What Defines a True man ?

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EatPieYes

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What a man is? A miserable pile of secrets! (cookie for reference)

Oh, if I can contribute to the thread in any way? Nah...
 

messy

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Zachary Amaranth said:
messy said:
Ah really? I didn't know of this one, my knowledge of sex determination is a bit limited to the chromosome cross-overs. May I ask, if you know, how does this occur?
What I've described is basically the definition of a transsexual, and such an instance happens because of changes in hormone development in the womb. It's thus possible for the brain and body to get separate hormonal signals (Or for one to get none and go "default").

The result is wiring that for all intents and purposes is different from the body.

Studies on homosexuals' brains post mortem also indicates that gays tend to have brains with slightly more femminized or masculine traits than the heterosexual equivalent. This is sort of an aside, but it does demonstrate a sort of deviation from the norm as it were.

I'm biologically male and wired like a female, for example. Were they to examine my brain, it would likely be more in line with a woman's than a man's, save possibly for size (large skull). A lot of people don't get this, because they don't really get that men and woman have brains that actually look different (in terms of activity...It's not like they're pink for girls and blue for boys), but we do have a gender identity wired into us. It's just not particularly obvious because most people are wired appropriately for their bodies.

But I mean, I doubt I could ever be a "true man" in any sense except chromosomal. The flip side is, I wouldn't really want to be, either.
Thank you for that
 

Treeinthewoods

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A real man appears in Old Spice commercials...

Joking aside, to me a man is someone who faces his responsibilities head on and thrives. Whatever you want to do, do it well and try not to whine too much.

Side note - I kind of agree with Chris Rock when it comes to hitting women. I won't hit a woman, but I might shake the hell out of her if she tries to take a swing at me.
 

Jack_Uzi

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There is no such thing as a true man. Only true people, trying to be honest regardless of the circomstances while knowing the consequences aren't always in their favor when truth is told.
That needs balls, regardless of gender.
 

Duskwaith

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To be a true man.

Able to admit and accept defeat, gracious in winning and a gent to all he meets regardless of creed, sex or colour and in the words of confucius: To know what is right and not do it is the worst cowardice.
 

hurfdurp

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That guy from the movie Good Dick, which surprisingly is not pornography. Be like him.

"In Good Dick the man?s power has nothing to do with his physical strength, his appearance or his social status. He is masculine in a way that is genuine; this masculinity stems from his lack of chauvinism. His chivalry is his depth of kindness."
 

Auron225

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Haha =) I would say stuff like "Y Chromosone", but I see the 'true' discussion your trying to spark ;)

For me, I'd say most of the Gentleman qualities would make a true man - over brawn or anything else like that any day! The ability to be understanding is a big part of it, I think anyway.
 

Korimyr the Rat

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From Mussolini and Gentile's Doctrine of Fascism [http://www.worldfuturefund.org/wffmaster/Reading/Germany/mussolini.htm]: "... man is man only by virtue of the spiritual process to which he contributes as a member of the family, the social group, the nation..."

Confucius believed that the "perfect man"-- the ideal to which all men should strive-- was a combination of saint, scholar, and gentleman. He cultivated moral virtue in himself and encouraged it in everyone else around him. He showed respect for his superiors, his peers, and his subordinates. He paid homage to his elder relatives and to his deceased ancestors before him.

I would add to this that a real man defends what is his. He defends his family, his home, and his homeland. He defends his values, and his tastes, and his reputation.
 

KaosuHamoni

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The ability to show emotions openly, but not let them effect judgement.
The ability to respect a woman, to see them as people and, as far as relationships are concerned, to love them for what they are, not hating them for what they arn't, and never see the as objects or abuse them.
 

MGlBlaze

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There are no 'true' men. Those that claim to be 'true' men themselves are more than likely douchebags that barely qualify as human. There are only people who act the way they think they should; some get things right, some get things wrong.

This is my policy. It can apply to both men and women, though;
"Treat those around you with respect, but within reason act as though they will do the wrong thing in a given situation"
For example, don't be a dick to someone (especially if you've never met them before), and if an argument starts then never expect the other person to be the one to stop it and just walk away.

That, and don't buy things that 'society' says is wrong but isn't. For instance, showing emotion doesn't make anyone weak (as opposed to people who think that emotion is a sign of weakness).

King_Burger said:
ActionDan said:
A Man is someone who knows how to act with Chivalry, and being a Gentleman, but when the time calls for it, defend anything and anyone you love. Anyone who treats women like a walking sex toy, or their own human punching bag should be eliminated.
This

Also I do not see why men shouldnt be allowed to hit women. I aint talking about domestic violence that is just wrong and a horrible thing.

However if a women would just started beating up a man in public isnt the man allowed to defend himself? Should he just lie down and weep?
This is a fairly controversial subject. I subscribe to the 'if they dish it out, they have no right to be surprised when they have to take it' approach. Hitting anyone for no good reason (and there are very few 'good' reasons), regardless of sex or gender, is wrong. By that extension, striking someone in defence of yourself or those around you (as long as you do not go over-the-top; equal or less-than force should be used. For example, if someone punches you then you shouldn't pull a knife or something. Punching them back is totally fine though, as is simply restraining them.) is perfectly fine; again, regardless of sex or gender.
 

TheRundownRabbit

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Men are men, women are women, but what makes a true man, is how he treats others. A true man treats others with respect and kindness not hostility, his ability to ignore those who do wrong to him. Remember, treat others with equality, you don't have to like em, but their human beings just like you and me.
 

the_bearpelt

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ActionDan said:
the_bearpelt said:
ActionDan said:
A Man is someone who knows how to act with Chivalry, and being a Gentleman, but when the time calls for it, defend anything and anyone you love. Anyone who treats women like a walking sex toy, or their own human punching bag should be eliminated.
I like how you think. The best parts of old-fashioned social ideology.
In my opinion, that is how every man should be. If they're not, then they cannot call themselves a Man.
Most certainly. Sadly, many men are missing this quality. Many women too, actually.
 

Something Amyss

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messy said:
Thank you for that
I aim to please.

Lyx said:
Careful with your conclusions there. What commonly is called "gender" is much more than you measured.
Because most measures of gender are irrelevant. Which, you know, was my whole point in the first place. Even talking purely bological constraints, we are talking about them as they pertain to the social being and societal impact.