What did I just watch?

[viranimus]

After being practically begged to death, and having my ticket paid for I got suckered into watching a 1$ showing of The Avengers.

It really leaves me with one question. How exactly was this film really any different/more entertaining than any of the Michael Bay Transformers films?

Seriously, I didnt even pay for the ticket and I wanted the money back.

So why exactly is one lauded as the best film of the year, and the other is condemned to be the biggest piece of cinematic trash that has ever existed when really all they both are is an entirely too long train of special effects, explosions and tired practically non existent narrative? Where is that dividing line?

 

[Goofguy]

Easy, The Avengers didn't have Shia Labeouf.

 

[Jarek Mace]

I completely and utterly agree, although it probably gets credit due to being a big wank-fest for Marvel fans.

 

[SomeLameStuff]

Actual decent to good acting.

 

[FalloutJack]

Hmmm, well let's put it together, shall we?

Even for a non-comic-fan, someone who never read about ONE of these guys or saw one single cartoon, the issue is able to be entered. They put together individual tellings of each hero and, in fact, the MacGuffin that was so integral to the plot. You therefore got to see their backgrounds and lead-up to the point in which the movie now progresses with. In short, THEY TOLD A STORY and they did it pretty well. It was portrayed well, if sometimes humorously, and was entertaining.

What I wanna know is this: Are you seriously so cheap and critical of a movie which, even if a person cannot follow the plot, still contains assloads of action and funny...that you actually wanted your one stinking dollar back? Ugh, for shame... Your one dollar just died in vain, didn't it? You know what? I'm done with you. If I keep going, I'll just up saying some rotten things that would offend thine dainty ears. Later!

 

[FalloutJack]

Are you seriously so cheap and critical of a movie which, even if a person cannot follow the plot, still contains assloads of action and funny...that you actually wanted your one stinking dollar back?

Worse, it's not even his dollar to begin with.

Hell, it was worth the ten dollars I paid just to see Hulk punch Iron Man.

Edit:

You should have heard what he was saying about Fallout over in Gaming. He must be allergic to fun.

That and Hulk pounding Loki and Stark implying performance anxiety on Loki and simply because Sam Jackson was in it and...

 

[Elementary - Dear Watson]

I love Transformers and The Avengers... so I was quids in really...

To be honest, I don't get why the 3rd Transformers movie was so hated upon! I found it pretty entertaining on a CGI front... and the acting wasn't that bad... Although that is what The Avengers does a lot better.

Character chemistry, and better dialogue. Also, the characters now all have back stories, so a lot more focus was put into their interactions, and not so much on who they were as people...!

Transformers, most characters just felt like the comic relief slots, and those that wern't, were just suped up action heroes, or bimbo's... but that was fine! The film was fun and enjoyable to watch! Also, Dat transforming noise!

 

[repeating integers]

The difference was that The Avengers had actual characters you actually cared about. Also, the action/explosion scenes were good.

 

[CleverNickname]

Yeah, I'm a big defender of dumb action flicks, I actually like the first two Transformers', (third one was boring as all hell though) AND The Avengers wasn't the best movie I've ever seen (I liked Thor better), but there is a world of difference between Avengers and Transformers. Like, almost objectively so. Avengers is just plain better.

Doesn't mean everything has to love it equally, but I'll never understand how people keep saying "I didn't like it, why does everyone else?". You should stop at "I didn't like it". Cuz that's your answer.

Not saying nobody should discuss anything ever, but what discussion value can there possibly be when someone is comparing a good movie... to Transformers.

Why wasn't Avengers as good as Thor? Oh wait, I know. Less Thor

 

[Eclipse Dragon]

I felt I needed to see the Avengers, just because of the sheer effort that went into making the movie happen.

Marvel made FOUR high budget movies (The Hulk, Ironman 2, Thor, Captain America) just to promote this one,
even if the whole idea was to make money, that goal could have been accomplished in a much more half-assed way.
The four movies setting the stage for the Avengers were decent on their own.
The Avengers was icing on the cake, the result Marvel had been working so hard to get to.

No one else to my knowledge has ever really done this.

 

[DoPo]

Even for a non-comic-fan, someone who never read about ONE of these guys or saw one single cartoon, the issue is able to be entered. They put together individual tellings of each hero and, in fact, the MacGuffin that was so integral to the plot. You therefore got to see their backgrounds and lead-up to the point in which the movie now progresses with. In short, THEY TOLD A STORY and they did it pretty well. It was portrayed well, if sometimes humorously, and was entertaining.

