I didn't really notice or care about the the towers collapsing, mabye it was something to do with me being 7 and in a different country. Children tend not to care about important world events
What did 9/11 do to you kids? (Read beyond thread title and relate to the OP or so help me)
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I was a sophomore in college when 9/11 occurred. Looking at the replies makes me feel old, slightly indignant and perhaps even little jealous. God bless the oblivious stupidity of children I suppose.
Well, 3000 people died, not that it was any of my concern, people die needlessly every single day. Still made that day suck, and those after weren't the same.
Being a Swede, the aftermath was probably the only downside. Taking care of all the crap the US started (like the rest of the world had to, nothing unusual about that). If the 90's was two steps forward, 00's have been one step backwards in pretty much every area besides technology.
Here in Europe, the rightwing movement got a swing because of scaremongering (it feeds itself, after all). Tolerance got bushwacked by religious fundamentalists, the economy is shit, the environment is fucked, racism is on the rise.
It's like we're back in the %"#%ing 80's again. If someone woke me up and said Reagan was shot, I wouldn't bat an eyelash.
Being a Swede, the aftermath was probably the only downside. Taking care of all the crap the US started (like the rest of the world had to, nothing unusual about that). If the 90's was two steps forward, 00's have been one step backwards in pretty much every area besides technology.
Here in Europe, the rightwing movement got a swing because of scaremongering (it feeds itself, after all). Tolerance got bushwacked by religious fundamentalists, the economy is shit, the environment is fucked, racism is on the rise.
It's like we're back in the %"#%ing 80's again. If someone woke me up and said Reagan was shot, I wouldn't bat an eyelash.
arggh, I can relate to that, Cheese TV was the only reason I got up that early in the morning, yet they always chose to interrupt that show to put boring crap like golf or the news on instead.W8NKA said:
Let me put it in perspective.
The Twin Towers were a pair of buildings that I hadn't even heard of until 9/11.
I was a ten year old living in Western Australia, who loved Pokemon and Dragon Ball Z.
Where do you think my priorities are going to be.
the only time where I actually cared about what happened, was when the Olympic swimmer Ian Thorpe said that the only reason he was still alive was due to him leaving his camera in his hotel room and he returned to retrieve it.
ok im almost required to ask what "crap" did your country have to clean up? Im dam sure there wernt any swedes in iraq or afganistan till the US had already taken the the capital of both countries, but dont feel bad it wasnt just your country that gave us the finger it was the ENTIRE United Nations with one or two exceptions (my thanks to the Brits who have had our backs since WW1) you hate us when you dont need us then love us when you do i say next time someone goes berzerk in erope we the US should only help the Brits since their the only ones who ACUALY help us when their asses dont need saveing.Frenger said:
side note: yes i know your country was never conquerd before but guess what? It so could be now due to you mountains not being as big of an obstical now
EDIT: i forgot that the aussis helped us alot too
o/ecoho said:ok im almost required to ask what "crap" did your country have to clean up? Im dam sure there wernt any swedes in iraq or afganistan till the US had already taken the the capital of both countries, but dont feel bad it wasnt just your country that gave us the finger it was the ENTIRE United Nations with one or two exceptions (my thanks to the Brits who have had our backs since WW1) you hate us when you dont need us then love us when you do i say next time someone goes berzerk in erope we the US should only help the Brits since their the only ones who ACUALY help us when their asses dont need saveing.Frenger said:
side note: yes i know your country was never conquerd before but guess what? It so could be now due to you mountains not being as big of an obstical now
EDIT: i forgot that the aussis helped us alot too
Södertälje says hello. Taking in more Iraqi refugees than the US and Canada combined, and that's a city of 60.000 people, mind you.
I'm not saying that us "Swedes" are victims(or any other country that objected to the actions taken), but we do see when things are not going your way. And the war in Afgahnistan and Iraq has certainly not been a success. Could it have been if we were involved? Probably not, since the invasion wasn't planned, and no long-term goal seemed to be in place either. It was just handled so badly from the start, and the wrong people doing the wrong things at the wrong time. Everyone who objected and refused to help saw why this was a bad idea. But no one could even in their wildest dreams guess it would turn out even worse.
And yeah, there are Swedish soldiers(And not under UN flag this time. Not sure why, honestly, but we're "peacekeeping" anyway, I suppose) in Afgahnistan.
Anyway, there you have my perspective of these events, and I think we should leave it at that. As you said yours already.
I was around 7 years old when I saw the burning towers on TV while we were celebrating my aunt's birthday in our apartment in Hong Kong. After that, I started drawing airplanes and helicopters crashing into buildings more often. I remembered my Grandma taking me back to my family's apartment 2-3 months after 9/11 when I saw a muslim man wearing a turban, and I exclaimed in Chinese about how he looked like Osama Bin Laden. My Grandma laughed.
Now I remembered that little moment, I really regret saying that, even though there's a chance that the man never understood me. This whole event caused so much prejudice to be spread across the media and infecting our minds. It's a sad time we live in.
Now I remembered that little moment, I really regret saying that, even though there's a chance that the man never understood me. This whole event caused so much prejudice to be spread across the media and infecting our minds. It's a sad time we live in.
I am the person that you speak of that grew up during a "bleak hour". I was 13 when 9/11 rolled around and was in the middle of my junior year in college when this economic crash happened. In other words, it is my generation that is immediately impacted by the present world due to a difficult job market and news that has been bleak and depressing for years.
