of belief

c)is worshipping Darwin

d)is being angry and rebellious at (or ignorant of) 'god'.

e)amoral or immoral by definition.

That's about it.

Oh, and about humans evolving from monkeys? This is a gross misunderstanding.

No, humans and monkeys evolved from a common ancestry. All primates that are not prosimians (lemurs and tarsiers) or apes, are monkeys. Monkeys are therefore a separate offshoot of primates, while apes are another offshoot. The seperation happened at infraorder Simiiformes (or Simians), when New world monkeys (Platyrrhini) and Old world Monkeys (Catarrhini) evolved separately. Humans are part of the superfamily Hominoidea (unlike Old world Monkeys, who are Cercopithecoidea). Hominoidea includes gibbons and great apes.

The classification is

Kingdom: Animalia
Phylum: Chordata
Subphylum: Vertebrata
Class: Mammalia
Subclass: Theria
Infraclass: Eutheria
Order: Primates
Suborder: Anthropoidea
Superfamily: Hominoidea (the most recent ancestry with gibbons)
Family: Hominidae
Genus: Homo
Species: sapiens

To say humans evolved from monkeys is like saying rats evolved from cats. There is a common ancestry far enough back (both are mammals for example, and belong to subclass Theria but seperate after infraclass Eutheria), but no direct relation between the two groups.
Pretty much what I was going to say word for word. Saved me some typing there. Thank you.

So /seconded.
 

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Hexadecimal said:
I'm a Muslim. And God knows how many misconceptions people hold against us, seriously.

Let's start with the suicide bomber notion. I know that most of the people here aren't morons and therefore understand that most of the Muslim population believes that strapping a bomb to yourself and running into a crowd is extreme and pretty un-Muslim.

Allah tells us to protect human life and take good care of it, including our own. It's a gift from God that I'm alive today. This is why we are not permitted to drink or eat pork, because the Quran dictates that these things are bad for your body. Suicide bombers are effectively destroying this rule by killing themselves in order to 'cleanse' the world of 'heretics'.

Um. Feel free to ask questions? I don't know how these things go.
Dude, I have an exam on Studies of Religion in five weeks, I could totally use your help!

1: How do young Muslims undertake the Hajj? Have you been saving for it?

2: Salman Rushdie: Did he deserve what he got even though he was an epic literary troll?

3: What is the policy in Islam on getting rid of that awful female circumcision? I hear it's just a cultural practice completely unrelated to Islam that got absorbed into the culture wrongly.

Hope you can answer my questions, I've tried to be the least assumption making as possible.
 

Zacharine

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Actually, turn out I might very well be wrong. I got a PM, sender of which shall remain anonymous, linking me this youtube video.


Video made by AronRa

I checked it out and.... On a first look and some quick research I found no factual mistakes. I must look into this further, but looks like I indeed was wrong. This is what you get for not studying biology in almost 8 years.

Humans ARE decendents of monkeys. If fact, we can still be classified as monkeys, apes being a subset.

My apologies to Superhyperactiveman for giving false information.
 

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As a polytheist druid people often hold the assumption that we are one of two people;

1) Someone who believes in sacrificing virgins on altars and partaking in ungodly rituals.
2) Someone who goes around practising magic spells with large 'cult' groups.

These are gross misconceptions. The truth is that while druid sects are around you do not have to be a member to be a druid, what it means to follow druidism differs from person to person and while some people choose to hold rituals and practise 'spells' you can choose to practise alone in meditation if you prefer. As a polytheist I have many 'gods' but not in the sense of Christian god, druidic gods can come from local landmarks and features and are more representative of the power and beauty of nature in an area that a divine being.
 

Nieroshai

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The biggest modern religious prejudice IMO is that fundamental Christians are insane. Also, to throw this ut there, MICROevolution has been unshakingly proven(breeds of dogs, birds, etc., like Darwin originally observed), but MACROevolution is a theory that the fossil record supports only inasmuch as the belief that if two things LOOK similar they HAD to come from the same lineage. Also, continuing my slightly OT rant, there was an experiment to recreate the primordial conditions that created the first crude proteins that may have been the start of life. They did succeed in creating a protein compound. That compound was formaldehyde, a preservative toxin that KILLS microorganisms.
 

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Christianity: We do not hate gays. We are not all about rules. We do not want to see anyone in Hell ever.
 

Chipperz

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Eric_Autopsy said:
That god excists.
OK, what religion are you that a common misconception of it is that god exists? I'd guess... Bhuddist? Seeing as I BELIEVE they are the only religion with any kind of divine figure?

Actually, there's a question - are there any other religions that don't have a divine figure? I'll admit I don't know much about Taoism, so that might not have one...
 

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GoliathJT said:
Satanism-

We don't worship Satan.
Or anything for that matter.
Because Satanism is basically like FSMism, right? A parody of organized religion? Just making sure my memory is correct.
 

Zacharine

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Nieroshai said:
GoliathJT said:
Satanism-

We don't worship Satan.
Or anything for that matter.
Because Satanism is basically like FSMism, right? A parody of organized religion? Just making sure my memory is correct.
I thought Satanism is a bit like self-empowerement: They worship nothing, because humans are the highest and strongest there is. But there are certain tenents tha most follow, if memory serves. These are simply not 'divine' tenents or commandments.

I might be wrong though.

Perhaps Goliath would like to clarify this?
 

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MaxTheReaper said:
To be a religion, or hell, even a cult, atheists would have to have more in common than "does not believe in higher power."
Exactly.

That's what I meant when I said "we are a very diverse group".
There are no particular rules to being an atheist beyond the lack of belief in gods.
Buddhists are considered atheists. Or people who only believe in luck or fate. Some believe in a kind of lifeforce that is inherent to all things (which can be considered both pantheistic and atheistic at the same time). Some might believe in ghosts.
And others, well, they believe in nothing supernatural at all.
Saying that not believing in gods is enough to define a coherent group (which a religion more or less would be - admittedly, there's a big variety within such groups as well) is pretty stupid when everything else, every other aspect of their beliefs, faith and personal convictions, still vary from person to person.
 

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I'm agnostic, but that doesn't mean I believe in the big bang. As far as i'm concerned, something can't create everything from nothing. Zero plus one does not equal infinity.
 

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Arsen said:
Christianity.

That we hate those we disagree with.
That we push our religions on others. I became a Christian in a time when I was in perfect solitude and discovered it through reading and listening to life, my experiences, and the final acknowledgement of the human soul.
We are uneducated if we don't accept a common theory most who are faithless agree with.
We see life in black and white.
That our history speaks of murder and various evils (most often hand picked by those who oppose the belief on "that" basis)...despite this being a human nature in many forms.
That the Bible had been changed to the point of becoming complete and utter nonsense.

A big one is this...that we have a lesser intelligence level than many others.
This x infinity.