Well, I went to see the movie with a friend of mine who didn't know who the superheroes were. She still didn't at the end of it. I wouldn't say they made a very good job explaining them.

 

[Zack Alklazaris]

Because it wasn't trying to be over serious and had an actual comic book dork directing it.

 

[Jiffex]

Even for a non-comic-fan, someone who never read about ONE of these guys or saw one single cartoon, the issue is able to be entered. They put together individual tellings of each hero and, in fact, the MacGuffin that was so integral to the plot. You therefore got to see their backgrounds and lead-up to the point in which the movie now progresses with. In short, THEY TOLD A STORY and they did it pretty well. It was portrayed well, if sometimes humorously, and was entertaining.

Well, I went to see the movie with a friend of mine who didn't know who the superheroes were. She still didn't at the end of it. I wouldn't say they made a very good job explaining them.

That's because the individual stories were told in their own films. I'm sure if they spent extra time explaining them you would complain about them wasting time about it. I imagine it would be similar to watching only the 3rd Matrix movie and complaining about not having the characters explained properly.

 

[Jiffex]

Are you seriously so cheap and critical of a movie which, even if a person cannot follow the plot, still contains assloads of action and funny...that you actually wanted your one stinking dollar back?

Worse, it's not even his dollar to begin with.

Hell, it was worth the ten dollars I paid just to see Hulk punch Iron Man.

Edit:

You should have heard what he was saying about Fallout over in Gaming. He must be allergic to fun.

That and Hulk pounding Loki and Stark implying performance anxiety on Loki and simply because Sam Jackson was in it and...

Not to mention "Does mother know you weareth her drapes?" Had everyone laughing every time I saw it.

 

[Trippy Turtle]

It was fun to watch and everything I want in a movie. If I wanted a really good story I would read a book.

 

[Shadowstar38]

Taking Transformers as something built on existing source material, the movie spends way to much damn time on the human characters instead of the autobots. And they break off fight scenes to give the US military a wank even though conventional weapons should do jack shit against alien robots.Taken as a movie on it's own, it has horrible actors, a dumb plot, and puts the big dumb action ahead of an actual script.

Now take the Avengers. The film itself has GREAT acting, funny moments, and a conhesive plot. The reason comic books fans rave so much about it is because they took the time to let you get to know these characters in their own seperate movies. This is a perfect transition from reading Hulk and Thor comics then seeing them team up in an Avenger comic. It's the perfect super hero movie.

The fact that you would compare it to a Bay film just leads me to believe there's no accounting for good tastes here.

 

[tobi the good boy]

Because unlike the transformers movie it didn't shoe horn in a horrendous romance that took up 2/3's the entire plot (There was that ones scene with black widow and hawk-eye for what? 5 minutes at most)

It focused on the aspects we came to see, you know... Super hero's kicking absolute ass. Unlike Transformers which was more about a little teenage shit dealing with long distance issues.

And they had a great supporting cast all round.

 

[DoPo]

Even for a non-comic-fan, someone who never read about ONE of these guys or saw one single cartoon, the issue is able to be entered. They put together individual tellings of each hero and, in fact, the MacGuffin that was so integral to the plot. You therefore got to see their backgrounds and lead-up to the point in which the movie now progresses with. In short, THEY TOLD A STORY and they did it pretty well. It was portrayed well, if sometimes humorously, and was entertaining.

Well, I went to see the movie with a friend of mine who didn't know who the superheroes were. She still didn't at the end of it. I wouldn't say they made a very good job explaining them.

That's because the individual stories were told in their own films. I'm sure if they spent extra time explaining them you would complain about them wasting time about it. I imagine it would be similar to watching only the 3rd Matrix movie and complaining about not having the characters explained properly.

And I'm sure whatever other thing with barely a hint of criticism I wrote, you would have ridiculed and dismissed me. So next time please, go easy on the baseless accusations there.

At any rate, FalloutJack said that even complete newbies wouldn't be lost. My, admittedly anecdotal, observation contradicts that. Oh, yeah, also I did no complaining whatsoever, just stated an observation. It's worth knowing the difference before calling me out for something I didn't do.