What Defines a True man ?

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ActionDan

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the_bearpelt said:
ActionDan said:
A Man is someone who knows how to act with Chivalry, and being a Gentleman, but when the time calls for it, defend anything and anyone you love. Anyone who treats women like a walking sex toy, or their own human punching bag should be eliminated.
I like how you think. The best parts of old-fashioned social ideology.
In my opinion, that is how every man should be. If they're not, then they cannot call themselves a Man.
 

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UNKNOWNINCOGNITO said:
I'm not talking machoism here or dick size, that's just a little boys fantasy. I'm talking qualities that make a true man such as dignity and the ability to make hard decisions for a greater good or cause.

In your Opinion. What Makes a True Man ?
Its only my opinion but I think what makes someone a man is;

1. Accepting your faults and mistakes (try to learn from them).
2. Dealing with the hand that you have been given.
3. Be honest in all your contracts.
4. Give credit and respect where it is due.

Those are my 4 rules to being a man. After that its all preferance and bravado.
 

Axeli

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I don't know. What defines a true woman? Ooh, now it's a sexists question! Seriously, all the non-sexists and personality based answers here define a decent, adult, human being. Not maleness.
 

LaBambaMan

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Why does it matter what makes someone a "true man"? Isn't the important question you should be asking be "what defines a true human"?
 

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LaBambaMan said:
Why does it matter what makes someone a "true man"? Isn't the important question you should be asking be "what defines a true human"?
Why should it matter what makes somebeing a "true ideal human"? Isn't the important question you should be asking be "What are you, how do you want to be, and (how) can you get there efficiently?".
 

TheEvilCheese

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(Be a man)
We must be swift as
the coursing river
(Be a man)
With all the force
of a great typhoon
(Be a man)
With all the strength
of a raging fire
Mysterious as the
dark side of the moon

*listens to that song on a loop*
 

TerribleAssassin

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A true man doesn't love a million girls.
He loves one girl a million ways.

He should also be kind and honest.

And have a tickletackle (cookie for reference)
 

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messy said:
Not technically true since parts of the Y chromosome can be recombined and passed onto a X chromosome so an individual could, assuming they get the correct parts from the Y chromosome, could have two XX chromosomes in structure but still develop male gentiles. I'm not an expert but its likely that such a male would have more female characteristics then a "true male" as it were such as having pubic hair in a similar shape to that found on females.
Not to mention that one can have a female brain and a male body.

The concept of being a "real man" or woman, for that matter, is increasingly irrelevant, a vestigial and artificial enforcement.
 

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Big muscles, a buxom wench and a job that involves smashing heavy things with heavier things.
 

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Zachary Amaranth said:
messy said:
Not technically true since parts of the Y chromosome can be recombined and passed onto a X chromosome so an individual could, assuming they get the correct parts from the Y chromosome, could have two XX chromosomes in structure but still develop male gentiles. I'm not an expert but its likely that such a male would have more female characteristics then a "true male" as it were such as having pubic hair in a similar shape to that found on females.
Not to mention that one can have a female brain and a male body.

The concept of being a "real man" or woman, for that matter, is increasingly irrelevant, a vestigial and artificial enforcement.
Ah really? I didn't know of this one, my knowledge of sex determination is a bit limited to the chromosome cross-overs. May I ask, if you know, how does this occur?
 

Something Amyss

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messy said:
Ah really? I didn't know of this one, my knowledge of sex determination is a bit limited to the chromosome cross-overs. May I ask, if you know, how does this occur?
What I've described is basically the definition of a transsexual, and such an instance happens because of changes in hormone development in the womb. It's thus possible for the brain and body to get separate hormonal signals (Or for one to get none and go "default").

The result is wiring that for all intents and purposes is different from the body.

Studies on homosexuals' brains post mortem also indicates that gays tend to have brains with slightly more femminized or masculine traits than the heterosexual equivalent. This is sort of an aside, but it does demonstrate a sort of deviation from the norm as it were.

I'm biologically male and wired like a female, for example. Were they to examine my brain, it would likely be more in line with a woman's than a man's, save possibly for size (large skull). A lot of people don't get this, because they don't really get that men and woman have brains that actually look different (in terms of activity...It's not like they're pink for girls and blue for boys), but we do have a gender identity wired into us. It's just not particularly obvious because most people are wired appropriately for their bodies.

But I mean, I doubt I could ever be a "true man" in any sense except chromosomal. The flip side is, I wouldn't really want to be, either.
 

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Zachary Amaranth said:
A lot of people don't get this, because they don't really get that men and woman have brains that actually look different (in terms of activity...It's not like they're pink for girls and blue for boys), but we do have a gender identity wired into us. It's just not particularly obvious because most people are wired appropriately for their bodies.
Careful with your conclusions there. What commonly is called "gender" is much more than you measured. An additional problem is that i know of no study that analyzed the ability of self-programming. They basically take random people that already show certain behaviour, and then look at brain patterns.

What such research tells you, is that certain behaviour in this culture often comes together with certain brain activity. "Cause" and "development" however wasn't measured, and thus you have no data about that, unless you believe in the dualistic axiom, that the mind is just an effect of the body cause (which by the way has been disproven long ago).

P.S.: I'm aware that you were only talking about choice of sexual partner. "Gender" however is a category for more than just that, and therefore statements like "we do have a gender identity wired into us" can be highly misleading and dangerous.