What effect has that had on me? I have no hope for the future, believe that by the time i'm dead with world will be in a much worse shape (for my country and in general) than it was when I was born (1987), and chances are I will be simmering with rage the entire time because there is nothing I can do about it. This is all before I think about my own personal life and history during the 2000's decade, which was also bleak and destructive, but I probably emerged from it a much stronger person.
I'm 22 and feel like my life is already screwed thanks to the work of some short-sighted jerks who overindulged and ended up screwing those who would come after them.
I'm probably going to be pissed off/depressed for the rest of my life.
What effect has that had on me? I have no hope for the future, believe that by the time i'm dead with world will be in a much worse shape (for my country and in general) than it was when I was born (1987), and chances are I will be simmering with rage the entire time because there is nothing I can do about it. This is all before I think about my own personal life and history during the 2000's decade, which was also bleak and destructive, but I probably emerged from it a much stronger person.
I'm 22 and feel like my life is already screwed thanks to the work of some short-sighted jerks who overindulged and ended up screwing those who would come after them.
I'm probably going to be pissed off/depressed for the rest of my life.
I didn't notice much different. As a young kid when the bombing happened (I was in kindergarten at the time), I didn't really have a frame of reference. Sure, I'll complain about airport security, about the racial profiling, but I've never really known any different. This is just how the world is to me.
9/11 was...a T.V Spectacle that will forever be burned into the American flashbulb-memory. And the London bombings didnt affect me because I'm in Manchester. All it's done is scare everyone stupid, thus increasing security everywhere ( primarily airports ofcourse ). Aswell as lure us into an un-winnable war in the east, That's supposedly about nukes, but also about oil and also about enforcing democracy or some other crap..bah, I dont know. I'm just a stupid kid.
At the time I lived in Russia. It is funny really. Back then I was a 3rd grader and I knew nothing about it. Out of the blue, my teacher made the whole class stand and have a minute of silence. I was completely clueless. I still was until 2006.
Oh thousands of people died BIG WHOOP. A couple of tens of years ago we could have said Millions had died. Why the harsher reaction? BECAUSE THEY ARE AMERICANS! You know. The people with a big media that can be there, film it, broadcast it to every channel across the globe in just below lets say.. 5 Minutes.
Just after getting that out. We live in one of the most peacefull times there have ever been in the history of mankind, if our children cant grow safely up in that where can they grow up? We dont have the problem of people dying in millions from war, we have overpopulation. Heck we are even so well done ourselves that we can now look to the problems of others, like the country's one thousand times poorer than us. I Would have said africa but as a whole country they are quite rich on raw materials, quite sad the white man had to take it all eh? But its not our fault. They were doomed already at the romans.
Denmark's send some tens of thousand to the east. About 35 has died. Most of them probably from roadside bombs which means that they arent dying from the war they are dying for just being there. So i cant see the big reason NOT to pull out.
Still. For just about a day we got a taste of american media. Wanting to brainwash you and tell you about the impending danger that MAY kill you, and MAY bring down the world tomorrow. TODAY!
Its hard to believe theres even people who want to believe that Bush was better than Obama. No matter which side you are politically on. No one can be worse without trying at least.
Just after getting that out. We live in one of the most peacefull times there have ever been in the history of mankind, if our children cant grow safely up in that where can they grow up? We dont have the problem of people dying in millions from war, we have overpopulation. Heck we are even so well done ourselves that we can now look to the problems of others, like the country's one thousand times poorer than us. I Would have said africa but as a whole country they are quite rich on raw materials, quite sad the white man had to take it all eh? But its not our fault. They were doomed already at the romans.
Denmark's send some tens of thousand to the east. About 35 has died. Most of them probably from roadside bombs which means that they arent dying from the war they are dying for just being there. So i cant see the big reason NOT to pull out.
Still. For just about a day we got a taste of american media. Wanting to brainwash you and tell you about the impending danger that MAY kill you, and MAY bring down the world tomorrow. TODAY!
Its hard to believe theres even people who want to believe that Bush was better than Obama. No matter which side you are politically on. No one can be worse without trying at least.
My parents are Scottish Liberals, they summed it up quite nicely to me - 'Crazy conservatives afraid of nothing.'
Being British and working class, I'm surrounded by a bunch of skin-heads who think that every immigrant from Pakistan is a 'Mad terrorist from Gaza'. L2Geography.
Being British and working class, I'm surrounded by a bunch of skin-heads who think that every immigrant from Pakistan is a 'Mad terrorist from Gaza'. L2Geography.
Nikolaz72 said:
ok ill try to be objective while explaining this if we pull out there are 3 things that could happen
1) the best outcome: the iraqis get a new govrnment that has some control over its people.
2)middle ground: we end up with another sadam
3)wost possible case: the country is taken over by the taliban or another extreemist group who then use it as a base to launch attacks on EVERYONE in the west. They may hate the US the most but they hate every western country.
In truth i think your right we should pull everyone out then we can correct our mistake and just nuke the basterds the next time were attacked then we wont have to spend 9 years hearing other people ***** about it. I would like to make this clear i have no problem with countrys staying out of conflicts they dont suport but when you make that choice you have no right to coment on how it was waged.
BTW bush was better then obama he spent maybe HALF of what obama spent in 8 years, and kept our ecconimy pretty stable. Bush gets alot of bad press because thats the way he was portyed in the media, were as obama has the support of most of the media but even that cant help him.....